My kid got rejected with 99th percentile Cogat

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is half Asian and has an Asian name so I don’t know how much or if that affected things in any way. She had a good NNAT but not super high Cogat. She is EXTREMELY creative, and thinks very fluidly, and her teachers notice this. I think this year maybe those kind of things were given greater weight.

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Did she get in??

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was rejected a couple years ago with high stats, so I feel for all of you. DC ended up getting in on appeal from just a parent letter and new work samples. The AART thought that the most important thing was to appeal with something, just to get a fresh pair of eyes looking at the application packet.

Appeal, explain clearly in your letter why your child needs to be in AAP to have his or her educational needs met, and add a few samples to illustrate your point. Your kids will probably get in on appeal.

Do you think it is worth mentioning that this kid is smarter than my older child who is currently thriving in aap?

The new person looking at the file will see everything that was previously submitted?

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you, PP! Do you think a WISC is even helpful when the student already has a high CogAT score?

I don't know. It shouldn't tell the committee anything about a child that they didn't already know. I would still get and include it if the money is trivial and the scores are high. Otherwise, what I did was talked about the experiential learning style in AAP and why my child needed that environment, examples of how my child would have liked to dive deeper into specific subjects but how AAP would facilitate that, examples of social awkwardness and how my child would fit in better in AAP, and examples of academic extracurriculars that my child would thrive in that were offered at the center and not the base school.

For work samples, I looked for creative logic problems and had my child write up solutions. If you didn't already submit the parent questionnaire form, fill that out and submit it with your appeal as well.

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Do you think it is worth mentioning that this kid is smarter than my older child who is currently thriving in aap?

The new person looking at the file will see everything that was previously submitted?

Yes, they will see all information, old and new. I wouldn’t compare children. Just focus on articulating why your child’s needs cannot be met in a gen ed classroom.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was rejected a couple years ago with high stats, so I feel for all of you. DC ended up getting in on appeal from just a parent letter and new work samples. The AART thought that the most important thing was to appeal with something, just to get a fresh pair of eyes looking at the application packet.

Appeal, explain clearly in your letter why your child needs to be in AAP to have his or her educational needs met, and add a few samples to illustrate your point. Your kids will probably get in on appeal.

Do you think it is worth mentioning that this kid is smarter than my older child who is currently thriving in aap?

The new person looking at the file will see everything that was previously submitted?

Yes to both. I would not only describe ways that your younger child is smarter than your older AAP child, but I would also talk about things your older child has done in AAP and why your younger child would thrive with the same opportunities, projects, and environment. The appeals committee will see the entire file, with all of the old stuff as well as your newly submitted materials.

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Genuinely curious who is on this committee?

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Does the file the appeal committee people see have some kind of reason on it from the first round about why the child was not admitted initially?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes Asian and rejected. High scores and very good GBRS. Welcome to an early reality check. Thank you, Harvard and FCPS.

I’m not trying to cause drama. I’m just trying to understand why my kid didn’t get in. I know I have read that FCPS was trying to get more URM in so that means someone is losing their spot. The Asians would get hurt by this. Just wondering if that is what happened to my kid.

Stop spreading nonsense! There is no cap on AAP admits, so even if they let more URM's in, that does NOT mean someone else loses their spot. Asians are not getting hurt by this.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes Asian and rejected. High scores and very good GBRS. Welcome to an early reality check. Thank you, Harvard and FCPS.

I’m not trying to cause drama. I’m just trying to understand why my kid didn’t get in. I know I have read that FCPS was trying to get more URM in so that means someone is losing their spot. The Asians would get hurt by this. Just wondering if that is what happened to my kid.

Stop spreading nonsense! There is no cap on AAP admits, so even if they let more URM's in, that does NOT mean someone else loses their spot. Asians are not getting hurt by this.

Pp here. It was an innocent question. I knew there was a lot of talk about TJ accepting more URMs. TJ has a limited number of students unlike AAP.

I plan to appeal. Hopefully my kid gets in on appeal.

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NP. DD is not Asian and did not get in. Vienna. Similar scores and we submitted work samples that included writing about math, writing a persuasive essay and art. I’m not appealing. Our base school is good and we’ve been happy with it for our older child. I’ll only admit on an anonymous forum that I thought she would definitely get in. I won’t discuss with DD but it’s only a matter of time before the kids at school start talking.

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Is AAP doing what MoCo has done: weighting quality of home school and peer cohort against children?

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My theory is that FCPS purposefully uses a COGAT that is easier to score in the 98+ percentile.

In the same way NNAT captures a lot of kids and puts them in the pool, so does an easy cogat. This helps to identify more kids who might benefit from aap and would otherwise fall through the cracks. Then a committee can make a final say.

The difference between a 99% and a 95% on this cogat is insignificant to the committee. They must be taking a very holistic look at applicants.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes Asian, 99 percentile and rejected. Even if they wanted to get more URM students they could have added more spots instead of taking done away from deserving kids.

there is no limit on spots in AAP

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Anonymous wrote:Genuinely curious who is on this committee?

Files are screened by AARTs from all over the county. Every file has at least 2 readers.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to say that I'm in the same situation (99th percentile for CogAT composite) and not in.

I did submit some work samples but my kid isn't big on writing so they probably weren't very good. I will probably appeal, with more work samples, maybe get an IQ test.

I just clicked on other AAP thread and it sounds like we are not alone. I don’t have our test results in front of me but he was borderline for NNAT and 99th for both age and local. I don’t get it. He loves to read and is very advanced in math.

I wonder if the new gbrs system changed things.

I’m bummed. I know DS is going to be disappointed.

Sorry but that’s all on you, parent. Who in their right mind discusses this with their 7 year old? The level of unnecessary drama here is quite concerning. Please stop wrapping up your emotions in some school program.