1 year contract

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Anonymous wrote:No offers, cut, demotion....doesn't matter. You tryout annually and if that particular coach sees something they like, they will offer you a spot at what they perceive as the appropriate team. Can they be wrong...all the time, do they adjust during the season...up yes, down no.

Don't forget, it's an offer that you do NOT have to accept.

Just curious, how many clubs actually adjust up (invite B team players to play with A team)?

I agree that there is not usually adjustment down, so what happens to those mistake A team players who lose playing time if players from lower teams play with the A team?

I have posted in other threads, but I continue to maintain that a player should know if she is a bubble player going into tryouts. Regardless of whether it is a cut or demotion, the change should not come as a surprise if the coach is doing his job. From a parental perspective, ideally, if the coach thinks that the B team might be a better fit, perhaps invite the player to play with the B team to meet the coach and other players before the season ends. Depending on the team, some kids would rather be the star on a B team than sit on the bench of an A team.

Experience tells me that coaches do not do this because they want to hedge their bets by keeping as many players as possible from looking at other options or trying out for other teams. They will keep the bubble kids if nothing better comes along.

I am interested in knowing whether people think that this "one year commitment" idea makes sense.

Teams have tournaments, State Cup, and other events in May. And then, of course, there are school events and actual school work, which should be a priority.

To me, this "one year contract" idea is crazy because kids (and parents) it causes people to run around throughout May to tryout for other clubs, missing practices with their existing teams, and squeeze in school as well. Sorry, I refuse to do that. It doesn't seem fair to the team, I teach my kids loyalty and commitment, but then I'm the sucker when my kid is offered something that is a bad fit.

I could accept the "one year contract" idea of tryouts came after the existing season ended. But they take up an entire month of a season and are disruptive on many levels. Did I mention school? That's why some of us prefer a more stable environment.

If you recognize the signs you will know if your kid is a bubble player or not. Drastically diminishing playing time, drastic change in team role etc.

Tryouts are for outside kids. Your kid has had at least a 9 month tryout already.

Talk to the coach about your kids spot and future with the team and the club.

Keep in mind if the roster is going to expand the next year from 7v7 to 9v9 or 9v9 to 11v11. Those expansion years are generally not "cut" years even for "bubble" players. Coaches generally only try to add players who are better than what they already have. If an outside player and "bubble" player are essentially the same they will in most cases keep the bubble player unless the roster is expanding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No offers, cut, demotion....doesn't matter. You tryout annually and if that particular coach sees something they like, they will offer you a spot at what they perceive as the appropriate team. Can they be wrong...all the time, do they adjust during the season...up yes, down no.

Don't forget, it's an offer that you do NOT have to accept.

Just curious, how many clubs actually adjust up (invite B team players to play with A team)?

I agree that there is not usually adjustment down, so what happens to those mistake A team players who lose playing time if players from lower teams play with the A team?

I have posted in other threads, but I continue to maintain that a player should know if she is a bubble player going into tryouts. Regardless of whether it is a cut or demotion, the change should not come as a surprise if the coach is doing his job. From a parental perspective, ideally, if the coach thinks that the B team might be a better fit, perhaps invite the player to play with the B team to meet the coach and other players before the season ends. Depending on the team, some kids would rather be the star on a B team than sit on the bench of an A team.

Experience tells me that coaches do not do this because they want to hedge their bets by keeping as many players as possible from looking at other options or trying out for other teams. They will keep the bubble kids if nothing better comes along.

I am interested in knowing whether people think that this "one year commitment" idea makes sense.

Teams have tournaments, State Cup, and other events in May. And then, of course, there are school events and actual school work, which should be a priority.

To me, this "one year contract" idea is crazy because kids (and parents) it causes people to run around throughout May to tryout for other clubs, missing practices with their existing teams, and squeeze in school as well. Sorry, I refuse to do that. It doesn't seem fair to the team, I teach my kids loyalty and commitment, but then I'm the sucker when my kid is offered something that is a bad fit.

I could accept the "one year contract" idea of tryouts came after the existing season ended. But they take up an entire month of a season and are disruptive on many levels. Did I mention school? That's why some of us prefer a more stable environment.

If you recognize the signs you will know if your kid is a bubble player or not. Drastically diminishing playing time, drastic change in team role etc.

Tryouts are for outside kids. Your kid has had at least a 9 month tryout already.

Talk to the coach about your kids spot and future with the team and the club.

Keep in mind if the roster is going to expand the next year from 7v7 to 9v9 or 9v9 to 11v11. Those expansion years are generally not "cut" years even for "bubble" players. Coaches generally only try to add players who are better than what they already have. If an outside player and "bubble" player are essentially the same they will in most cases keep the bubble player unless the roster is expanding.

In your situation when the outside player and the bubble player are the essentially same, many clubs will place the outside player on the top team and move down the bubble player, because many outside players won't join unless offered a spot on the top team. Some bubble players will leave the club, but many get the demotion news late in the tryout process. Accordingly, unless they already tried out for other clubs prior to getting the bad news, their options to leave the club for a better or comparable team are limited.

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In your situation when the outside player and the bubble player are the essentially same, many clubs will place the outside player on the top team and move down the bubble player, because many outside players won't join unless offered a spot on the top team. Some bubble players will leave the club, but many get the demotion news late in the tryout process. Accordingly, unless they already tried out for other clubs prior to getting the bad news, their options to leave the club for a better or comparable team are limited.

+1000. This is how it normally plays out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No offers, cut, demotion....doesn't matter. You tryout annually and if that particular coach sees something they like, they will offer you a spot at what they perceive as the appropriate team. Can they be wrong...all the time, do they adjust during the season...up yes, down no.

Don't forget, it's an offer that you do NOT have to accept.

Just curious, how many clubs actually adjust up (invite B team players to play with A team)?

I agree that there is not usually adjustment down, so what happens to those mistake A team players who lose playing time if players from lower teams play with the A team?

I have posted in other threads, but I continue to maintain that a player should know if she is a bubble player going into tryouts. Regardless of whether it is a cut or demotion, the change should not come as a surprise if the coach is doing his job. From a parental perspective, ideally, if the coach thinks that the B team might be a better fit, perhaps invite the player to play with the B team to meet the coach and other players before the season ends. Depending on the team, some kids would rather be the star on a B team than sit on the bench of an A team.

Experience tells me that coaches do not do this because they want to hedge their bets by keeping as many players as possible from looking at other options or trying out for other teams. They will keep the bubble kids if nothing better comes along.

I am interested in knowing whether people think that this "one year commitment" idea makes sense.

Teams have tournaments, State Cup, and other events in May. And then, of course, there are school events and actual school work, which should be a priority.

To me, this "one year contract" idea is crazy because kids (and parents) it causes people to run around throughout May to tryout for other clubs, missing practices with their existing teams, and squeeze in school as well. Sorry, I refuse to do that. It doesn't seem fair to the team, I teach my kids loyalty and commitment, but then I'm the sucker when my kid is offered something that is a bad fit.

I could accept the "one year contract" idea of tryouts came after the existing season ended. But they take up an entire month of a season and are disruptive on many levels. Did I mention school? That's why some of us prefer a more stable environment.

If you recognize the signs you will know if your kid is a bubble player or not. Drastically diminishing playing time, drastic change in team role etc.

Tryouts are for outside kids. Your kid has had at least a 9 month tryout already.

Talk to the coach about your kids spot and future with the team and the club.

Keep in mind if the roster is going to expand the next year from 7v7 to 9v9 or 9v9 to 11v11. Those expansion years are generally not "cut" years even for "bubble" players. Coaches generally only try to add players who are better than what they already have. If an outside player and "bubble" player are essentially the same they will in most cases keep the bubble player unless the roster is expanding.

In your situation when the outside player and the bubble player are the essentially same, many clubs will place the outside player on the top team and move down the bubble player, because many outside players won't join unless offered a spot on the top team. Some bubble players will leave the club, but many get the demotion news late in the tryout process. Accordingly, unless they already tried out for other clubs prior to getting the bad news, their options to leave the club for a better or comparable team are limited.

Yup, this can happen too. Mostly in the non-expansion years. Another reason why talking with the coach is always important.

If you are a bubble player you should always have options. If possible ask parents with older kids in the club how these things are handled as that can give perspective on how the club moves kids up and down.