School won’t provide packets until April??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What packet are you talking about? My DS1 is in 5th grade, so my info might be outdated, but in the middle of January we received the Cogat score with the notification that he was in the pool. The school sent an email early January that said everyone with a NNAT or Cogat of over 132 is in the pool. We didn't get the documentation the school sent to the county until the end of the 3rd grade.
If your child is not in the pool, I'd definitely schedule the WISC.

The packet is for parents who referred, so butt out. You obviously don’t know a thing about it.

The packet is for everyone. The packet includes GBRS and work samples for all kids who are being considered for AAP, this includes kid who are in the pool and kids who are parent referred. The difference is that the teachers have to provide GBRSs and work samples for kids in the pool automatically.

So kids who are in pool have packets, some of them will not be accepted because of low GBRSs or poor work samples or both.

But then how do you explain the ignorance of the previous poster? She says, “what packet”? The reason she doesn’t know is Bc her kid was automatically in the pool and she obviously didn’t put together one. Smh.

Er ... ignorance? SMH

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There aren’t gbrs scores any more so it wouldn’t really help.

Oh for heaven’s sake. Commentary or whatever you want to call it. I want it.

You can get it in April. It's not being withheld from you.

I don’t understand why I can’t get it now. Other schooos are able to provide it now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What packet are you talking about? My DS1 is in 5th grade, so my info might be outdated, but in the middle of January we received the Cogat score with the notification that he was in the pool. The school sent an email early January that said everyone with a NNAT or Cogat of over 132 is in the pool. We didn't get the documentation the school sent to the county until the end of the 3rd grade.
If your child is not in the pool, I'd definitely schedule the WISC.

The packet is for parents who referred, so butt out. You obviously don’t know a thing about it.

The packet is for everyone. The packet includes GBRS and work samples for all kids who are being considered for AAP, this includes kid who are in the pool and kids who are parent referred. The difference is that the teachers have to provide GBRSs and work samples for kids in the pool automatically.

So kids who are in pool have packets, some of them will not be accepted because of low GBRSs or poor work samples or both.

But then how do you explain the ignorance of the previous poster? She says, “what packet”? The reason she doesn’t know is Bc her kid was automatically in the pool and she obviously didn’t put together one. Smh.

Er ... ignorance? SMH

So, how does me telling her to butt out when she is ignorant make me an a—hole?

[Anonymous]

I'm guessing that they're not supposed to let you have the packets now, but some AARTs aren't following the rules. My school's very reasonable, very by-the-books AART wouldn't let me have the packets for my kids until after the decisions were mailed in April.

One of my kids was in pool and the other was a parent referral. There really wasn't a difference between an in-pool packet and a parent referral packet, except that the parent referral form is included in one and not the other.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What packet are you talking about? My DS1 is in 5th grade, so my info might be outdated, but in the middle of January we received the Cogat score with the notification that he was in the pool. The school sent an email early January that said everyone with a NNAT or Cogat of over 132 is in the pool. We didn't get the documentation the school sent to the county until the end of the 3rd grade.
If your child is not in the pool, I'd definitely schedule the WISC.

The packet is for parents who referred, so butt out. You obviously don’t know a thing about it.

The packet is for everyone. The packet includes GBRS and work samples for all kids who are being considered for AAP, this includes kid who are in the pool and kids who are parent referred. The difference is that the teachers have to provide GBRSs and work samples for kids in the pool automatically.

So kids who are in pool have packets, some of them will not be accepted because of low GBRSs or poor work samples or both.

But then how do you explain the ignorance of the previous poster? She says, “what packet”? The reason she doesn’t know is Bc her kid was automatically in the pool and she obviously didn’t put together one. Smh.

Er ... ignorance? SMH

So, how does me telling her to butt out when she is ignorant make me an a—hole?

Who knows why the parent was not aware of packets for their kid. Maybe they did not know about the process until their kid was accepted. Maybe they did and they were not that worried if their kid was in AAP or not. Maybe they would have looked into it if their kid had not been accepted. Whatever the reason, the parent is clearly far less high strung then many posters on these boards.

It is not considered polite to tell people to butt out, that is rude. I get that the poster had a different experience then you did but there is no reason to be rude. You could simply ignore their post. It is not hard to do.

Your tone in your posts has been off putting. To be frank, you are the poster that makes people shake their head at parents of AAP kids. You are so stressed over if your 7 or 8 year old is accepted into a program that you are biting peoples heads off on a message board. You are probably driving your AART rep crazy. I don't know if you are the poster who has posted in several threads trying to find out what schools AART teachers have given packets early or not but I wouldn't be surprised to find out that you are.

Just relax. Take a few deep breaths. Your child is likely to be fine regardless of what school they end up at. The world doesn't end if your kid ends up in a gen ed.

You are working yourself up into a tizzy over a not yet made decision about a program for your 7-8 year old child. Chill.

[Anonymous]

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Who knows why the parent was not aware of packets for their kid. Maybe they did not know about the process until their kid was accepted. Maybe they did and they were not that worried if their kid was in AAP or not. Maybe they would have looked into it if their kid had not been accepted. Whatever the reason, the parent is clearly far less high strung then many posters on these boards.

It is not considered polite to tell people to butt out, that is rude. I get that the poster had a different experience then you did but there is no reason to be rude. You could simply ignore their post. It is not hard to do.

Your tone in your posts has been off putting. To be frank, you are the poster that makes people shake their head at parents of AAP kids. You are so stressed over if your 7 or 8 year old is accepted into a program that you are biting peoples heads off on a message board. You are probably driving your AART rep crazy. I don't know if you are the poster who has posted in several threads trying to find out what schools AART teachers have given packets early or not but I wouldn't be surprised to find out that you are.

Just relax. Take a few deep breaths. Your child is likely to be fine regardless of what school they end up at. The world doesn't end if your kid ends up in a gen ed.

You are working yourself up into a tizzy over a not yet made decision about a program for your 7-8 year old child. Chill.

+1

To all of this.

[Anonymous]

All I want is a copy of the packet which I am entitled to. The window between results from central committee and appeals is too short to wait to schedule the WISC. I only want to see the packet so I can determine if it’s worth scheduling a WISC. If the GBRS score is bad, I don’t want to schedule a WISC. And I don’t want to just schedule one and then cancel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All I want is a copy of the packet which I am entitled to. The window between results from central committee and appeals is too short to wait to schedule the WISC. I only want to see the packet so I can determine if it’s worth scheduling a WISC. If the GBRS score is bad, I don’t want to schedule a WISC. And I don’t want to just schedule one and then cancel.

OP, I'm the PP you told to butt out. As I said before, I got the stuff that the 2nd grade teacher and the AART teacher put together for my ds1 at the end of 3rd grade. If this is the package you are talking about, there's nothing magical about it. You won't read anything like this child is brilliant and belongs in the AAP. The language was very neutral and my DC got a 14 out of 16 and had 140 nnat and 138 cogat, so you'd think they'd write something complimentary. It won't help you decipher if your child will get in or not based on that package.
I was just trying to help. If I were in your shoes and not in the pool, I'd schedule the WISC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All I want is a copy of the packet which I am entitled to. The window between results from central committee and appeals is too short to wait to schedule the WISC. I only want to see the packet so I can determine if it’s worth scheduling a WISC. If the GBRS score is bad, I don’t want to schedule a WISC. And I don’t want to just schedule one and then cancel.

OP, I'm the PP you told to butt out. As I said before, I got the stuff that the 2nd grade teacher and the AART teacher put together for my ds1 at the end of 3rd grade. If this is the package you are talking about, there's nothing magical about it. You won't read anything like this child is brilliant and belongs in the AAP. The language was very neutral and my DC got a 14 out of 16 and had 140 nnat and 138 cogat, so you'd think they'd write something complimentary. It won't help you decipher if your child will get in or not based on that package.
I was just trying to help. If I were in your shoes and not in the pool, I'd schedule the WISC.

Your child had a great package. The test scores and the GBRSs made it clear that your child would be accepted. If the OPs childs test scores are under or close to 132, the GBRS matter a great deal. If the GBRS are mediocre, there is a possibility that the child will not be accepted.

It sounds like this was a parent referal, meaning the test scores were under the 132 thereshold for the child to be automatically in pool. A 132 on the NNAT ior CogAT means the child is in pool automatically. So lower test scores and a parent referal are going to require stellar GBRS. The OP is desperate to get their child into AAP and is planning on appealing if the child is not accepted. They want to schedule a WISC for that purpose but a WISC is expensive.

OP, we get it, you want your package. Nothing you post on this site is going to help you. Biting off the head of someone who posted their experience is not going to help you. Asking your AART teacher multiple times for the package is not going to help you.

I get it,it is frustating that some AARTs are giving packages to parents early and yours is not. That sucks. It is frustrating that the county doesn’t enforce one system offelivery for scores and packets. It is frustrating to see people post about their packets. Got it. But beating your head against the wall is not going to change any ting.

You are far too investd in this program. It is kind of not healthy. Everyone wants the best for their child. AAP sounds nice and great but there are a lot of success stories coming out of Gen Ed as well. Your child is 7-8, they will survive and probably thrive if you love them and help giude them. Breath and chill out. If you feel this must pressure around AAP, you are going to be a real mess when college applications are submitted.

[Anonymous]

As I posted in one of the other threads about this, we did not schedule a WISC until a few days after getting an ineleigibility letter and it was no problem. GMU is very attuned to FCPS AAP timeline. There is no need to schedule it now “just in case”. You can wait.

[Anonymous]

Your poor kid. You seem really uptight and rude.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Your poor kid. You seem really uptight and rude.

I'll give the benefit of the doubt and go with concerned, wanting the best for their kid, frustrated with a system that does not follow the same rules, and stressed.

But I have to admit that I worry about the kid who has this type of pressure at home because if Mom is venting like this online, she is probably a mess at home.

Says someone who is a venter and working on it because I know it is not good for my son.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm guessing that they're not supposed to let you have the packets now, but some AARTs aren't following the rules. My school's very reasonable, very by-the-books AART wouldn't let me have the packets for my kids until after the decisions were mailed in April.

One of my kids was in pool and the other was a parent referral. There really wasn't a difference between an in-pool packet and a parent referral packet, except that the parent referral form is included in one and not the other.

FCPS AAP page online says packets are available "on parent request." It doesn't imply any sort of timeline. If I were OP, I'd directly ask the AART why she can't have a copy when she knows that they're readily available at other schools. If AART still refuses, then I'd schedule a time to come in to the school and just review the packet (not necessarily walk away with a copy). I would assume the school was trying to hide something if they refused a request to even just view the file.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm guessing that they're not supposed to let you have the packets now, but some AARTs aren't following the rules. My school's very reasonable, very by-the-books AART wouldn't let me have the packets for my kids until after the decisions were mailed in April.

One of my kids was in pool and the other was a parent referral. There really wasn't a difference between an in-pool packet and a parent referral packet, except that the parent referral form is included in one and not the other.

FCPS AAP page online says packets are available "on parent request." It doesn't imply any sort of timeline. If I were OP, I'd directly ask the AART why she can't have a copy when she knows that they're readily available at other schools. If AART still refuses, then I'd schedule a time to come in to the school and just review the packet (not necessarily walk away with a copy). I would assume the school was trying to hide something if they refused a request to even just view the file.

Yes, this exactly!!!

And no, I’m not a mess at home at all lol. My kid doesn’t even know I have parent referred her. She doesn’t even know what AAP is! You all realize that is why we have message boards? We can be anxious on them but not in front of our kids!! And gen ed is a complete joke!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All I want is a copy of the packet which I am entitled to. The window between results from central committee and appeals is too short to wait to schedule the WISC. I only want to see the packet so I can determine if it’s worth scheduling a WISC. If the GBRS score is bad, I don’t want to schedule a WISC. And I don’t want to just schedule one and then cancel.

Sometimes you can’t always get what you want - just schedule it and cancel is the easiest course of action here and then you can move on.