Interesting stat about likelihood of going pro

[Anonymous]

there are nearly 37,000 women's college roster spots at all levels.

ECNL and DA combined graduate about 3300 players per year.

If D1, D2 and D3 alone graduate an average of 4 seniors per year alone there are 4156 roster spots available.

[Anonymous]

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How is this an interesting statistic?

It gives some perspective on all the DCUM threads about soccer - which is the best league, or the best club, blah blah blah.

It doesn't matter.

Just sign the kids up and let them play.

Sure, but point to a single thread that has anyone talking seriously about their kids prospects about going pro. 99% of the people here who have their kids in DA or ECNL are doing so for college and that is it.

There is nothing remotely new regarding the success rate of making a Premier League Roster.

Don't quit your day job to write PSA's.

I snickered.

[Anonymous]

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How is this an interesting statistic?

It gives some perspective on all the DCUM threads about soccer - which is the best league, or the best club, blah blah blah.

It doesn't matter.

Just sign the kids up and let them play.

Except no one is expecting their kid to play in the Premier League. At most they are looking for a leg up in college.

They're wasting their time thinking about that, too.

http://www.scholarshipstats.com/soccer.html

% of US High School Soccer Players competing at any College Level 7.5% (men) 9.4% (women)
% of US High School Soccer Players Competing at NCAA I Schools 1.0% (men) 2.1% (women)

Did anyone say scholarship?

For many the opportunity to play soccer can simply open doors to schools not otherwise considered.

What is the percent of High School soccer players who are playing in DA and ECNL?

Try again. Those aren't the "get a scholarship" numbers. Those are the "playing in college" numbers. Odds of a scholarship are even worse!

You can't really generalize very much from these percentages. They don't reflect the fairly large number of kids playing in HS who opted not to play in high school. They don't distinguish between kids who are still playing their senior year and those who played at some point in HS but quite, and of course, they don't include any DA kids or others who will play in college or go pro, but who do not play in HS.

Also, are there percentage numbers like this that are broken out by state or region? Your odds of playing in college are significantly higher if ou are from in a soccer hotbed state vs. Idaho, S. Dakota, Montana, etc. As an example, take a look at Top Drawer Soccer's commitment list for class of 2019 boys: https://www.topdrawersoccer.com/search/?query=&divisionId=&genderId=m&graduationYear=2019&positionId=0&playerRating=&stateId=All&pageNo=0&area=commitments This database is by no means complete as there are tons of kids who don't bother to report their commitments, and most of those who do are playing D1, but you can still get a sense of the DMV slice of the entire pie. Of the 893 2019 boys who will play in college, 46 are from MD and 40 are from VA. Together, they make up close to 10% of the national number.

It is, of course, ridiculous for anyone to think their 9 year old will play in the EPL, even if he is a very talented 9 year old currently in a top academy program in the UK. It's not at all ridiculous for a parent of a HS player on a decent club around here to think their kid will play in college. Most probably can if they make that their priority. It's also not ridiculous for a parent of a kid who is a DA star to think he may have a shot at the pros, since many will play a few years professionally at some level.

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Anonymous wrote:That statistic is not surprising. I would also assume that very few people become video game testers (and earn a living) which is my middle school boy's current plan for a job.

Ha!! Love this post.

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$3-$5k a year, multiple by 10 years...That is my kid's scholarship money and he can open doors by using the spare time not playing soccer or fortnite to get better grades and scores.

hahaha, Hallmark moment: "Play for the memories!"

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Anonymous wrote:$3-$5k a year, multiple by 10 years...That is my kid's scholarship money and he can open doors by using the spare time not playing soccer or fortnite to get better grades and scores.

hahaha, Hallmark moment: "Play for the memories!"

Have you looked at the cost of college lately? $5K/year x 10 = $50K. That gets you one year, not an education.... Not to say that many kids get full rides, because they don't, especially the boys, but still....

Also, there are stats out there talking about in HS and definitely in college, how the athletes do better overall in school than the non-athletes (and I"m not talking about the crazy genius valedictorian kids -- the solid ones) -- why? They learn how to manage their time. Which all that "spare time" doesn't teach them. They just spend it on social media (or, if we believe PP, vaping.)

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Anonymous wrote:What about artist? How many art majors make it as artists?

Apples to oranges. Many art majors end up working iin business. There is a demand for graphic artist, designers, photoshop, etc. Some run their own business many work in media, marketing, sales, etc. They also do not peak at 25 and done by 35.

Chances of making the NBA

Men's Basketball
-- High school senior players who go on to play NCAA men`s basketball: Less than one in 35, or 2.9 percent.

-- NCAA senior players drafted by an NBA team: Less than one in 75, or 1.3 percent.

-- High school senior players eventually drafted by an NBA team: About three in 10,000, or 0.03 percent. That's roughly the chance of getting four of a kind in the first round of draw poker.
https://www.norwichcsd.org/Downloads/ProSportsOdds.doc


All these pro leagues are extremely selective and have extremely high burn rates.

Graphic design is its own thing. Art majors either become art teachers, or working at Barnes and Noble, or waiting tables. Art history major not very valuable either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:$3-$5k a year, multiple by 10 years...That is my kid's scholarship money and he can open doors by using the spare time not playing soccer or fortnite to get better grades and scores.

hahaha, Hallmark moment: "Play for the memories!"

Have you looked at the cost of college lately? $5K/year x 10 = $50K. That gets you one year, not an education.... Not to say that many kids get full rides, because they don't, especially the boys, but still....

Also, there are stats out there talking about in HS and definitely in college, how the athletes do better overall in school than the non-athletes (and I"m not talking about the crazy genius valedictorian kids -- the solid ones) -- why? They learn how to manage their time. Which all that "spare time" doesn't teach them. They just spend it on social media (or, if we believe PP, vaping.)

So you need to so some searches, the public colleges in MD and VA are about 10k annually, not 50k for tuition. If you are spending and extra 40k for books, room/board (optional), that is on you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:$3-$5k a year, multiple by 10 years...That is my kid's scholarship money and he can open doors by using the spare time not playing soccer or fortnite to get better grades and scores.

hahaha, Hallmark moment: "Play for the memories!"

Have you looked at the cost of college lately? $5K/year x 10 = $50K. That gets you one year, not an education.... Not to say that many kids get full rides, because they don't, especially the boys, but still....

Also, there are stats out there talking about in HS and definitely in college, how the athletes do better overall in school than the non-athletes (and I"m not talking about the crazy genius valedictorian kids -- the solid ones) -- why? They learn how to manage their time. Which all that "spare time" doesn't teach them. They just spend it on social media (or, if we believe PP, vaping.)

So you need to so some searches, the public colleges in MD and VA are about 10k annually, not 50k for tuition. If you are spending and extra 40k for books, room/board (optional), that is on you.

Okay, first, everyone isn't going to a public college. But second, here's the result of the first search I did:

"Residents of Virginia pay an annual total price of $37,386 to attend College of William and Mary on a full time basis. This fee is comprised of $16,370 for tuition, $11,799 room and board, $1,400 for books and supplies and $5,674 for other fees."

Tuition is not the only cost. Oh right. And yes, you can pay less and some other VA schools, but you can pay more, too. Some, like UVA, have additional costs depending on the program you choose, etc.

[Anonymous]

Would you worry about your kid becoming a professional accountant starting at age 12 to get into a top accounting school?

[Anonymous]

Crazy stats

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
How is this an interesting statistic?

It gives some perspective on all the DCUM threads about soccer - which is the best league, or the best club, blah blah blah.

It doesn't matter.

Just sign the kids up and let them play.

Nope, because you have to belong to the best club for status reasons, and to get the coaches eyes on you, so you can get that big full soccer scholarship that, by the way, doesn't really exist.

I feel bad for the kids who jump from team to team to team. We know of kids who moved to five teams in six years, always chasing the next best thing, and never making good friendships on any of them in the process.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
How is this an interesting statistic?

It gives some perspective on all the DCUM threads about soccer - which is the best league, or the best club, blah blah blah.

It doesn't matter.

Just sign the kids up and let them play.

Except no one is expecting their kid to play in the Premier League. At most they are looking for a leg up in college.

They're wasting their time thinking about that, too.

http://www.scholarshipstats.com/soccer.html

% of US High School Soccer Players competing at any College Level 7.5% (men) 9.4% (women)
% of US High School Soccer Players Competing at NCAA I Schools 1.0% (men) 2.1% (women)

Did anyone say scholarship?

For many the opportunity to play soccer can simply open doors to schools not otherwise considered.

What is the percent of High School soccer players who are playing in DA and ECNL?

Try again. Those aren't the "get a scholarship" numbers. Those are the "playing in college" numbers. Odds of a scholarship are even worse!

You can't really generalize very much from these percentages. They don't reflect the fairly large number of kids playing in HS who opted not to play in high school. They don't distinguish between kids who are still playing their senior year and those who played at some point in HS but quite, and of course, they don't include any DA kids or others who will play in college or go pro, but who do not play in HS.

Also, are there percentage numbers like this that are broken out by state or region? Your odds of playing in college are significantly higher if ou are from in a soccer hotbed state vs. Idaho, S. Dakota, Montana, etc. As an example, take a look at Top Drawer Soccer's commitment list for class of 2019 boys: https://www.topdrawersoccer.com/search/?query=&divisionId=&genderId=m&graduationYear=2019&positionId=0&playerRating=&stateId=All&pageNo=0&area=commitments This database is by no means complete as there are tons of kids who don't bother to report their commitments, and most of those who do are playing D1, but you can still get a sense of the DMV slice of the entire pie. Of the 893 2019 boys who will play in college, 46 are from MD and 40 are from VA. Together, they make up close to 10% of the national number.

It is, of course, ridiculous for anyone to think their 9 year old will play in the EPL, even if he is a very talented 9 year old currently in a top academy program in the UK. It's not at all ridiculous for a parent of a HS player on a decent club around here to think their kid will play in college. Most probably can if they make that their priority. It's also not ridiculous for a parent of a kid who is a DA star to think he may have a shot at the pros, since many will play a few years professionally at some level.

I think a lot of parents equate 'commitment' with 'full scholarship'.... How much scholarship money do you think a kid is getting to go to Upper Iowa? Or Cal State-San Marcos? Or Monmouth? I bet the cost of one year on their club team > whatever soccer-related aid they are getting. (Need-based, work-study aid, etc. is different).

I am not discounting the value of playing sports, learning time management, being athletic and healthy, making friends. But the fact is there is way, way more money out there for academics than for sports, and when I see "signing ceremonies" for a kid who is "committed" to Upper Iowa or Southeastern Oklahoma or Goucher it cracks me up.

[Anonymous]

Why do you care?

Not that you have really seen these signings and you went well out of your way to find schools as obscure as you could but the very notion of crapping in any kids choice of school is simply petty and vile.

Worry about your own kid and let other people live in peace without your judgement.

[Anonymous]

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/10/sports/10scholarships.html