Does it bother anyone that primary.com seems to have lined up their child models from dark to light?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:oh brother. I'm just glad they represented a lot of different kids. Get over yourself OP.

And they always have a very diverse group of models. Always.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It bugs me bc if you are the “dark kid” on the end you’d feel self consciously about it. And if you are a little girl of color looking at that it would make you feel like yup I’m the dark one The ad is neutral but society is not neutral so it reinforces cultural biases.

Just out of curiosity...are you Caucasian?

[Anonymous]

I'm white, my son his biracial and my partner is black. Any time we take family photo, my son is usually in the middle so we are in order of color. No, it doesn't bother me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It bugs me bc if you are the “dark kid” on the end you’d feel self consciously about it. And if you are a little girl of color looking at that it would make you feel like yup I’m the dark one The ad is neutral but society is not neutral so it reinforces cultural biases.

I'm not following you. All five kids look different from each other. The whole point is that hopefully many different colors of children could look at that landing page and see one child they identify with. They are trying to sell clothes to all the colors, not just one.

Yes but they lined them up by color - so the darkest kid is on the end. They could make the point as easily by not doing this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm white, my son his biracial and my partner is black. Any time we take family photo, my son is usually in the middle so we are in order of color. No, it doesn't bother me.

I do not think that is the same thing at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It bugs me bc if you are the “dark kid” on the end you’d feel self consciously about it. And if you are a little girl of color looking at that it would make you feel like yup I’m the dark one The ad is neutral but society is not neutral so it reinforces cultural biases.

I'm not following you. All five kids look different from each other. The whole point is that hopefully many different colors of children could look at that landing page and see one child they identify with. They are trying to sell clothes to all the colors, not just one.

Yes but they lined them up by color - so the darkest kid is on the end. They could make the point as easily by not doing this.

Ok. I just don't understand why having the darkest kid on the end is a PROBLEM. Yes, that's what it looks like they did in the photo. Yes, they could do it another way. But why is the way they did it a problem? I'm honestly confused. And yes I am white so I am probably coming at this with bias, I realize that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It bugs me bc if you are the “dark kid” on the end you’d feel self consciously about it. And if you are a little girl of color looking at that it would make you feel like yup I’m the dark one The ad is neutral but society is not neutral so it reinforces cultural biases.

I'm not following you. All five kids look different from each other. The whole point is that hopefully many different colors of children could look at that landing page and see one child they identify with. They are trying to sell clothes to all the colors, not just one.

Yes but they lined them up by color - so the darkest kid is on the end. They could make the point as easily by not doing this.

Ok. I just don't understand why having the darkest kid on the end is a PROBLEM. Yes, that's what it looks like they did in the photo. Yes, they could do it another way. But why is the way they did it a problem? I'm honestly confused. And yes I am white so I am probably coming at this with bias, I realize that.

Ok, fine, imagine that your child's teacher was like - "hey everybody! We are all different! Let's line up by darkest to lightest!" Would that be ok? This is no different.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It bugs me bc if you are the “dark kid” on the end you’d feel self consciously about it. And if you are a little girl of color looking at that it would make you feel like yup I’m the dark one The ad is neutral but society is not neutral so it reinforces cultural biases.

I'm not following you. All five kids look different from each other. The whole point is that hopefully many different colors of children could look at that landing page and see one child they identify with. They are trying to sell clothes to all the colors, not just one.

Yes but they lined them up by color - so the darkest kid is on the end. They could make the point as easily by not doing this.

So... isn't the lightest kid on the other end?

I'm more bothered that these kids in the middle's cute faces are covered in text!

Looking at their images all over the front page, I like the mix of kids. Even kids with glasses, which this bespectacled lady appreciates. Wondering if they also represent kids w/ disabilities, hope so!

[Anonymous]

They do- they recently had a model with a limb difference.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It bugs me bc if you are the “dark kid” on the end you’d feel self consciously about it. And if you are a little girl of color looking at that it would make you feel like yup I’m the dark one The ad is neutral but society is not neutral so it reinforces cultural biases.

I'm not following you. All five kids look different from each other. The whole point is that hopefully many different colors of children could look at that landing page and see one child they identify with. They are trying to sell clothes to all the colors, not just one.

Yes but they lined them up by color - so the darkest kid is on the end. They could make the point as easily by not doing this.

I have no opinion as to whether it’s on purpose or not. But your point that one dark it’s on the end that means the lightest kid is on the other end so, what’s the problem? Is standing on the end, or beginning, a bad thing? Kind of like when they line people up tallest to shortest, being the tallest or being the shortest is neither a bad thing or good thing. It just is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It bugs me bc if you are the “dark kid” on the end you’d feel self consciously about it. And if you are a little girl of color looking at that it would make you feel like yup I’m the dark one The ad is neutral but society is not neutral so it reinforces cultural biases.

I'm not following you. All five kids look different from each other. The whole point is that hopefully many different colors of children could look at that landing page and see one child they identify with. They are trying to sell clothes to all the colors, not just one.

Yes but they lined them up by color - so the darkest kid is on the end. They could make the point as easily by not doing this.

Ok. I just don't understand why having the darkest kid on the end is a PROBLEM. Yes, that's what it looks like they did in the photo. Yes, they could do it another way. But why is the way they did it a problem? I'm honestly confused. And yes I am white so I am probably coming at this with bias, I realize that.

Ok, fine, imagine that your child's teacher was like - "hey everybody! We are all different! Let's line up by darkest to lightest!" Would that be ok? This is no different.

No I don't think I'd like that. But this is a website trying to sell clothes, not any of these kid's teachers. I think that distinction matters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It bugs me bc if you are the “dark kid” on the end you’d feel self consciously about it. And if you are a little girl of color looking at that it would make you feel like yup I’m the dark one The ad is neutral but society is not neutral so it reinforces cultural biases.

I'm not following you. All five kids look different from each other. The whole point is that hopefully many different colors of children could look at that landing page and see one child they identify with. They are trying to sell clothes to all the colors, not just one.

Yes but they lined them up by color - so the darkest kid is on the end. They could make the point as easily by not doing this.

I have no opinion as to whether it’s on purpose or not. But your point that one dark it’s on the end that means the lightest kid is on the other end so, what’s the problem? Is standing on the end, or beginning, a bad thing? Kind of like when they line people up tallest to shortest, being the tallest or being the shortest is neither a bad thing or good thing. It just is.

When there is a pre-existing social bias it is a bad thing. That is why teachers do not line up kids by height!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was expecting to see 10 kids or something. It's 5 kids. It could be coincidental. I wouldn't give it a second thought. Look at the other photos below.. they have plenty of diverse kids not lined up by color.

This.
—AA mom

[Anonymous]

They sell a rainbow of clothes to a rainbow of children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It bugs me bc if you are the “dark kid” on the end you’d feel self consciously about it. And if you are a little girl of color looking at that it would make you feel like yup I’m the dark one The ad is neutral but society is not neutral so it reinforces cultural biases.

I'm not following you. All five kids look different from each other. The whole point is that hopefully many different colors of children could look at that landing page and see one child they identify with. They are trying to sell clothes to all the colors, not just one.

Yes but they lined them up by color - so the darkest kid is on the end. They could make the point as easily by not doing this.

I have no opinion as to whether it’s on purpose or not. But your point that one dark it’s on the end that means the lightest kid is on the other end so, what’s the problem? Is standing on the end, or beginning, a bad thing? Kind of like when they line people up tallest to shortest, being the tallest or being the shortest is neither a bad thing or good thing. It just is.

When there is a pre-existing social bias it is a bad thing. That is why teachers do not line up kids by height!

....But they do? Often?