Grades for average kid at Deal

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe this is why Wilson does not have NMSF? Students are not given enough opportunities for advanced coursework in middle school?

I have heard of one 6th grader taking 10th grade math. And I know of a couple 7th graders taking Geometry.

[Anonymous]

My DD is in 7th grade now.

She has some learning challenges and I would very much describe her as an average student. She got a mix of As and Bs last year, more As than Bs. (on average 4 As and 2 Bs, roughly, over the year). I thought she would struggle more, but there are a lot of supports in 6th grade, lots of retakes, lots of chances to redo homework, or hand in late, or do makeups.

(at one point i said to her, hey, you could get straight As if you did X, Y and Z and she said, and I quote, nah.)

So far, a few classes in 7th are kicking her butt, but the bulk are in the A/B range.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DS is at Deal - currently in 7th grade. Let's pretend that PARCC is a test that effectively assesses a student's mastery of content. My DS got a low 5 on both ELA and math in 6th grade. A 5 on PARCC is exceeding expectations of learning standards.

For ELA, with a low 5, 26% of the class scored higher.
For Math with a low 5, 20% of the class scored higher.

The school is clearly doing something to get over 20% of the student body to exceed learning expectations -even without a ton of homework.

For Grades, my child was not on Principal's Honor Roll.

lol you can't be serious. Those kids are getting high grades because of their family background (college educated parents/higher SES) in spite of the school not because of it

DCPS is a joke they have to dumb down the curriculum across the board because so many students come from poor/uneducated backgrounds

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DS is at Deal - currently in 7th grade. Let's pretend that PARCC is a test that effectively assesses a student's mastery of content. My DS got a low 5 on both ELA and math in 6th grade. A 5 on PARCC is exceeding expectations of learning standards.

For ELA, with a low 5, 26% of the class scored higher.
For Math with a low 5, 20% of the class scored higher.

The school is clearly doing something to get over 20% of the student body to exceed learning expectations -even without a ton of homework.

For Grades, my child was not on Principal's Honor Roll.

lol you can't be serious. Those kids are getting high grades because of their family background (college educated parents/higher SES) in spite of the school not because of it

DCPS is a joke they have to dumb down the curriculum across the board because so many students come from poor/uneducated backgrounds

Aren’t you the busy poster this morning?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s too bad if 1/5 kids have fully mastered it because there are likely many who are not being challenged.

Do you really think most middle schoolers should not be doing well in school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe this is why Wilson does not have NMSF? Students are not given enough opportunities for advanced coursework in middle school?

What specifically in the Deal middle school curriculum would you change? I'm betting you can't answer because you have no idea what Deal teaches.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DS is at Deal - currently in 7th grade. Let's pretend that PARCC is a test that effectively assesses a student's mastery of content. My DS got a low 5 on both ELA and math in 6th grade. A 5 on PARCC is exceeding expectations of learning standards.

For ELA, with a low 5, 26% of the class scored higher.
For Math with a low 5, 20% of the class scored higher.

The school is clearly doing something to get over 20% of the student body to exceed learning expectations -even without a ton of homework.

For Grades, my child was not on Principal's Honor Roll.

Good way to look at it. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe this is why Wilson does not have NMSF? Students are not given enough opportunities for advanced coursework in middle school?

Every year there are many Wilson students who score very well (perfect or near perfect) on the SAT/ACT exam.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DS is at Deal - currently in 7th grade. Let's pretend that PARCC is a test that effectively assesses a student's mastery of content. My DS got a low 5 on both ELA and math in 6th grade. A 5 on PARCC is exceeding expectations of learning standards.

For ELA, with a low 5, 26% of the class scored higher.
For Math with a low 5, 20% of the class scored higher.

The school is clearly doing something to get over 20% of the student body to exceed learning expectations -even without a ton of homework.

For Grades, my child was not on Principal's Honor Roll.

The majority of students at Deal come in already high, so what are they doing that is so great?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DS is at Deal - currently in 7th grade. Let's pretend that PARCC is a test that effectively assesses a student's mastery of content. My DS got a low 5 on both ELA and math in 6th grade. A 5 on PARCC is exceeding expectations of learning standards.

For ELA, with a low 5, 26% of the class scored higher.
For Math with a low 5, 20% of the class scored higher.

The school is clearly doing something to get over 20% of the student body to exceed learning expectations -even without a ton of homework.

For Grades, my child was not on Principal's Honor Roll.

The majority of students at Deal come in already high, so what are they doing that is so great?

They moved more kids to a "5" than where they started. So I am making some broad assumptions for the data and the cohort
1. Assumption all students who took PARCC at a feeder school (2016-2017) were tested at Deal 2017-2018 [we all know this is not a valid assumption - but lets use it for analysis purposes]
2. Results on PARCC from 5th to 6th grade have no major change (for example - this is a POV that the 1st year children test, scores are lower than actual knowledge b/c they are not used to taking std tests. What I am trying to say is that if this is true, the "learning" has occurred and there is no performance step change between 5th and 6th grade. That the score is a "true" reflection of core knowledge)
3. The weighted average of ELA scores for 2016-2017 for the feeder schools for the % of children who scored a 5 is 17.5%
4. For Deal for 2017 -2018, the % 0f kids who scored a 5 for ELA is 35%

I know not all the assumptions are valid - but the % of children who scored a 5 doubled from score when they were in 5th grade.

Congrats to the Deal ELA teachers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DS is at Deal - currently in 7th grade. Let's pretend that PARCC is a test that effectively assesses a student's mastery of content. My DS got a low 5 on both ELA and math in 6th grade. A 5 on PARCC is exceeding expectations of learning standards.

For ELA, with a low 5, 26% of the class scored higher.
For Math with a low 5, 20% of the class scored higher.

The school is clearly doing something to get over 20% of the student body to exceed learning expectations -even without a ton of homework.

For Grades, my child was not on Principal's Honor Roll.

The majority of students at Deal come in already high, so what are they doing that is so great?

They moved more kids to a "5" than where they started. So I am making some broad assumptions for the data and the cohort
1. Assumption all students who took PARCC at a feeder school (2016-2017) were tested at Deal 2017-2018 [we all know this is not a valid assumption - but lets use it for analysis purposes]
2. Results on PARCC from 5th to 6th grade have no major change (for example - this is a POV that the 1st year children test, scores are lower than actual knowledge b/c they are not used to taking std tests. What I am trying to say is that if this is true, the "learning" has occurred and there is no performance step change between 5th and 6th grade. That the score is a "true" reflection of core knowledge)
3. The weighted average of ELA scores for 2016-2017 for the feeder schools for the % of children who scored a 5 is 17.5%
4. For Deal for 2017 -2018, the % 0f kids who scored a 5 for ELA is 35%

I know not all the assumptions are valid - but the % of children who scored a 5 doubled from score when they were in 5th grade.

Congrats to the Deal ELA teachers

The above is not a valid methodology. Look at the change from 6th to 7th, and from 7th to 8th year over year. And it's probably most important to see if the % of students scoring 3 or below is getting smaller from 6th to 8th.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DS is at Deal - currently in 7th grade. Let's pretend that PARCC is a test that effectively assesses a student's mastery of content. My DS got a low 5 on both ELA and math in 6th grade. A 5 on PARCC is exceeding expectations of learning standards.

For ELA, with a low 5, 26% of the class scored higher.
For Math with a low 5, 20% of the class scored higher.

The school is clearly doing something to get over 20% of the student body to exceed learning expectations -even without a ton of homework.

For Grades, my child was not on Principal's Honor Roll.

The majority of students at Deal come in already high, so what are they doing that is so great?

They moved more kids to a "5" than where they started. So I am making some broad assumptions for the data and the cohort
1. Assumption all students who took PARCC at a feeder school (2016-2017) were tested at Deal 2017-2018 [we all know this is not a valid assumption - but lets use it for analysis purposes]
2. Results on PARCC from 5th to 6th grade have no major change (for example - this is a POV that the 1st year children test, scores are lower than actual knowledge b/c they are not used to taking std tests. What I am trying to say is that if this is true, the "learning" has occurred and there is no performance step change between 5th and 6th grade. That the score is a "true" reflection of core knowledge)
3. The weighted average of ELA scores for 2016-2017 for the feeder schools for the % of children who scored a 5 is 17.5%
4. For Deal for 2017 -2018, the % 0f kids who scored a 5 for ELA is 35%

I know not all the assumptions are valid - but the % of children who scored a 5 doubled from score when they were in 5th grade.

Congrats to the Deal ELA teachers

You clearly don't have a clue! Yay for Deal no wonder the kids EOTP can't learn it's the Deal teachers who are so great! Considering all the advantages that Deal has it's shocking that if you look at the stats the students who are non-special populations are doing so terrible. Look at the data!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DS is at Deal - currently in 7th grade. Let's pretend that PARCC is a test that effectively assesses a student's mastery of content. My DS got a low 5 on both ELA and math in 6th grade. A 5 on PARCC is exceeding expectations of learning standards.

For ELA, with a low 5, 26% of the class scored higher.
For Math with a low 5, 20% of the class scored higher.

The school is clearly doing something to get over 20% of the student body to exceed learning expectations -even without a ton of homework.

For Grades, my child was not on Principal's Honor Roll.

The majority of students at Deal come in already high, so what are they doing that is so great?

They moved more kids to a "5" than where they started. So I am making some broad assumptions for the data and the cohort
1. Assumption all students who took PARCC at a feeder school (2016-2017) were tested at Deal 2017-2018 [we all know this is not a valid assumption - but lets use it for analysis purposes]
2. Results on PARCC from 5th to 6th grade have no major change (for example - this is a POV that the 1st year children test, scores are lower than actual knowledge b/c they are not used to taking std tests. What I am trying to say is that if this is true, the "learning" has occurred and there is no performance step change between 5th and 6th grade. That the score is a "true" reflection of core knowledge)
3. The weighted average of ELA scores for 2016-2017 for the feeder schools for the % of children who scored a 5 is 17.5%
4. For Deal for 2017 -2018, the % 0f kids who scored a 5 for ELA is 35%

I know not all the assumptions are valid - but the % of children who scored a 5 doubled from score when they were in 5th grade.

Congrats to the Deal ELA teachers

The above is not a valid methodology. Look at the change from 6th to 7th, and from 7th to 8th year over year. And it's probably most important to see if the % of students scoring 3 or below is getting smaller from 6th to 8th.

+1000 and overall scores for students at Deal, Wilson, and other so called highly regarded DCPS schools are the not even that great!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DS is at Deal - currently in 7th grade. Let's pretend that PARCC is a test that effectively assesses a student's mastery of content. My DS got a low 5 on both ELA and math in 6th grade. A 5 on PARCC is exceeding expectations of learning standards.

For ELA, with a low 5, 26% of the class scored higher.
For Math with a low 5, 20% of the class scored higher.

The school is clearly doing something to get over 20% of the student body to exceed learning expectations -even without a ton of homework.

For Grades, my child was not on Principal's Honor Roll.

The majority of students at Deal come in already high, so what are they doing that is so great?

They moved more kids to a "5" than where they started. So I am making some broad assumptions for the data and the cohort
1. Assumption all students who took PARCC at a feeder school (2016-2017) were tested at Deal 2017-2018 [we all know this is not a valid assumption - but lets use it for analysis purposes]
2. Results on PARCC from 5th to 6th grade have no major change (for example - this is a POV that the 1st year children test, scores are lower than actual knowledge b/c they are not used to taking std tests. What I am trying to say is that if this is true, the "learning" has occurred and there is no performance step change between 5th and 6th grade. That the score is a "true" reflection of core knowledge)
3. The weighted average of ELA scores for 2016-2017 for the feeder schools for the % of children who scored a 5 is 17.5%
4. For Deal for 2017 -2018, the % 0f kids who scored a 5 for ELA is 35%

I know not all the assumptions are valid - but the % of children who scored a 5 doubled from score when they were in 5th grade.

Congrats to the Deal ELA teachers

The above is not a valid methodology. Look at the change from 6th to 7th, and from 7th to 8th year over year. And it's probably most important to see if the % of students scoring 3 or below is getting smaller from 6th to 8th.

+1000 and overall scores for students at Deal, Wilson, and other so called highly regarded DCPS schools are the not even that great!

How are things in Arlington?