Travel soccer parents - you’re the reason US soccer is failing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An American married to Johan Cruyff’s daughter who runs the prestigious TOVO academy in Barcelona. He predicted Spain ranked 20th eclipsing US women. US women have more registered female soccer players than the entire planet combined. California alone has more players than Spain...and it’s happened.

As he said US women’s “fragile advantage in athleticism will wilt in the face of intelligence”.

We still have people denying anything is wrong. With those shocking numbers—our absolute glut of female soccer players compared to the rest of the entire World—it’s a crying shame. Same losers are running the women’s program and they have the numbers the men don’t have because they aren’t competing with Football, Baseball, Basketball. What is the women’s excuse?!?!?!!!

Oh yea, let’s blame it on the parents.

F@ck you Youth Soccer Federation. YOU are the problem, not parents. You built this myth and preyed on people unfamiliar with the sport.

I always knew you were a piece of sh@t because I grew up in a soccer household trained by the Dutch. I don’t put my kids in the system. They also trained privately for a good portion of youth until now as teens as we turned our back on the shitty travel system. But, how is your average American supposed to know you are selling a bag of lies?

I am writing my letter to the author of that article now. How dare you blame parents..and f@ck you too Hope Solo. You whiny loser, bad sport saying Sweden didn’t play pretty like you after your loss to them in the Olympics. Go beat down your nephew again.

I think you think that soccer is more important in the US than it actually is.

Soccer is a little kids sport in the US.

It is for parents of toddlers and preschoolers that want pictures to post on social media.

It is for elementary kids whose parents want to say they are on a travel team.

Soccer is a recreational sport in the US, targeted towards kids. Period.

Soccer is not a sport for older kids or a sport that people are interested in watching at the pro level.

Soccer fills an important niche as a kids sport.

That is fine PP.

Soccer is a sport you move on from as you get older, not a sport you move into or stick with.

[Anonymous]

^ ha! Ok, I look forward to watching your son in the nfl or nba...riiight.

Very few kids play any sport past high school. Soccer isn’t what it was when you were a child. But, glad there are players that don’t give a shit out there on the pitch. Explains why they can’t stick with it. The sport has a way of weeding out.

[Anonymous]

So what are people implying, that we stop having our kids play travel and just stick with rec leagues?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:An American married to Johan Cruyff’s daughter who runs the prestigious TOVO academy in Barcelona. He predicted Spain ranked 20th eclipsing US women. US women have more registered female soccer players than the entire planet combined. California alone has more players than Spain...and it’s happened.

As he said US women’s “fragile advantage in athleticism will wilt in the face of intelligence”.

We still have people denying anything is wrong. With those shocking numbers—our absolute glut of female soccer players compared to the rest of the entire World—it’s a crying shame. Same losers are running the women’s program and they have the numbers the men don’t have because they aren’t competing with Football, Baseball, Basketball. What is the women’s excuse?!?!?!!!

Oh yea, let’s blame it on the parents.

F@ck you Youth Soccer Federation. YOU are the problem, not parents. You built this myth and preyed on people unfamiliar with the sport.

I always knew you were a piece of sh@t because I grew up in a soccer household trained by the Dutch. I don’t put my kids in the system. They also trained privately for a good portion of youth until now as teens as we turned our back on the shitty travel system. But, how is your average American supposed to know you are selling a bag of lies?

I am writing my letter to the author of that article now. How dare you blame parents..and f@ck you too Hope Solo. You whiny loser, bad sport saying Sweden didn’t play pretty like you after your loss to them in the Olympics. Go beat down your nephew again.

I agree. We didn't put our girl in DA or ECNL because seriously we already spend 4-5 days a week on soccer as it is without driving to Ohio or NY every weekend for a game or two and she is on her HS team. There is plenty of competition here in the DC/Baltimore/Richmond area if only the leagues would merge and the best kids would actually play each other instead of each club having a few top players. The coaches think they're gods because they played college soccer or a foreign second-rate pro team for a couple years.

[Anonymous]

If you had seriously considered DA, you would know that it is nothing like "driving to Ohio or NY every weekend for a game or two". Another urban legend, on par with the one on DA teams only selecting athletic players...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So what are people implying, that we stop having our kids play travel and just stick with rec leagues?

Figure out what you’re paying for and act accordingly. Lots of travel parents have been sold a bill of goods. Although to be honest, having these parents return en masse to the rec sidelines sounds like a nightmare waiting to happen for the rec leagues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what are people implying, that we stop having our kids play travel and just stick with rec leagues?

Figure out what you’re paying for and act accordingly. Lots of travel parents have been sold a bill of goods. Although to be honest, having these parents return en masse to the rec sidelines sounds like a nightmare waiting to happen for the rec leagues.

Rec sidelines are worse than any travel sideline by a factor of a 1000.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^ ha! Ok, I look forward to watching your son in the nfl or nba...riiight.

Very few kids play any sport past high school. Soccer isn’t what it was when you were a child. But, glad there are players that don’t give a shit out there on the pitch. Explains why they can’t stick with it. The sport has a way of weeding out.

You are really too emotionally invested in this as evident from all of your profanity.

It is a kids sport and one that is not really important in this country beyond the youth level, and certainly not once you get out of high school and college.

There is very little market for pro soccer in this country.

Travel soccer starts too young and youth soccer starts too young (preschool teams are everywhere).

Soccer has branded itself as a little kids sport in this country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An American married to Johan Cruyff’s daughter who runs the prestigious TOVO academy in Barcelona. He predicted Spain ranked 20th eclipsing US women. US women have more registered female soccer players than the entire planet combined. California alone has more players than Spain...and it’s happened.

As he said US women’s “fragile advantage in athleticism will wilt in the face of intelligence”.

We still have people denying anything is wrong. With those shocking numbers—our absolute glut of female soccer players compared to the rest of the entire World—it’s a crying shame. Same losers are running the women’s program and they have the numbers the men don’t have because they aren’t competing with Football, Baseball, Basketball. What is the women’s excuse?!?!?!!!

Oh yea, let’s blame it on the parents.

F@ck you Youth Soccer Federation. YOU are the problem, not parents. You built this myth and preyed on people unfamiliar with the sport.

I always knew you were a piece of sh@t because I grew up in a soccer household trained by the Dutch. I don’t put my kids in the system. They also trained privately for a good portion of youth until now as teens as we turned our back on the shitty travel system. But, how is your average American supposed to know you are selling a bag of lies?

I am writing my letter to the author of that article now. How dare you blame parents..and f@ck you too Hope Solo. You whiny loser, bad sport saying Sweden didn’t play pretty like you after your loss to them in the Olympics. Go beat down your nephew again.

I agree. We didn't put our girl in DA or ECNL because seriously we already spend 4-5 days a week on soccer as it is without driving to Ohio or NY every weekend for a game or two and she is on her HS team. There is plenty of competition here in the DC/Baltimore/Richmond area if only the leagues would merge and the best kids would actually play each other instead of each club having a few top players. The coaches think they're gods because they played college soccer or a foreign second-rate pro team for a couple years.

I always laugh at these comments about the far away lands kids travel every weekend. They act like there are zero local DA or ECNL teams and every game is an away game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ ha! Ok, I look forward to watching your son in the nfl or nba...riiight.

Very few kids play any sport past high school. Soccer isn’t what it was when you were a child. But, glad there are players that don’t give a shit out there on the pitch. Explains why they can’t stick with it. The sport has a way of weeding out.

You are really too emotionally invested in this as evident from all of your profanity.

It is a kids sport and one that is not really important in this country beyond the youth level, and certainly not once you get out of high school and college.

There is very little market for pro soccer in this country.

Travel soccer starts too young and youth soccer starts too young (preschool teams are everywhere).

Soccer has branded itself as a little kids sport in this country.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mls/2018/03/11/atlanta-united-dc-united-mls-attendance-record/415386002/

[Anonymous]

In other countries the pro clubs pay the youth clubs when they develop and train a kid that goes pro. In the US that is forbidden.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An American married to Johan Cruyff’s daughter who runs the prestigious TOVO academy in Barcelona. He predicted Spain ranked 20th eclipsing US women. US women have more registered female soccer players than the entire planet combined. California alone has more players than Spain...and it’s happened.

As he said US women’s “fragile advantage in athleticism will wilt in the face of intelligence”.

We still have people denying anything is wrong. With those shocking numbers—our absolute glut of female soccer players compared to the rest of the entire World—it’s a crying shame. Same losers are running the women’s program and they have the numbers the men don’t have because they aren’t competing with Football, Baseball, Basketball. What is the women’s excuse?!?!?!!!

Oh yea, let’s blame it on the parents.

F@ck you Youth Soccer Federation. YOU are the problem, not parents. You built this myth and preyed on people unfamiliar with the sport.

I always knew you were a piece of sh@t because I grew up in a soccer household trained by the Dutch. I don’t put my kids in the system. They also trained privately for a good portion of youth until now as teens as we turned our back on the shitty travel system. But, how is your average American supposed to know you are selling a bag of lies?

I am writing my letter to the author of that article now. How dare you blame parents..and f@ck you too Hope Solo. You whiny loser, bad sport saying Sweden didn’t play pretty like you after your loss to them in the Olympics. Go beat down your nephew again.

I think you think that soccer is more important in the US than it actually is.

Soccer is a little kids sport in the US.

It is for parents of toddlers and preschoolers that want pictures to post on social media.

It is for elementary kids whose parents want to say they are on a travel team.

Soccer is a recreational sport in the US, targeted towards kids. Period.

Soccer is not a sport for older kids or a sport that people are interested in watching at the pro level.

Soccer fills an important niche as a kids sport.

That is fine PP.

Yup, exactly. I'm unclear why youth sports is supposed to be responsible for the success or failure of the US national team. You wouldn't blame the failure of US basketball on your local county basketball league.
Soccer is growing in popularity for kids. That's fine and great. I don't know of any parent on the sidelines of the zillions of grade school soccer games around the country who thinks their kid is going to end up playing against manchester united because he's on the U11 travel team.

[Anonymous]

FHS. My youngest is in travel, but only within 60 miles of home field. Keeps costs down. Why travel over rec? Because I wanted him to learn more than he can from volunteer mom coach that played soccer 20 years ago. I have no desire for him to become a professional soccer player. But I want him to actually learn some soccer skills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In other countries the pro clubs pay the youth clubs when they develop and train a kid that goes pro. In the US that is forbidden.

The systems are fundamentally different. Why would we think we can compete against that? makes no sense. When youth soccer talent is worth good cash money, youth soccer talent will be found and developed. But we dont do that and then is not necessarily a bad thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ ha! Ok, I look forward to watching your son in the nfl or nba...riiight.

Very few kids play any sport past high school. Soccer isn’t what it was when you were a child. But, glad there are players that don’t give a shit out there on the pitch. Explains why they can’t stick with it. The sport has a way of weeding out.

You are really too emotionally invested in this as evident from all of your profanity.

It is a kids sport and one that is not really important in this country beyond the youth level, and certainly not once you get out of high school and college.

There is very little market for pro soccer in this country.

Travel soccer starts too young and youth soccer starts too young (preschool teams are everywhere).

Soccer has branded itself as a little kids sport in this country.

That may change, my friend. 'Merica isn't going to look the same in the future.

Among the minority populations, the greatest growth is projected for multiracial populations, Asians and Hispanics with 2018–2060 growth rates of 175, 93, and 85 percent, respectively.

The market for soccer will continue to grow as well....and, hopefully, by then we will get our sh*t worked out.