Level III AAP in all four core subjects - why not Level IV!?

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Anonymous wrote:Does FCPS give the file reviewers some kind of "red flags" to look for? Because these high WISC denials don't make sense at all-especially in light of some of the appeals that are "In" with really low scores.

There are some private psychologists who are known to ahhmmm... be exceedingly generous in scoring the WISC. I had heard third hand there were a few who were flagged. Take it as more than gossip, but less than actual knowledge. But be wary of a private psychologist who found every appeal kid you know had a high WISC. GMU is the safest bet.

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Anonymous wrote:We had NNAT 129, COGAT 135. GBRS 2F and 2O. Reached out to the school and they tell us that we won't be getting any level 3 services either. I am so bummed that the school has so much power to determine your GBRS and that will affect not only your Level 4 but also Level 3 services. We had WISC 131 and not sure that can help get some level 3 services? We kind of feel discriminated being a minority.

I am sorry to hear that. I would submit the WISC to AART as an support for Level III. Your child needs at least Level III services..

Thank you. She says they have finished screening for this year.

Submit a Level III referral the first week of school. They have 30 days to meet, discuss the kid, and make a decision.

Or possibly wait a month to give your child's teacher a better chance to know your kid.

But either way...you don't have to wait for their annual screening. You can refer your child for Level II or III whenever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My child was recommended for level III AAP in all four core subjects for third grade by the school (we never asked for it). What does this mean? Shouldn’t this be Level IV? Child was in pool automatically for Level IV, but didn’t get in. Appeal was unsuccessful. (NNAT 136, Cogat 118, WiISC 138, 2C and 2F from teacher). I am so cofused by this process.

My kid had a 119 WISC and is sailing through level IV. Go figure...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does FCPS give the file reviewers some kind of "red flags" to look for? Because these high WISC denials don't make sense at all-especially in light of some of the appeals that are "In" with really low scores.

There are some private psychologists who are known to ahhmmm... be exceedingly generous in scoring the WISC. I had heard third hand there were a few who were flagged. Take it as more than gossip, but less than actual knowledge. But be wary of a private psychologist who found every appeal kid you know had a high WISC. GMU is the safest bet.

I heard that some of the test prep places will have their own people do the WISC for kids that need them...

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Does FCPS give the file reviewers some kind of "red flags" to look for? Because these high WISC denials don't make sense at all-especially in light of some of the appeals that are "In" with really low scores.[/quote]

There are some private psychologists who are known to ahhmmm... be exceedingly generous in scoring the WISC. I had heard third hand there were a few who were flagged. Take it as more than gossip, but less than actual knowledge. But be wary of a private psychologist who found every appeal kid you know had a high WISC. GMU is the safest bet. [/quote]

I highly doubt that private psychologist will risk their license very generous with WISC scores. GMU done by young student.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Does FCPS give the file reviewers some kind of "red flags" to look for? Because these high WISC denials don't make sense at all-especially in light of some of the appeals that are "In" with really low scores.[/quote]

There are some private psychologists who are known to ahhmmm... be exceedingly generous in scoring the WISC. I had heard third hand there were a few who were flagged. Take it as more than gossip, but less than actual knowledge. But be wary of a private psychologist who found every appeal kid you know had a high WISC. GMU is the safest bet. [/quote]

I highly doubt that private psychologist will risk their license very generous with WISC scores. GMU done by young student. [/quote]

I don't think they are risking their license, but their reputation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does FCPS give the file reviewers some kind of "red flags" to look for? Because these high WISC denials don't make sense at all-especially in light of some of the appeals that are "In" with really low scores.

There are some private psychologists who are known to ahhmmm... be exceedingly generous in scoring the WISC. I had heard third hand there were a few who were flagged. Take it as more than gossip, but less than actual knowledge. But be wary of a private psychologist who found every appeal kid you know had a high WISC. GMU is the safest bet.

I heard that some of the test prep places will have their own people do the WISC for kids that need them...

We went to GMU. 138

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does FCPS give the file reviewers some kind of "red flags" to look for? Because these high WISC denials don't make sense at all-especially in light of some of the appeals that are "In" with really low scores.

There are some private psychologists who are known to ahhmmm... be exceedingly generous in scoring the WISC. I had heard third hand there were a few who were flagged. Take it as more than gossip, but less than actual knowledge. But be wary of a private psychologist who found every appeal kid you know had a high WISC. GMU is the safest bet.

We went to GMU. 138

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child was recommended for level III AAP in all four core subjects for third grade by the school (we never asked for it). What does this mean? Shouldn’t this be Level IV? Child was in pool automatically for Level IV, but didn’t get in. Appeal was unsuccessful. (NNAT 136, Cogat 118, WiISC 138, 2C and 2F from teacher). I am so cofused by this process.

My kid had a 119 WISC and is sailing through level IV. Go figure...

We must be surrounded by some kids who scored even higher. I have no doubt that my child would thrive and succeed in Level IV. Can acceptance scores be FOIA-d?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child was recommended for level III AAP in all four core subjects for third grade by the school (we never asked for it). What does this mean? Shouldn’t this be Level IV? Child was in pool automatically for Level IV, but didn’t get in. Appeal was unsuccessful. (NNAT 136, Cogat 118, WiISC 138, 2C and 2F from teacher). I am so cofused by this process.

My kid had a 119 WISC and is sailing through level IV. Go figure...

We must be surrounded by some kids who scored even higher. I have no doubt that my child would thrive and succeed in Level IV. Can acceptance scores be FOIA-d?

NP and I've wondered about this, too. I would be surprised if no one has ever FOIA'ed the scores, but maybe they haven't, or maybe FCPS somehow manages to deny the requests. I suspect if that data ever gets out, multiple lawsuits would swiftly follow.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does FCPS give the file reviewers some kind of "red flags" to look for? Because these high WISC denials don't make sense at all-especially in light of some of the appeals that are "In" with really low scores.

There are some private psychologists who are known to ahhmmm... be exceedingly generous in scoring the WISC. I had heard third hand there were a few who were flagged. Take it as more than gossip, but less than actual knowledge. But be wary of a private psychologist who found every appeal kid you know had a high WISC. GMU is the safest bet.

I'm a little leery of GMU, since they use students. Can you share which psychologists are too generous or others who are fair? I really want an accurate score. A false high isn't great, but I'm scared of a false low, too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does FCPS give the file reviewers some kind of "red flags" to look for? Because these high WISC denials don't make sense at all-especially in light of some of the appeals that are "In" with really low scores.

There are some private psychologists who are known to ahhmmm... be exceedingly generous in scoring the WISC. I had heard third hand there were a few who were flagged. Take it as more than gossip, but less than actual knowledge. But be wary of a private psychologist who found every appeal kid you know had a high WISC. GMU is the safest bet.

I'm a little leery of GMU, since they use students. Can you share which psychologists are too generous or others who are fair? I really want an accurate score. A false high isn't great, but I'm scared of a false low, too.

When I was in grad school I went to the clinic on campus for depression and ADHD counseling. I was seen by a Resident. I would imagine that the grad students are monitored by a licensed professional who is over seeing their training.