USNEWS accurate indicator - college readiness

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Their listing is a joke.

What a highly nuanced critique of their methodology you're providing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only good and accurate measurement on USNews ranking is the college readiness indicator.

It's actually a fairly useless measurement, because it just tells you the percentage of 12th grade students that took and passed AP/IB exams.

For most of us on this board, our kids would meet that standard regardless of what school they attend. I'm much more interested in knowing how those types of students perform in different MCPS high schools, and this measurement gives you zero insight on that.

+1 This indicator is a reflection of SES.
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/articles/rankings-faq

College readiness (30% of the ranking): The percentage of 12th graders from the class of 2016-2017 who took at least one AP or IB exam during high school and the percentage of 12th graders who passed at least one AP or IB exam in high school. Passing is weighted three times more than taking.

It also fosters harmful stereotypes about the value of segregated schools.

Damn those successful parents fostering a college track atmosphere. Where are the teen moms and illiterate juniors and seniors to demonstrate what the real world is like! Don’t fear, we will send you some from silver spring

[Anonymous]

US NEWS is lazy using AP/IB rates as "college readiness". It is, but graduating from high school = college readiness, heading to most colleges.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only good and accurate measurement on USNews ranking is the college readiness indicator.

It's actually a fairly useless measurement, because it just tells you the percentage of 12th grade students that took and passed AP/IB exams.

For most of us on this board, our kids would meet that standard regardless of what school they attend. I'm much more interested in knowing how those types of students perform in different MCPS high schools, and this measurement gives you zero insight on that.

+1 This indicator is a reflection of SES.
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/articles/rankings-faq

College readiness (30% of the ranking): The percentage of 12th graders from the class of 2016-2017 who took at least one AP or IB exam during high school and the percentage of 12th graders who passed at least one AP or IB exam in high school. Passing is weighted three times more than taking.

It also fosters harmful stereotypes about the value of segregated schools.

I think the PPP nailed it. My kids would do the same at any of these schools so their statistic isn't especially meaningful.

[Anonymous]

The strongest indicator of college readiness would be college admissions which is published by Bethesda magazine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The strongest indicator of college readiness would be college admissions which is published by Bethesda magazine.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-magazine/september-october-2018/where-bethesda-area-high-school-grads-applied-to-college/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The strongest indicator of college readiness would be college admissions which is published by Bethesda magazine.

Not really as those are self reported admitted. The cheating scandal shows that admitted isn’t the same as ready even if you could trust the data. Under that guise of your logic why not just rank the schools by graduation rates?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The strongest indicator of college readiness would be college admissions which is published by Bethesda magazine.

Not really as those are self reported admitted. The cheating scandal shows that admitted isn’t the same as ready even if you could trust the data. Under that guise of your logic why not just rank the schools by graduation rates?

I'm sorry if this doesn't support the narrative you'd like but it is the best indicator of college readiness we have.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The strongest indicator of college readiness would be college admissions which is published by Bethesda magazine.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-magazine/september-october-2018/where-bethesda-area-high-school-grads-applied-to-college/

Hadn't seen this before. This is really great. Thx!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The strongest indicator of college readiness would be college admissions which is published by Bethesda magazine.

Not really as those are self reported admitted. The cheating scandal shows that admitted isn’t the same as ready even if you could trust the data. Under that guise of your logic why not just rank the schools by graduation rates?

I'm sorry if this doesn't support the narrative you'd like but it is the best indicator of college readiness we have.

Better than data on pass rates for college level (AP and IB) work? And better than considering the share of students in the school capable of doing this college level work. No, you're wrong. Looking at Bethesda magazine's list of college admissions tells you very little about a school as a whole. And legacies, URMs, athletes skew that data anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:US NEWS is lazy using AP/IB rates as "college readiness". It is, but graduating from high school = college readiness, heading to most colleges.

They include that metric in the overall ranking, plus the share of students taking college level (AP/IB) coursework.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The strongest indicator of college readiness would be college admissions which is published by Bethesda magazine.

Not really as those are self reported admitted. The cheating scandal shows that admitted isn’t the same as ready even if you could trust the data. Under that guise of your logic why not just rank the schools by graduation rates?

I'm sorry if this doesn't support the narrative you'd like but it is the best indicator of college readiness we have.

I would bet my Porsche you aren’t smart enough to make that proclamation. I seriously doubt you even went to college and or truly understand what the differences between descriptive statistics and inferential statistics are. Self reported data and test sores aren’t really compatible. Hell even if it could be trusted, one can’t ascertain if the admitted is an illiterate football player or an academic scholar. I guess both could be counted as various forms of college ready but that isn’t what USNEWS is talking about. They are trying to measure base level academic standards for incoming freshmen.

Even with you list, different colleges have different standards. Lots of kids are Community College ready but not everyone is ready to be a Mudder

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The strongest indicator of college readiness would be college admissions which is published by Bethesda magazine.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-magazine/september-october-2018/where-bethesda-area-high-school-grads-applied-to-college/

Hadn't seen this before. This is really great. Thx!

It lines up perfectly with Blair accounting for roughly 30% of the county's NMSF too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The strongest indicator of college readiness would be college admissions which is published by Bethesda magazine.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-magazine/september-october-2018/where-bethesda-area-high-school-grads-applied-to-college/

Hadn't seen this before. This is really great. Thx!

It lines up perfectly with Blair accounting for roughly 30% of the county's NMSF too.

You are clearly the same poster all three times, your style gives you away.

I can’t tell if you’re a deranged mom or immature student

[Anonymous]

Smart when it counts: act, sat, AP, IB tests, final exams (if MCPS ever brings those back).

Waste of time: 3 MAPS a year, 1 PARCC a year (multiple days of course)

Love or learning and teaching to potential. What a great school system.