"no massive development at superfresh!"

Anonymous
I also live in AU Park and I am all for something to be built there. It would be great to have some amenities like a grocery store. The vacant lot is awful to look at. How can it be so difficult to change zoning laws and get approvals...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I also live in AU Park and I am all for something to be built there. It would be great to have some amenities like a grocery store. The vacant lot is awful to look at. How can it be so difficult to change zoning laws and get approvals...


That's not the problem. You have a few rabid neighbors who are throwing everything at the wall to try to stop this. Their next stratagem is to sue even though they know they'll lose. They're hoping they can bleed out the developer.
Anonymous
I’m always confused about people saying how much we need a grocery store and amenities there. I live three blocks away and few very vey well covered with nearby choices:

Grocery stores: wagshals literally right there, Whole Foods within a mile, Giant within a mile, Rodman’s for some cheaper groceries a little bit over a mile, and a second Whole Foods a little over a mile.

Target coming within one mile.

Other things literally right there: Restaurants, pizzeria, Starbucks, Compass coffee, Wells Fargo, gas station, CVS, and building with a variety of medical and dental services.

Within ~one mile: Lots of restaurants of all variety, wine/liquor, tdbank, toy stores, karate for kids, ballet for kids, more banks, pet supply stores, massage, nails, and shopping mall.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m always confused about people saying how much we need a grocery store and amenities there. I live three blocks away and few very vey well covered with nearby choices:

Grocery stores: wagshals literally right there, Whole Foods within a mile, Giant within a mile, Rodman’s for some cheaper groceries a little bit over a mile, and a second Whole Foods a little over a mile.

Target coming within one mile.

Other things literally right there: Restaurants, pizzeria, Starbucks, Compass coffee, Wells Fargo, gas station, CVS, and building with a variety of medical and dental services.

Within ~one mile: Lots of restaurants of all variety, wine/liquor, tdbank, toy stores, karate for kids, ballet for kids, more banks, pet supply stores, massage, nails, and shopping mall.



You're right. Let's let it be vacant. Or, how about a giant liquor store, like Total Wine. We don't have one of those near us.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m always confused about people saying how much we need a grocery store and amenities there. I live three blocks away and few very vey well covered with nearby choices:

Grocery stores: wagshals literally right there, Whole Foods within a mile, Giant within a mile, Rodman’s for some cheaper groceries a little bit over a mile, and a second Whole Foods a little over a mile.

Target coming within one mile.

Other things literally right there: Restaurants, pizzeria, Starbucks, Compass coffee, Wells Fargo, gas station, CVS, and building with a variety of medical and dental services.

Within ~one mile: Lots of restaurants of all variety, wine/liquor, tdbank, toy stores, karate for kids, ballet for kids, more banks, pet supply stores, massage, nails, and shopping mall.



Well, since you are three blocks away, I think that does give you dictatorial control over what happens at the site. If you say we have enough amenities, then that must be the case. And if you don't agree with the rest of your neighbors (which includes me) that we would like a grocery store, well so be it. You've probably lived in the neighborhood for a very long time and you're say matters more than others. I've lived here long enough to see that how these neighbors -- my neighbors -- are operating.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m always confused about people saying how much we need a grocery store and amenities there. I live three blocks away and few very vey well covered with nearby choices:

Grocery stores: wagshals literally right there, Whole Foods within a mile, Giant within a mile, Rodman’s for some cheaper groceries a little bit over a mile, and a second Whole Foods a little over a mile.

Target coming within one mile.

Other things literally right there: Restaurants, pizzeria, Starbucks, Compass coffee, Wells Fargo, gas station, CVS, and building with a variety of medical and dental services.

Within ~one mile: Lots of restaurants of all variety, wine/liquor, tdbank, toy stores, karate for kids, ballet for kids, more banks, pet supply stores, massage, nails, and shopping mall.



And you walk to those grocery stores and restaurants that are a mile away?

Assuming you and everyone else drives do you think that is a good thing?
Anonymous
PP who listed the nearby amenities here. Calm down y’all. Of course, I would love and welcome more amenities (even though I do not welcome an apartment complex). I was simply commenting that i don’t understand arguments saying there is such a great need for it or that seem to be people complaining about the lack of nearby amenities. We have an unbelievable amount of nearby amenities, so that seems like a farce to me. That being said, no doubt about it, I would love the luxury of having even more choices, even closer by. But that’s exactly what it is- a luxury, IMHO.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m always confused about people saying how much we need a grocery store and amenities there. I live three blocks away and few very vey well covered with nearby choices:

Grocery stores: wagshals literally right there, Whole Foods within a mile, Giant within a mile, Rodman’s for some cheaper groceries a little bit over a mile, and a second Whole Foods a little over a mile.

Target coming within one mile.

Other things literally right there: Restaurants, pizzeria, Starbucks, Compass coffee, Wells Fargo, gas station, CVS, and building with a variety of medical and dental services.

Within ~one mile: Lots of restaurants of all variety, wine/liquor, tdbank, toy stores, karate for kids, ballet for kids, more banks, pet supply stores, massage, nails, and shopping mall.



And you walk to those grocery stores and restaurants that are a mile away?

Assuming you and everyone else drives do you think that is a good thing?


Well, I walk to and from the metro everyday, so yes, when I need a couple things from Whole Foods, I grab them on the way home and walk back. If I’m already home, generally no. But i also drive to Wagshals and CVS, if I have anything more than a bag to carry. If there were a grocery store at the Superfresh site, i can guarantee I would be driving there at least 9 out of 10 times despite it being three blocks away for two reasons. One, if I have as many groceries as I normally do leaving a grocery store, I usually can’t physically carry them all across the street nevertheless a few blocks without a hassle, if at all. Second, most of the time, I have at least one of my young kids with me when grocery shopping (like many in the neighborhood) and no way am O trying that without a car.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:More kids at Janney great. AU Park doesn’t need apts


This. Except the problem isn’t really Janney- It’s Deal and Wilson. Way too overcrowded, particularly the latter. Absolutely no need for apartments. Shoo


My only hope is that you're relatively young so that you can live long enough to watch us young people become the voting majority and vote in a mayor and council who will Minneapolis-ize our zoning laws and flood upper NW with apartments.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/13/us/minneapolis-single-family-zoning.html


I don't understand why anyone would want that. Why does everything always have to get denser and denser? It's nice to have SFH residential neighborhoods.


So people can afford housing, and to reduce carbon emissions. Not really hard to understand ...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I also live in AU Park and I am all for something to be built there. It would be great to have some amenities like a grocery store. The vacant lot is awful to look at. How can it be so difficult to change zoning laws and get approvals...


That's not the problem. You have a few rabid neighbors who are throwing everything at the wall to try to stop this. Their next stratagem is to sue even though they know they'll lose. They're hoping they can bleed out the developer.


It's the same about 1.5 miles north, where the Save Westbard ninnies are using a similar strategy, combines with faux outrage over an African American cemetery that was paved over decades ago. They all suck.
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