Sudden onset of food sensitivity? And if so, which one?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:my youngest boys 10 and 12 are now reacting to all stone fruit..even asian pears no clue why.


It maybe related to hayfever. I had severe hayfever as a kid, developed into an irritated throat after eating tree fruits, rice of any kind and some vegetables like carrots. Basically I have issues with a lot of raw fruits and vegetables (which I love) now, but my hayfever has subsided now that I'm an adult. Interestingly I don't have the reaction if those foods are processed. You might look at articles about apple allergies.


wow interesting,thanks. I do not think they have hay fever, or rather it has not been looked into but do have seasonal allergies to pollen and grass, also have eczema.


sorry pp here..meant to say that they tend to get red, itchy eyes and congestion but not like their father who has hay fever and is a mess almost all year.
Anonymous
Where are you getting the pizza from? I sometimes have major stomach issues after eating "fancy" pizza with a lot of olive oil.

Olive oil has a laxative effect on some people, and in a few people, that effect is really pronounced.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Where are you getting the pizza from? I sometimes have major stomach issues after eating "fancy" pizza with a lot of olive oil.

Olive oil has a laxative effect on some people, and in a few people, that effect is really pronounced.


PP here. I also sometimes have stomach issues for the same reason with Mediterranean food, like dips or salads with a lot of EVOO.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Where are you getting the pizza from? I sometimes have major stomach issues after eating "fancy" pizza with a lot of olive oil.

Olive oil has a laxative effect on some people, and in a few people, that effect is really pronounced.


It’s been a range of quality local places, Whole Foods, Pizza Hut...issues with all of them but not every time. We’ve had a weekly pizza night for a long time, and this is a recent (as of this summer) development. We cook with a lot of olive oil and haven’t noticed any issues, but I’ll add it to my list of suspects.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It could be an allergy to a spice in the pizza (onion, garlic.) Do any of the pizzas contain egg?


No idea. DD eats eggs for breakfast 3-4 days per week, though, and no issues.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm an earlier PP -- are you sure the problem is gluten / dairy? My aunt became allergic to green peppers, and so we didn't have that as a topping when she ordered a pizza with us.


Nope, I’m not sure of anything. Pizza is the only pattern I’ve noticed, and I’m flummoxed because DD eats cheeseburgers (gluten in the bun and cheese on burger) with no problem. She eats tomatoes with no problem. She drinks milk like it’s her job - no problem. Still, I think that, in addition to keeping a diary of incidents, we’ll try pizza with gluten free crust this week. Not sure she’ll even try a cheeseless pizza, but we’ll see.
Anonymous
What good tests exist for food sensitivities or allergies? My daughter has developed sensitivities tondairy. I seem to have reaction to palm oil. But are there tests to establish this ?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What good tests exist for food sensitivities or allergies? My daughter has developed sensitivities tondairy. I seem to have reaction to palm oil. But are there tests to establish this ?[/quote

There are skin prick and blood tests that can tell you if it's a true allergy. ]
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:What good tests exist for food sensitivities or allergies? My daughter has developed sensitivities tondairy. I seem to have reaction to palm oil. But are there tests to establish this ?[/quote

There are skin prick and blood tests that can tell you if it's a true allergy. ]


Intolerances are different from allergies, and not well understood IMO. (IANAD, just a celiac parent who has done a lot of reading in this area.)

-Dairy intolerance falls in two main buckets: lactose (milk sugars), and casein (milk proteins). There is a breath test for lactose intolerance. There is no test that I'm aware of for casein intolerance, but you could A/B test by using regular milk for a week, then A2 brand milk for a week. (A2 has a different kind of casein protein from the one found in most US milk.)

Lactose intolerance is nbd; you can just take lactaid and figure out what degree of lactose you can tolerate in foods (butter and kefir have low/zero, yogurt has low/some, milk has lots unless it's lactaid brand.) Note however that lactose intolerance can be a symptom of celiac disease, because the lactase is made at the tips of the villi in the small intestine, which is significantly affected by the autoimmune response in celiac.

- Gluten intolerance is different from wheat allergy, and likewise falls into two categories: celiac disease (not really an intolerance - rather, an autoimmune condition triggered by gluten, affects ~1% of the population), and non-celiac gluten intolerance/non-celiac gluten sensitivity (thought to affect more, but hard to determine because there's no biomarker so it's a diagnosis of exclusion).
Gluten is shorthand for a protein contained in wheat, barley, and rye. (Fun fact: some celiacs react to the protein in oats (avenin), even certified GF oats. GF oats are a thing because regular oats are often grown next to and/or processed/transported with the same equipment as used for wheat, so you have to assume that unlabeled oats are almost certainly cross-contaminated.)
There are biomarkers for CD - several different types of blood test (though a negative blood test doesn't mean you don't have it), a genetic marker for susceptibility (which about 30% of the population has, so it's used more to rule out CD than to confirm it), and biopsy-confirmed damage (biopsies taken through an endoscopy).
Because it's an autoimmune condition, CD is lifelong and people with it can have a flareup triggered by ridiculously small levels of gluten (like, using the same cutting board or tongs) - the limit for "gluten free" is 20 parts per _million_. It's a pain in the neck - most restaurants are clueless, so eating out is risky, and the lifestyle gluten free people make many others skeptical about whether your food really needs to be GF (or are you just a flake). Diagnosis requires you to be on gluten for a while (anywhere from 2 to 12 weeks depending on who you listen to); if you've been GF for a while, it will be hard to go back on, so take care of any screening before going GF. Testing is important because a CD diagnosis means heightened risk for other autoimmune conditions; on the other hand, it also means that schools, workplaces, etc. will listen to you about the GF diet because you'll have a doctor's note in hand.
NCGS/NCGI is less well understood and still debated in some circles; IMO it's real but this is based on anecdata and observation (plus, the study that came out a year or so ago claiming to disprove it was based on a small number of people, and IIRC had some questionable design aspects as well).
For both CD and NCGI/NCGS, symptoms are not confined to GI issues; headaches/migraines, skin reactions, behavioral effects (depression, anxiety, irritability), and something like 300 other symptoms have been associated with celiac, and similar (though maybe not as rigorously) with NCGI/NCGS.
There is no "lactaid" equivalent for gluten; you just have to avoid it, super-strictly if you have celiac. Be ready to be surprised how many random products carry the " ... may contain wheat" disclaimer.
Some believe there to be a link between gluten and other autoimmune conditions (Hashimoto's thyroiditis, MS, etc.), so some authorities recommend that people with those issues go GF. I don't know if there are studies one way or the other.

- FODMAPs, Crohn's, IBS, IBD are other GI issues/conditions that might be affected by gluten, dairy, etc. so don't self-diagnose - get a referral to a GI who is knowledgeable and talk to them. (Celiac bulletin boards have plenty of horror stories about clueless GIs - which is understandable, in that not every GI is up on the latest science on every condition, but nonetheless something to be aware of.)


Anonymous
A reaction isn't always related to the very last food eaten-- it could be that it is from something eaten the meal prior and you're not noticing the pattern because of the delay...

It could also be that she's consuming much more lactose in the mozzarella than in a small glass of milk she might drink (a few pieces of pizza vs a small glass of milk?)

Anonymous
Age 9 my Ds suddenly had a reaction to something he ate, nausea, severe hives all over his body including his face (eyes swollen etc). Get her tested Op there are lots of very good allergists in this town (for obvious reasons).

Anonymous
Could it be the amount? It is easy to over eat pizza. Maybe her stomach is reacting to her eating too much? Or too much fatty foood?
Anonymous
Tomato sauce has high acidity. It could be that. It could be the garlic that they put on the pizza. It could be the general greasiness of the pizza.

Good luck!

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:my youngest boys 10 and 12 are now reacting to all stone fruit..even asian pears no clue why.


It maybe related to hayfever. I had severe hayfever as a kid, developed into an irritated throat after eating tree fruits, rice of any kind and some vegetables like carrots. Basically I have issues with a lot of raw fruits and vegetables (which I love) now, but my hayfever has subsided now that I'm an adult. Interestingly I don't have the reaction if those foods are processed. You might look at articles about apple allergies.


wow interesting,thanks. I do not think they have hay fever, or rather it has not been looked into but do have seasonal allergies to pollen and grass, also have eczema.


sorry pp here..meant to say that they tend to get red, itchy eyes and congestion but not like their father who has hay fever and is a mess almost all year.


By hay fever I mean seasonal allergies in spring and fall, so pollen, ragweed, etc were to blame. The grass allergies are what were what ultimately triggered the food allergies later in life.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:my youngest boys 10 and 12 are now reacting to all stone fruit..even asian pears no clue why.


It maybe related to hayfever. I had severe hayfever as a kid, developed into an irritated throat after eating tree fruits, rice of any kind and some vegetables like carrots. Basically I have issues with a lot of raw fruits and vegetables (which I love) now, but my hayfever has subsided now that I'm an adult. Interestingly I don't have the reaction if those foods are processed. You might look at articles about apple allergies.


wow interesting,thanks. I do not think they have hay fever, or rather it has not been looked into but do have seasonal allergies to pollen and grass, also have eczema.


sorry pp here..meant to say that they tend to get red, itchy eyes and congestion but not like their father who has hay fever and is a mess almost all year.


By hay fever I mean seasonal allergies in spring and fall, so pollen, ragweed, etc were to blame. The grass allergies are what were what ultimately triggered the food allergies later in life.


Here’s one of many reference: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/319884.php
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