Bowser’s Shelters

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Using police to intimidate poor people is disgusting

Law enforcement is only “intimidation” to those who would break the law.

I’m sorry, I couldn’t hear you over the deafening sound of your white privilege.

I don’t understand that metaphor at all.

Don't even try

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Using police to intimidate poor people is disgusting

Law enforcement is only “intimidation” to those who would break the law.

It’s also intimidation to people who get stereotyped by the police as looking like someone who committed a crime, even if they did nothing wrong.

The “white privilege” comment was pointing out that your view is pretty one-sided and doesn’t reflect the experiences of many of the people you’re talking about.

Does anyone really think that taking drugs on the street or aggressive panhandling are good ideas?

We should all be in favor of enforcing quality of life offenses (the broken window theory). Fortunately, the Second District just got a new commander who is serious about policing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Mayor Bowser has closed DC General shelter (the site is being redeveloped for condos and mixed-use) and is building replacement shelters in each ward. While there may be some benefits to the plan (besides the benefits, of course, to the crony developers who get the rights to the DC General site), there will me other, spillover impacts on areas like Cathedral Heights and McLean Gatdens. From WaPo:

“Maurice ____ stepped out of a minivan at the D.C. General shelter for homeless families, opened the trunk and announced his wares — free syringes, condoms and Narcan, a brand of naloxone nasal inhaler — in a hoarse shout. Among the dozens who lined up was Renee ____, a resident of Southeast Washington.? ____ said she no longer uses heroin but has friends who do.”

I fully support bringing homeless persons and drug users to shelters in the better neighborhoods of the city.

It allows the residents of those neighborhoods get a better understanding of how their actions with regard to opposing taxes, gentrification, white privilege and institutional racism all work together to devastate the poor of this city.

Sometimes people need to have their noses rubbed in the messes they make, lest they be unaware of it. Keeping most of the homeless at DC general or 2nd and D concentrates them in areas where the people responsible for them being homeless never have to see the results of their handiwork. Far better those shelters be moved to Cleveland Park, Glover Park, Palisades, Foxhall, AU park and Chevy Chase.

At least they’re putting the shelter next to the police station so that the cops can ride herd. Hopefully the police will vigorously enforce the loitering and panhandling laws.

They don't enforce now and ward 3 has plenty of homeless, loiterers and panhandlers. I watched some dopey Wilson kid give a buck to some big guy outside CVS yesterday. Big guy could have made 500 bucks if he'd grabbed a shovel and moved some snow this weekend, but instead he he profiting off teens who have been brainwashed by too many homeless service projects. Big guy looked one hundred percent able bodied and of sound mind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mayor Bowser has closed DC General shelter (the site is being redeveloped for condos and mixed-use) and is building replacement shelters in each ward. While there may be some benefits to the plan (besides the benefits, of course, to the crony developers who get the rights to the DC General site), there will me other, spillover impacts on areas like Cathedral Heights and McLean Gatdens. From WaPo:

“Maurice ____ stepped out of a minivan at the D.C. General shelter for homeless families, opened the trunk and announced his wares — free syringes, condoms and Narcan, a brand of naloxone nasal inhaler — in a hoarse shout. Among the dozens who lined up was Renee ____, a resident of Southeast Washington.? ____ said she no longer uses heroin but has friends who do.”

I fully support bringing homeless persons and drug users to shelters in the better neighborhoods of the city.

It allows the residents of those neighborhoods get a better understanding of how their actions with regard to opposing taxes, gentrification, white privilege and institutional racism all work together to devastate the poor of this city.

Sometimes people need to have their noses rubbed in the messes they make, lest they be unaware of it. Keeping most of the homeless at DC general or 2nd and D concentrates them in areas where the people responsible for them being homeless never have to see the results of their handiwork. Far better those shelters be moved to Cleveland Park, Glover Park, Palisades, Foxhall, AU park and Chevy Chase.

At least they’re putting the shelter next to the police station so that the cops can ride herd. Hopefully the police will vigorously enforce the loitering and panhandling laws.

They don't enforce now and ward 3 has plenty of homeless, loiterers and panhandlers. I watched some dopey Wilson kid give a buck to some big guy outside CVS yesterday. Big guy could have made 500 bucks if he'd grabbed a shovel and moved some snow this weekend, but instead he he profiting off teens who have been brainwashed by too many homeless service projects. Big guy looked one hundred percent able bodied and of sound mind.

Shoveling snow is hard. Work in general is hard. Hanging out on a corner and getting a dozen dollars an hour from gullible passersby suffering from white guilt is easy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mayor Bowser has closed DC General shelter (the site is being redeveloped for condos and mixed-use) and is building replacement shelters in each ward. While there may be some benefits to the plan (besides the benefits, of course, to the crony developers who get the rights to the DC General site), there will me other, spillover impacts on areas like Cathedral Heights and McLean Gatdens. From WaPo:

“Maurice ____ stepped out of a minivan at the D.C. General shelter for homeless families, opened the trunk and announced his wares — free syringes, condoms and Narcan, a brand of naloxone nasal inhaler — in a hoarse shout. Among the dozens who lined up was Renee ____, a resident of Southeast Washington.? ____ said she no longer uses heroin but has friends who do.”

I fully support bringing homeless persons and drug users to shelters in the better neighborhoods of the city.

It allows the residents of those neighborhoods get a better understanding of how their actions with regard to opposing taxes, gentrification, white privilege and institutional racism all work together to devastate the poor of this city.

Sometimes people need to have their noses rubbed in the messes they make, lest they be unaware of it. Keeping most of the homeless at DC general or 2nd and D concentrates them in areas where the people responsible for them being homeless never have to see the results of their handiwork. Far better those shelters be moved to Cleveland Park, Glover Park, Palisades, Foxhall, AU park and Chevy Chase.

At least they’re putting the shelter next to the police station so that the cops can ride herd. Hopefully the police will vigorously enforce the loitering and panhandling laws.

They don't enforce now and ward 3 has plenty of homeless, loiterers and panhandlers. I watched some dopey Wilson kid give a buck to some big guy outside CVS yesterday. Big guy could have made 500 bucks if he'd grabbed a shovel and moved some snow this weekend, but instead he he profiting off teens who have been brainwashed by too many homeless service projects. Big guy looked one hundred percent able bodied and of sound mind.

Shoveling snow is hard. Work in general is hard. Hanging out on a corner and getting a dozen dollars an hour from gullible passersby suffering from white guilt is easy.

The social justice warriors and the forever-liberal-guilt crowd might not like this, but one of the many ways to address street homelessness is for the federal government to start a WPA-like program for homeless men. There may need to be an element of conscription, provided that government meets an obligation to meet basic needs. Create camps with decent shelter, medical care, training and activities, preferably out out the cities, and put folks to work rebuilding trails and parks, etc. Address their medical, substance, mental and even spiritual needs. Give them carpentry and construction skills that make them marketable and a hand up back into society. An approach like this worked for hobos in the 30s. Let's try it as one of a number of initiatives to address homelessness today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mayor Bowser has closed DC General shelter (the site is being redeveloped for condos and mixed-use) and is building replacement shelters in each ward. While there may be some benefits to the plan (besides the benefits, of course, to the crony developers who get the rights to the DC General site), there will me other, spillover impacts on areas like Cathedral Heights and McLean Gatdens. From WaPo:

“Maurice ____ stepped out of a minivan at the D.C. General shelter for homeless families, opened the trunk and announced his wares — free syringes, condoms and Narcan, a brand of naloxone nasal inhaler — in a hoarse shout. Among the dozens who lined up was Renee ____, a resident of Southeast Washington.? ____ said she no longer uses heroin but has friends who do.”

I fully support bringing homeless persons and drug users to shelters in the better neighborhoods of the city.

It allows the residents of those neighborhoods get a better understanding of how their actions with regard to opposing taxes, gentrification, white privilege and institutional racism all work together to devastate the poor of this city.

Sometimes people need to have their noses rubbed in the messes they make, lest they be unaware of it. Keeping most of the homeless at DC general or 2nd and D concentrates them in areas where the people responsible for them being homeless never have to see the results of their handiwork. Far better those shelters be moved to Cleveland Park, Glover Park, Palisades, Foxhall, AU park and Chevy Chase.

At least they’re putting the shelter next to the police station so that the cops can ride herd. Hopefully the police will vigorously enforce the loitering and panhandling laws.

They don't enforce now and ward 3 has plenty of homeless, loiterers and panhandlers. I watched some dopey Wilson kid give a buck to some big guy outside CVS yesterday. Big guy could have made 500 bucks if he'd grabbed a shovel and moved some snow this weekend, but instead he he profiting off teens who have been brainwashed by too many homeless service projects. Big guy looked one hundred percent able bodied and of sound mind.

Shoveling snow is hard. Work in general is hard. Hanging out on a corner and getting a dozen dollars an hour from gullible passersby suffering from white guilt is easy.

The social justice warriors and the forever-liberal-guilt crowd might not like this, but one of the many ways to address street homelessness is for the federal government to start a WPA-like program for homeless men. There may need to be an element of conscription, provided that government meets an obligation to meet basic needs. Create camps with decent shelter, medical care, training and activities, preferably out out the cities, and put folks to work rebuilding trails and parks, etc. Address their medical, substance, mental and even spiritual needs. Give them carpentry and construction skills that make them marketable and a hand up back into society. An approach like this worked for hobos in the 30s. Let's try it as one of a number of initiatives to address homelessness today.

+1.

[Anonymous]

“The Homeless Shelter at Cathedral Commons.”

Now that’s social justice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“The Homeless Shelter at Cathedral Commons.”

Now that’s social justice.

Is it true that the developer threw on a huge, unpermitted "recreation deck" that has had to be negotiated down in size? Meanwhile, none of the restaurants can get live music permits? This whole things is getting more and more bizarre. How does one book a room in this Melrose Place Shelter?


https://dc.curbed.com/2019/1/11/18175877/dc-homelessness-shelter-families-northwest-ward-3

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“The Homeless Shelter at Cathedral Commons.”

Now that’s social justice.

Is it true that the developer threw on a huge, unpermitted "recreation deck" that has had to be negotiated down in size? Meanwhile, none of the restaurants can get live music permits? This whole things is getting more and more bizarre. How does one book a room in this Melrose Place Shelter?


https://dc.curbed.com/2019/1/11/18175877/dc-homelessness-shelter-families-northwest-ward-3

Silver has a live music permit. But Silver’s challenge isn’t music, it’s food quality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“The Homeless Shelter at Cathedral Commons.”

Now that’s social justice.

Is it true that the developer threw on a huge, unpermitted "recreation deck" that has had to be negotiated down in size? Meanwhile, none of the restaurants can get live music permits? This whole things is getting more and more bizarre. How does one book a room in this Melrose Place Shelter?


https://dc.curbed.com/2019/1/11/18175877/dc-homelessness-shelter-families-northwest-ward-3

Silver has a live music permit. But Silver’s challenge isn’t music, it’s food quality.

+1. They should spend less time with the zoning inspector and more time with the health inspector!

[Anonymous]

So, I'm assuming the party terrace is for studying after class, with a bbq on the weekend for a weeks hard work? Ever since Clinton having requirements along with taxpayer funded assistance has been a pretty standard idea in the US. What is the study/work/training and/or counseling requirement for all of these shelter residents and how will the city manage and support it? Guessing the terrace will be fairly quiet of all the residents are working very hard to better themselves and their children's lives? Thanks for details of the requirements --

[Anonymous]

Temporary Family shelter means that children can stay with their mothers/fathers/grandparents/caregivers.

The majority of DC General homeless families are those who have lost shelter due to the closing of several subsidized housing complexes and a lack of available section 8 voucher accepting rental housing in the city.

Many of these families have one or more working parents that can no longer afford housing within the city boundaries, but may have grown up here for several generations.

The addiction story is real, but for every family with an addict parent, there are three without addiction issues, soley economic issues.

[Anonymous]

Let’s hope that the location of the Cathedral Commons homelss shelter smack dab next to the police station will cut down on the sort of street crime and antisocial behavior that usually go along with a public shelter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Temporary Family shelter means that children can stay with their mothers/fathers/grandparents/caregivers.

The majority of DC General homeless families are those who have lost shelter due to the closing of several subsidized housing complexes and a lack of available section 8 voucher accepting rental housing in the city.

Many of these families have one or more working parents that can no longer afford housing within the city boundaries, but may have grown up here for several generations.

The addiction story is real, but for every family with an addict parent, there are three without addiction issues, soley economic issues.

So, is work and saving $ a requirement for these residents then? And whats the city vision for moving them into non temporary housing if they have closed these subsidized complexes and there is a shortage of section 8?