Non-Profit bails out domestic abuser, he promptly beats wife to death

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bleeding hearts only care about their feel good moment . Fiddling criminals won’t turn out well but liberals have made criminals into a darling group

I have a co-worker who has told me that she doesn't believe in incarceration, only in rehabilitation. She is active in a non-profit regarding this. I REALLY wanted to tell her that my kidnapper/rapist recently applied for parole and I'm terrified of him coming after me when he gets out. I really wanted to ask her if she would feel that way if she was in my position. I did not though, I kept quite and just listened to her talk about mass incarceration and using inmates as slave labor, etc.

get a gun and a carry permit and be well trained

PP here, done and done. I will likely sell my house and move when he's released given the court sent him a notice giving him my home address and my new last name (from marriage), because, you know, they need him to know exactly who he is not allowed to contact and what address to avoid for the protective order that they took it upon themselves to file for me without letting me know. I have two young children to fear for also. FFS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This really does outline the problem with cash bail in general. If he had the money, he would have been out on bail regardless of this non-profit.

Pre-trail jail should be based on a risk assessment, not on the ability to pay or not.

+100

+1000000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bleeding hearts only care about their feel good moment . Fiddling criminals won’t turn out well but liberals have made criminals into a darling group

I have a co-worker who has told me that she doesn't believe in incarceration, only in rehabilitation. She is active in a non-profit regarding this. I REALLY wanted to tell her that my kidnapper/rapist recently applied for parole and I'm terrified of him coming after me when he gets out. I really wanted to ask her if she would feel that way if she was in my position. I did not though, I kept quite and just listened to her talk about mass incarceration and using inmates as slave labor, etc.

get a gun and a carry permit and be well trained

PP here, done and done. I will likely sell my house and move when he's released given the court sent him a notice giving him my home address and my new last name (from marriage), because, you know, they need him to know exactly who he is not allowed to contact and what address to avoid for the protective order that they took it upon themselves to file for me without letting me know. I have two young children to fear for also. FFS.

wow that’s horrible . Best of luck.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bleeding hearts only care about their feel good moment . Fiddling criminals won’t turn out well but liberals have made criminals into a darling group

I have a co-worker who has told me that she doesn't believe in incarceration, only in rehabilitation. She is active in a non-profit regarding this. I REALLY wanted to tell her that my kidnapper/rapist recently applied for parole and I'm terrified of him coming after me when he gets out. I really wanted to ask her if she would feel that way if she was in my position. I did not though, I kept quite and just listened to her talk about mass incarceration and using inmates as slave labor, etc.

I'm far left but I don't believe in prison abolition precisely because I have a friend who survived a similar crime. I'm sorry that happened to you, pp. Obviously you have no obligation to share your story with your coworker, but I think stories like yours can push people to have a more nuanced view of the issue. I definitely think there are too many people in prison in the US but I also don't think we should have to live in communities with convicted rapists and murders. I find that people who grew up in violent communities tend to agree with that point, and people who have lived lives sheltered from violence are cool with letting everyone out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bleeding hearts only care about their feel good moment . Fiddling criminals won’t turn out well but liberals have made criminals into a darling group

I have a co-worker who has told me that she doesn't believe in incarceration, only in rehabilitation. She is active in a non-profit regarding this. I REALLY wanted to tell her that my kidnapper/rapist recently applied for parole and I'm terrified of him coming after me when he gets out. I really wanted to ask her if she would feel that way if she was in my position. I did not though, I kept quite and just listened to her talk about mass incarceration and using inmates as slave labor, etc.

I'm far left but I don't believe in prison abolition precisely because I have a friend who survived a similar crime. I'm sorry that happened to you, pp. Obviously you have no obligation to share your story with your coworker, but I think stories like yours can push people to have a more nuanced view of the issue. I definitely think there are too many people in prison in the US but I also don't think we should have to live in communities with convicted rapists and murders. I find that people who grew up in violent communities tend to agree with that point, and people who have lived lives sheltered from violence are cool with letting everyone out.

I'm pretty liberal and share this. Violent crime should be punished. Wanting a dignified response to undignified behavior doesn't mean we're stupid, it means that as human beings who supposedly believe they were created after the image of God, we want to be the best we can, including criminals. That doesn't mean violent criminals shouldn't pay for their crimes, either. Slave labor? I'm not ethically on board with that. Am I going to lose tears that a child rapist is forced into that? No. But, ethically, I think if everything we run is above reproach, then we don't have issues like people wanting to completely abolish a system because it's structured incorrectly and has hurt many innocents.

[Anonymous]

I’m pretty liberal and I am appalled.

It seems like common sense that someone accused of a violent crime shouldn’t be able to get bail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bleeding hearts only care about their feel good moment . Fiddling criminals won’t turn out well but liberals have made criminals into a darling group

way to narrow down a complex subject to dumb-assery at it's finest

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bleeding hearts only care about their feel good moment . Fiddling criminals won’t turn out well but liberals have made criminals into a darling group

I have a co-worker who has told me that she doesn't believe in incarceration, only in rehabilitation. She is active in a non-profit regarding this. I REALLY wanted to tell her that my kidnapper/rapist recently applied for parole and I'm terrified of him coming after me when he gets out. I really wanted to ask her if she would feel that way if she was in my position. I did not though, I kept quite and just listened to her talk about mass incarceration and using inmates as slave labor, etc.

Sorry you were a victim of a horrible crime. But please understand that the 2 things are not mutually exclusive. We have an unfair justice system and you have a right to be afraid for our safety. Reforming our criminal justice system is best for everyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bleeding hearts only care about their feel good moment . Fiddling criminals won’t turn out well but liberals have made criminals into a darling group

I have a co-worker who has told me that she doesn't believe in incarceration, only in rehabilitation. She is active in a non-profit regarding this. I REALLY wanted to tell her that my kidnapper/rapist recently applied for parole and I'm terrified of him coming after me when he gets out. I really wanted to ask her if she would feel that way if she was in my position. I did not though, I kept quite and just listened to her talk about mass incarceration and using inmates as slave labor, etc.

I'm far left but I don't believe in prison abolition precisely because I have a friend who survived a similar crime. I'm sorry that happened to you, pp. Obviously you have no obligation to share your story with your coworker, but I think stories like yours can push people to have a more nuanced view of the issue. I definitely think there are too many people in prison in the US but I also don't think we should have to live in communities with convicted rapists and murders. I find that people who grew up in violent communities tend to agree with that point, and people who have lived lives sheltered from violence are cool with letting everyone out.

I'm pretty liberal and share this. Violent crime should be punished. Wanting a dignified response to undignified behavior doesn't mean we're stupid, it means that as human beings who supposedly believe they were created after the image of God, we want to be the best we can, including criminals. That doesn't mean violent criminals shouldn't pay for their crimes, either. Slave labor? I'm not ethically on board with that. Am I going to lose tears that a child rapist is forced into that? No. But, ethically, I think if everything we run is above reproach, then we don't have issues like people wanting to completely abolish a system because it's structured incorrectly and has hurt many innocents.

This

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bleeding hearts only care about their feel good moment . Fiddling criminals won’t turn out well but liberals have made criminals into a darling group

I have a co-worker who has told me that she doesn't believe in incarceration, only in rehabilitation. She is active in a non-profit regarding this. I REALLY wanted to tell her that my kidnapper/rapist recently applied for parole and I'm terrified of him coming after me when he gets out. I really wanted to ask her if she would feel that way if she was in my position. I did not though, I kept quite and just listened to her talk about mass incarceration and using inmates as slave labor, etc.

Sorry you were a victim of a horrible crime. But please understand that the 2 things are not mutually exclusive. We have an unfair justice system and you have a right to be afraid for our safety. Reforming our criminal justice system is best for everyone.

your restorative justice nonsense leaves people free to hurt other people. A guy in NY committed a mass shooting in a nightclub Christmas Day was out on bail for attempted murder at the time. There was another mass shooting more recently in aurora where the guy kept getting slaps in the wrist for his violent crimes and then was free to commit mass murder. Same thing for parkland shooting. He should have had a record but kept getting restorative justice so he was free to buy a gun to commit mass murder with

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No one could have predicted this tragedy my ass

+1. Seems to have been pretty predictable to me.

This is one of the reasons domestic violence simply goes unreported. The victim knows that the restraining order is just a piece of paper. Anything the victim does just escalates the retaliation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bleeding hearts only care about their feel good moment . Fiddling criminals won’t turn out well but liberals have made criminals into a darling group

I have a co-worker who has told me that she doesn't believe in incarceration, only in rehabilitation. She is active in a non-profit regarding this. I REALLY wanted to tell her that my kidnapper/rapist recently applied for parole and I'm terrified of him coming after me when he gets out. I really wanted to ask her if she would feel that way if she was in my position. I did not though, I kept quite and just listened to her talk about mass incarceration and using inmates as slave labor, etc.

get a gun and a carry permit and be well trained

PP here, done and done. I will likely sell my house and move when he's released given the court sent him a notice giving him my home address and my new last name (from marriage), because, you know, they need him to know exactly who he is not allowed to contact and what address to avoid for the protective order that they took it upon themselves to file for me without letting me know. I have two young children to fear for also. FFS.

Ugh I’m so sorry. Get a big dog too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bleeding hearts only care about their feel good moment . Fiddling criminals won’t turn out well but liberals have made criminals into a darling group

I have a co-worker who has told me that she doesn't believe in incarceration, only in rehabilitation. She is active in a non-profit regarding this. I REALLY wanted to tell her that my kidnapper/rapist recently applied for parole and I'm terrified of him coming after me when he gets out. I really wanted to ask her if she would feel that way if she was in my position. I did not though, I kept quite and just listened to her talk about mass incarceration and using inmates as slave labor, etc.

I know this will sound callous, and for that I apologize. But I have to wonder what is the evidence on people released form prison (I do NOT mean situations like the OP, I mean people who have been convicted and served time) "going after" their past victims (as well as correlations with specific aspects of the original crime). This is a common concern expressed by victims in connection with parole but from a risk assessment perspective I have to wonder to what extent it is an objective concern. Yoko fears Chapman being out, but seriously, the odds are probably infinitesimally small.

Again, I apologize for what may sound harsh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I understand the non-profit's cause, but maybe they should ONLY help non-violent offenders.

Then that wouldn't stop mass incarceration.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You'd think common sense would dictate that you don't bail out people with domestic violence charges - regardless of severity.

you don’t get how crazy liberals are. SJWs won’t vote for Harris because she prosecuted POC for even crimes like domestic violence . They are crazy

Stop! I'm very liberal, and Harris is my top choice candidate right now. And I'm not the only one.

Liberals have differences of opinions. So do conservatives.