Halloween Alternatives?

[Anonymous]

OP. 8:14 you got my inner monologue - trust me. I feel that way. Last year he was working so we sncuk out. Then when we came back we gave the candy we collected to kids who came to our house. She is young enough that she doesn’t remember to rat me out.

[Anonymous]

Op here. Yes muslim but liberal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Your husband is being ridiculous, as you seem to know. He seriously won't let her dress up as something completely innocuous and go get some candy from your neighbors? What a dick.

I'd just do it anyway. Screw him.

Don't take marriage advice from this person, lol.

OP, I like 7:58's ideas, would any of that work?

[Anonymous]

Bad marriage decision OP, and now teaching your daughter to lie to get over it. I’m not sure how you get out of this one and all the other problems that are going to come up over the next 18-20 years. But you already know that, I’m sure.

[Anonymous]

Dress her up as a date and say she’s Ramadan. Or a sunset, and call her costume Maghreb. Your husband is being an ass.

[Anonymous]

OP here. 8:26 - careful about judging a situation of which you are not fully aware.

[Anonymous]

Purim?

[Anonymous]

Go to butler's orchard and then out for ice cream.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Go to butler's orchard and then out for ice cream.

How is this any less satanic than dressing up as a butterfly and collecting a few pieces of candy?

I get not wanting to participate in the gore or ghost part of Halloween, But for the life of me, I'll never understand projecting your irrational beliefs about trick or treating on a kid.

[Anonymous]

SkateZone in Crofton has an Un-Halloween Skate on the 31st. It is geared towards Christian Fundamentalists and will be playing Gospel music all night.

My DD went to SkateZone over the summer and really enjoyed it. Just a different option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Go to butler's orchard and then out for ice cream.

How is this any less satanic than dressing up as a butterfly and collecting a few pieces of candy?

I get not wanting to participate in the gore or ghost part of Halloween, But for the life of me, I'll never understand projecting your irrational beliefs about trick or treating on a kid.

cant speak for muslims or anti satanists, but as a Jew with mixed thoughts on Halloween (we fended it off for a few years aside from costume contests, but finanally gave in to trick or treating) the difference is that one is an acknowledgement of a Saints Day (or pagan festival if you prefer) even if devoid of the pagan elements - everyone knows you don't go out trick or treating in May, or even in September.

You could go for ice cream any time, and to an orchard whenever apples are in season.

I can accept that fellow shul going Jews go all out for Halloween, but I will never understand the need to put down other people's harmless religious scruples as irrational.

[Anonymous]

I'm a muslim who went trick or treating as child as did all of my Muslim friends but the anti-Halloween fundamentalist Christians have influenced the ppl at my mosque enough that its a no go in our religious community at this point. I take my kids to their school fall festivals and let them do the parade. On actual Halloween I get together with a bunch of friends and do a big playdate or we get fun snacks and watch a movie. I've explained to my kids that All Hallow's eve is the 'eve' of All Saints Day and so its kinda like christmas eve and we have our own holidays. It was a difficult decision for me since I grew up loving halloween and I think its a bit ridiculous but I'm not teaching my kids to lie to their grandparents and friends at the masjid. Trick or treating is not worth that. My kids accepted the 'we don't do halloween bc its not ours' thing more easily than i did! OTH, my husband and I are on the same page & we would come to a compromise if we weren't and at the end of the day as the mother I have 4 times the right as the father to make tarbiyat decisions regarding our children and any well read Muslim husband would know that. My kids would not be ok with lying to their dad either, that just sounds like those uneducated villager women who immigrated here in the 1950's- my parents used to avoid those ppl like the plague. You have to figure out as a family how you are going maintain your Muslim faith while being a minority and what is important to you and do that together, your husband doesn't just get to unilaterally make decisions. What about prom, mixers? sleep overs, all of these things are in the future, are you just going to lie and sneak around- on your husband, you deserve better than that, a muslim woman is accorded respect in her home and has the authority to make parenting decisions and I'm a hijab and burqa wearing Muslim woman who prays 5 times a day and sometimes tahajjud- living my faith is incredibly important and i don't agree with women imams.muezzins etc etc so I'm not some kind of radical feminist, these are the values my parents from Pakistan passed on to me. I feel sad that in this day and age there are women who are in marriages like these- husbands like yours who think they can just make unilateral decisions like this are committing a kind of shirk and they should be reminded of this, if your husband wants to be a believer so bad that h is against halloween than he should also realize that he isn't the tinpot god of his home but a partner in parenting your daughter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Go to butler's orchard and then out for ice cream.

How is this any less satanic than dressing up as a butterfly and collecting a few pieces of candy?

I get not wanting to participate in the gore or ghost part of Halloween, But for the life of me, I'll never understand projecting your irrational beliefs about trick or treating on a kid.

cant speak for muslims or anti satanists, but as a Jew with mixed thoughts on Halloween (we fended it off for a few years aside from costume contests, but finanally gave in to trick or treating) the difference is that one is an acknowledgement of a Saints Day (or pagan festival if you prefer) even if devoid of the pagan elements - everyone knows you don't go out trick or treating in May, or even in September.

You could go for ice cream any time, and to an orchard whenever apples are in season.

I can accept that fellow shul going Jews go all out for Halloween, but I will never understand the need to put down other people's harmless religious scruples as irrational.

You could also theoretically dress up as a butterfly and ask people for candy any time. Bottom line is dressing up in a costume and trick or treating is no more satanic, than making snowman cookies around Christmas is, concerning celebrating the birth of Jesus.

Which we did, growing up Muslim - we did not celebrate Christmas in any religious sense, but I'm so grateful my parents weren't so blinded by their irrational fear that they didn't allow us to partake in seasonal fun like making and decorating snowmen sugar cookies in December.

Honestly, these fundie types (of all religions) are doing the opposite of what they feel, by making such a taboo about things like Halloween. They're highlighting the gore part, by drawing such a strict line. That's what taboos do - they have the opposite intended effect.

[Anonymous]

It sounds like you just need to get away from trick or treaters and Halloween excitement that night. How about a movie or dinner and a fun activity that your daughter would like- bowling, indoor Minigolf, etc? Indoor pools probably wouldn’t be crowded that evening. If you have likeminded friends it could be a group outing.