Summary report from DCPS to Wilson Feeder Pattern Working Group

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All the information is see here shows that the crowding is fixable by ending out of boundary enrollments. Either kill boundary-based rights and go to lottery (fairer than residential segregation but politically unrealistic) or end the out-of Lyndsey rights and put these kids into other neighborhood schools where their families’ presences can be transformative. People who want good schools need to be in our neighborhood schools and pushing for their success, not fighting for the last seat in Tenleytown.

You keep repeating this theory that if OOB people are not allowed to enroll in currently acceptable schools that they will enroll in poor performing schools as an alternative however this argument has no basis in fact. People will continue to seek out higher performing schools whether they be charters or private or out of DC entirely. Very, very few people will sacrifice their children in hopes of "transforming" a school. It's just not going to happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the information is see here shows that the crowding is fixable by ending out of boundary enrollments. Either kill boundary-based rights and go to lottery (fairer than residential segregation but politically unrealistic) or end the out-of Lyndsey rights and put these kids into other neighborhood schools where their families’ presences can be transformative. People who want good schools need to be in our neighborhood schools and pushing for their success, not fighting for the last seat in Tenleytown.

You keep repeating this theory that if OOB people are not allowed to enroll in currently acceptable schools that they will enroll in poor performing schools as an alternative however this argument has no basis in fact. People will continue to seek out higher performing schools whether they be charters or private or out of DC entirely. Very, very few people will sacrifice their children in hopes of "transforming" a school. It's just not going to happen.

That wasn’t the case with Hardy. Families by and large opted in.

Also, if they go charter, they’re still DC tax base families. If private, even better as they pay taxes but don’t utilize services. Both cases free up space at Wilson. If they move, that’s a calculated measurement of which there will be someone to buy their home and replace them. So where exactly is the problem?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the information is see here shows that the crowding is fixable by ending out of boundary enrollments. Either kill boundary-based rights and go to lottery (fairer than residential segregation but politically unrealistic) or end the out-of Lyndsey rights and put these kids into other neighborhood schools where their families’ presences can be transformative. People who want good schools need to be in our neighborhood schools and pushing for their success, not fighting for the last seat in Tenleytown.

You keep repeating this theory that if OOB people are not allowed to enroll in currently acceptable schools that they will enroll in poor performing schools as an alternative however this argument has no basis in fact. People will continue to seek out higher performing schools whether they be charters or private or out of DC entirely. Very, very few people will sacrifice their children in hopes of "transforming" a school. It's just not going to happen.

That wasn’t the case with Hardy. Families by and large opted in.

Also, if they go charter, they’re still DC tax base families. If private, even better as they pay taxes but don’t utilize services. Both cases free up space at Wilson. If they move, that’s a calculated measurement of which there will be someone to buy their home and replace them. So where exactly is the problem?

Um, doesn't Hardy feed to Wilson??

[Anonymous]

Hardy feeds Wilson, but for many years and until recently, most of its students were OOB.

Until the last year or two, the Wilson feed was not enough to get many IB families tanyway after attending middle school elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hardy feeds Wilson, but for many years and until recently, most of its students were OOB.

Until the last year or two, the Wilson feed was not enough to get many IB families tanyway after attending middle school elsewhere.

Right. But you think that trying to force people to enroll at a poor performing middle school that feeds an even less desirable HS will work as a an option even though one that fed a desirable HS has struggled?

[Anonymous]

The Out-Of-Boundary thing is insane. End it. You renovate schools all over the district and still allow this ridiculousness.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know more about the 2022 review, and more specifically, when the new boundaries will be announced and/or put into effect? We're probably going to have to move around 2023 or so due to schools (we are EOTP with two young kids, our IB school is fine in the early grades but tapers off quickly). I'd love to time it around this because one of my biggest fears is buying somewhere based on schools and getting zoned out (Mt Pleasant specifically is a neighborhood I'd love to target but I'm too nervous about).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the information is see here shows that the crowding is fixable by ending out of boundary enrollments. Either kill boundary-based rights and go to lottery (fairer than residential segregation but politically unrealistic) or end the out-of Lyndsey rights and put these kids into other neighborhood schools where their families’ presences can be transformative. People who want good schools need to be in our neighborhood schools and pushing for their success, not fighting for the last seat in Tenleytown.

You keep repeating this theory that if OOB people are not allowed to enroll in currently acceptable schools that they will enroll in poor performing schools as an alternative however this argument has no basis in fact. People will continue to seek out higher performing schools whether they be charters or private or out of DC entirely. Very, very few people will sacrifice their children in hopes of "transforming" a school. It's just not going to happen.

It’s not the education. Any DCPS teacher could succeed in Tenleytown. It’s what the students bring with them. So send them back where I live not to Hearst or Hardy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know more about the 2022 review, and more specifically, when the new boundaries will be announced and/or put into effect? We're probably going to have to move around 2023 or so due to schools (we are EOTP with two young kids, our IB school is fine in the early grades but tapers off quickly). I'd love to time it around this because one of my biggest fears is buying somewhere based on schools and getting zoned out (Mt Pleasant specifically is a neighborhood I'd love to target but I'm too nervous about).

Bancroft is probably gone. It won’t be billingual and feed Deal. The MacFarland feeder families will want to pull it into their middle. It won’t be the WOTP families driving this, but other EOTP families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know more about the 2022 review, and more specifically, when the new boundaries will be announced and/or put into effect? We're probably going to have to move around 2023 or so due to schools (we are EOTP with two young kids, our IB school is fine in the early grades but tapers off quickly). I'd love to time it around this because one of my biggest fears is buying somewhere based on schools and getting zoned out (Mt Pleasant specifically is a neighborhood I'd love to target but I'm too nervous about).

The last process took about a year, with lots of public meetings, arguments and several versions of plans discussed.

That said, the players are different this time around, so if the review happens, it may or may not be managed the same way as the last one.

In the past, DCPS has allowed for lengthy grandfathering for families already in a feeder pattern or boundary that changes. So if you are truly concerned, I'd try to be enrolled in a school you want for the long haul in 2022 or 23 at the latest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Out-Of-Boundary thing is insane. End it. You renovate schools all over the district and still allow this ridiculousness.

Talk to our lovely Mayor

[Anonymous]

HS options are so sad -
Wilson - meh but best of the worst. I have a kid there now and believe me it is not that great. Almost all the elective classes are a joke. Language programs are very uneven and not that good. Also, recent Latin debacle.

McKinley Tech - pretty low performing application STEM magnet. Magnet in name only

Banneker - not great right now because of poor facilities. Academics are reasonable but doesn’t offer much else to round out the HS experience.

Walls - seems to work ok for some kids. Biggest thing they have going for them is they don’t get caught in the ever changing DCPS rules for comprehensive schools that really mess Wilson up from time to time

Bard/Coolidge - no thanks. Where will they find enough high performing kids to make this concept work? Also, need to wait for a few years to evaluate rather than being the test guinea pigs for DCPS poorly thought out ideas

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We will squeeze as many students into Deal and Wilson as physically possible regardless of the detrimental effect on the academic success of the students and emotional well-being of students, faculty and staff.

Well done, team. Well done.

This is just more bureaucratic bullshit from people appointed by a mediocre mayor who mouths platitudes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Out-Of-Boundary thing is insane. End it. You renovate schools all over the district and still allow this ridiculousness.

It is fascinating that if the OOB students at Deal were in a hypothetical school of their own, it would be the second biggest middle school in DC. If the the OOB high school students at Wilson were in their own hypothetical school, it would be the third largest high school in DC. The numbers are insane.

[Anonymous]

DCPS: “Dear white people,
Screw you.”