New neighbors moved in & our dogs hate each other, ugh!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can you expedite building the new fence? Get an estimate and build it the next day. If they can't see each other, they probably won't bark as much, and once they start, at least you'll know there won't be an injuries.

Crating is probably a good option once the barking starts.

It's hard to get someone to come build a fence the next day.

Our dog likes our neighbors dogs generally, but he can tell even through wood fences that they are in the yard.

[Anonymous]

Dog goes in the crate when you have a call. Problem solved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dog goes in the crate when you have a call. Problem solved.

+1

This is entirely on you, OP. Do not bug your neighbors with this crap.

[Anonymous]

Are the neighbors renters? And it sounds like you're homeowners since you're going to install a fence. If so, more leverage. Talk to the owner of that house and tell them their renter's dog is terrible and causing trouble. Or try the HOA if you have one.

You were there first. Why should your dog be penalized because of the new dog?

I'd be beyond pissed if my dogs couldn't enjoy our fenced in back yard. The entire reason why we fenced it in was for them.

I bet a privacy fence will work since you said that your dog doesn't bark from inside the house when he sees the other dog. It's going to be ugly af, though. I would not want to buy a house that had just one side with a wooden privacy fence. Probably will need to remove it prior to selling if that's something you're thinking about in the future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you ask the neighbor if you can try something to get the dogs to like each other. Maybe go for a walk together a few times?

I have a dog who can be a jerk and my friend got a dog also a jerk. ( we both also have 2 non jerk dogs) so we just kept walking and kept them on short leashes, gradually they started ignoring each other. Now they can walk next to each other and there is no growling or snarling.
Might be worth a try.

We've tried this and letting them meet in a neutral area, but no dice. As soon as they see each other the growling starts. When they get close, lunging starts. We have a fenced in dog park in our neighborhood and we tried letting them meet there again. We both kept them on short leashes but as soon as they were close enough, they were lunging and trying to bite each other. I 100% believe that these two would fight to the death.

I doubt she'd be up for walks together as when she walks her dog, she has one kid in a stroller and one kid on a balance bike.

It's very frustrating that they hate each other. And not something I've dealt with before.

Keeping them on a short leash actually increases aggressive behavior with dogs. It’s better to have them off leash That’s one of the reasons that you’re supposed to take a dog off leash in the little fenced area right before you enter the dog park. I would try it again. However both dogs unleashed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you ask the neighbor if you can try something to get the dogs to like each other. Maybe go for a walk together a few times?

I have a dog who can be a jerk and my friend got a dog also a jerk. ( we both also have 2 non jerk dogs) so we just kept walking and kept them on short leashes, gradually they started ignoring each other. Now they can walk next to each other and there is no growling or snarling.
Might be worth a try.

We've tried this and letting them meet in a neutral area, but no dice. As soon as they see each other the growling starts. When they get close, lunging starts. We have a fenced in dog park in our neighborhood and we tried letting them meet there again. We both kept them on short leashes but as soon as they were close enough, they were lunging and trying to bite each other. I 100% believe that these two would fight to the death.

I doubt she'd be up for walks together as when she walks her dog, she has one kid in a stroller and one kid on a balance bike.

It's very frustrating that they hate each other. And not something I've dealt with before.

Keeping them on a short leash actually increases aggressive behavior with dogs. It’s better to have them off leash That’s one of the reasons that you’re supposed to take a dog off leash in the little fenced area right before you enter the dog park. I would try it again. However both dogs unleashed.

I thought the little fenced area before you walk into the dog park was designed to be empty and just there are a second barrier in case an unleashed dog pushes past someone and escapes from the dog park. Especially if there could be kids nearby.

[Anonymous]

Why would they take their dog in when you have a conference call so that your dog can be out at that time?? You are the one that doesn't want the noise, you keep your dog in. What a stupid idea!

[Anonymous]

PPs are right. You "castrated" your dog in his own area where he ruled by leashing him. He was to be the alpha to other dog who is new.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you ask the neighbor if you can try something to get the dogs to like each other. Maybe go for a walk together a few times?

I have a dog who can be a jerk and my friend got a dog also a jerk. ( we both also have 2 non jerk dogs) so we just kept walking and kept them on short leashes, gradually they started ignoring each other. Now they can walk next to each other and there is no growling or snarling.
Might be worth a try.

We've tried this and letting them meet in a neutral area, but no dice. As soon as they see each other the growling starts. When they get close, lunging starts. We have a fenced in dog park in our neighborhood and we tried letting them meet there again. We both kept them on short leashes but as soon as they were close enough, they were lunging and trying to bite each other. I 100% believe that these two would fight to the death.

I doubt she'd be up for walks together as when she walks her dog, she has one kid in a stroller and one kid on a balance bike.

It's very frustrating that they hate each other. And not something I've dealt with before.

Keeping them on a short leash actually increases aggressive behavior with dogs. It’s better to have them off leash That’s one of the reasons that you’re supposed to take a dog off leash in the little fenced area right before you enter the dog park. I would try it again. However both dogs unleashed.

I thought the little fenced area before you walk into the dog park was designed to be empty and just there are a second barrier in case an unleashed dog pushes past someone and escapes from the dog park. Especially if there could be kids nearby.

No, it is the area where we take dogs off leash. Why do you think as you walk into that area that all the other dogs gather there to evaluate the newcomer??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you ask the neighbor if you can try something to get the dogs to like each other. Maybe go for a walk together a few times?

I have a dog who can be a jerk and my friend got a dog also a jerk. ( we both also have 2 non jerk dogs) so we just kept walking and kept them on short leashes, gradually they started ignoring each other. Now they can walk next to each other and there is no growling or snarling.
Might be worth a try.

We've tried this and letting them meet in a neutral area, but no dice. As soon as they see each other the growling starts. When they get close, lunging starts. We have a fenced in dog park in our neighborhood and we tried letting them meet there again. We both kept them on short leashes but as soon as they were close enough, they were lunging and trying to bite each other. I 100% believe that these two would fight to the death.

I doubt she'd be up for walks together as when she walks her dog, she has one kid in a stroller and one kid on a balance bike.

It's very frustrating that they hate each other. And not something I've dealt with before.

Keeping them on a short leash actually increases aggressive behavior with dogs. It’s better to have them off leash That’s one of the reasons that you’re supposed to take a dog off leash in the little fenced area right before you enter the dog park. I would try it again. However both dogs unleashed.

I thought the little fenced area before you walk into the dog park was designed to be empty and just there are a second barrier in case an unleashed dog pushes past someone and escapes from the dog park. Especially if there could be kids nearby.

No, it is the area where we take dogs off leash. Why do you think as you walk into that area that all the other dogs gather there to evaluate the newcomer??

Yes, this is why all dog lots have signs that say no leashes dogs inside the main area. It makes your dog be automatically seen as less than by the others and easily dominated.

I know it’s scary but it’s best to let them off leash together.

[Anonymous]

Yes - definitely do the solid fence. Maybe add some kind of footer to it even - meaning something buried along the fence line (hard plastic?) so they can’t really dig and smell each other even. Make it a tall fence. Plant some fragrant trees along the fence line too - cedar?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you ask the neighbor if you can try something to get the dogs to like each other. Maybe go for a walk together a few times?

I have a dog who can be a jerk and my friend got a dog also a jerk. ( we both also have 2 non jerk dogs) so we just kept walking and kept them on short leashes, gradually they started ignoring each other. Now they can walk next to each other and there is no growling or snarling.
Might be worth a try.

We've tried this and letting them meet in a neutral area, but no dice. As soon as they see each other the growling starts. When they get close, lunging starts. We have a fenced in dog park in our neighborhood and we tried letting them meet there again. We both kept them on short leashes but as soon as they were close enough, they were lunging and trying to bite each other. I 100% believe that these two would fight to the death.

I doubt she'd be up for walks together as when she walks her dog, she has one kid in a stroller and one kid on a balance bike.

It's very frustrating that they hate each other. And not something I've dealt with before.

You could try night time walks together - no kids. Start ofc each walk by giving each dog a giant pile of treats first. Giant pile. They’ll get it.
Also - when they start growling and snarling tell them to quit it! Whose in charge here anyway?
I’d still get the fence built, but do the walks and the tests.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are the neighbors renters? And it sounds like you're homeowners since you're going to install a fence. If so, more leverage. Talk to the owner of that house and tell them their renter's dog is terrible and causing trouble. Or try the HOA if you have one.

You were there first. Why should your dog be penalized because of the new dog?

I'd be beyond pissed if my dogs couldn't enjoy our fenced in back yard. The entire reason why we fenced it in was for them.

I bet a privacy fence will work since you said that your dog doesn't bark from inside the house when he sees the other dog. It's going to be ugly af, though. I would not want to buy a house that had just one side with a wooden privacy fence. Probably will need to remove it prior to selling if that's something you're thinking about in the future.

You’re terrible. Even if they are renters (the horrors! People who pay for housing but don’t own it!) her dog is not terrible and it doesn’t matter ‘who was there first’.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you ask the neighbor if you can try something to get the dogs to like each other. Maybe go for a walk together a few times?

I have a dog who can be a jerk and my friend got a dog also a jerk. ( we both also have 2 non jerk dogs) so we just kept walking and kept them on short leashes, gradually they started ignoring each other. Now they can walk next to each other and there is no growling or snarling.
Might be worth a try.

We've tried this and letting them meet in a neutral area, but no dice. As soon as they see each other the growling starts. When they get close, lunging starts. We have a fenced in dog park in our neighborhood and we tried letting them meet there again. We both kept them on short leashes but as soon as they were close enough, they were lunging and trying to bite each other. I 100% believe that these two would fight to the death.

I doubt she'd be up for walks together as when she walks her dog, she has one kid in a stroller and one kid on a balance bike.

It's very frustrating that they hate each other. And not something I've dealt with before.

Keeping them on a short leash actually increases aggressive behavior with dogs. It’s better to have them off leash That’s one of the reasons that you’re supposed to take a dog off leash in the little fenced area right before you enter the dog park. I would try it again. However both dogs unleashed.

Yeah - I listened to an idiot once who insisted this to me and so our unleashed dogs proceeded to run all over the place killing each other.
It was not fun and it wasn’t easy to get them in control again.
You don’t let two dogs who currently hate each other off leash together. Do not do that.

[Anonymous]

If it's because they're both Alpha males, even the best trainer will struggle to get one to fall in line behind the other.

Darn pack mentality.