Wilson vs St. John’s

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question, is it difficult to get into SJC if you are not catholic and are not coming from catholic school?

Yes. It's become a very popular school. If you believe the private school board, they received nearly 1000 applications for the incoming 9th grade class.

But if you bring something to the table that they need (athletic skills) that helps. They also care about diversity; about 50% of their student body is African American and students who are interested in their JROTC program.

Wow! Almost 50% of students are African-American? I’m genuinely surprised by this stat. With almost 1100 students enrolled, that means around 500 students. A quick run through their website doesn’t reflect this.

Wilson is:
35% Black
31% White
23% Latino
7% Asian

Regardless of the number, it's a very diverse private school. Much more so than Wilson actually.

Clearly not. What is the Latino percentage? What is the percentage of students whose families would qualify for free/reduced meals. Are there any Muslim students?
You can love SJC ‘til the cows come home. That is your right and I fully support it. But you cannot come here and purposely lie that SJC has either greater racial or socio-economic diversity. No way, no how.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Serious question, is it difficult to get into SJC if you are not catholic and are not coming from catholic school?

Yes. It's become a very popular school. If you believe the private school board, they received nearly 1000 applications for the incoming 9th grade class.

But if you bring something to the table that they need (athletic skills) that helps. They also care about diversity; about 50% of their student body is African American and students who are interested in their JROTC program.

Wow! Almost 50% of students are African-American? I’m genuinely surprised by this stat. With almost 1100 students enrolled, that means around 500 students. A quick run through their website doesn’t reflect this.

Wilson is:
35% Black
31% White
23% Latino
7% Asian

Regardless of the number, it's a very diverse private school. Much more so than Wilson actually.

Clearly not. What is the Latino percentage? What is the percentage of students whose families would qualify for free/reduced meals. Are there any Muslim students?
You can love SJC ‘til the cows come home. That is your right and I fully support it. But you cannot come here and purposely lie that SJC has either greater racial or socio-economic diversity. No way, no how.

I'm not the PP.

But the Latino(a) number is listed.

They have many (at least 6) ADW schools that send kids to SJC that are 100% free. Many other schools that are not free but have FA, so the FARM #'s are not available but they have a lot of full scholarship children that are not athletes.

Religions diversity is low, basically 90% + Christian.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Serious question, is it difficult to get into SJC if you are not catholic and are not coming from catholic school?

Yes. It's become a very popular school. If you believe the private school board, they received nearly 1000 applications for the incoming 9th grade class.

But if you bring something to the table that they need (athletic skills) that helps. They also care about diversity; about 50% of their student body is African American and students who are interested in their JROTC program.

Wow! Almost 50% of students are African-American? I’m genuinely surprised by this stat. With almost 1100 students enrolled, that means around 500 students. A quick run through their website doesn’t reflect this.

Wilson is:
35% Black
31% White
23% Latino
7% Asian

Regardless of the number, it's a very diverse private school. Much more so than Wilson actually.

Clearly not. What is the Latino percentage? What is the percentage of students whose families would qualify for free/reduced meals. Are there any Muslim students?
You can love SJC ‘til the cows come home. That is your right and I fully support it. But you cannot come here and purposely lie that SJC has either greater racial or socio-economic diversity. No way, no how.

I'm not the PP.

But the Latino(a) number is listed.

They have many (at least 6) ADW schools that send kids to SJC that are 100% free. Many other schools that are not free but have FA, so the FARM #'s are not available but they have a lot of full scholarship children that are not athletes.

Religions diversity is low, basically 90% + Christian.

Thanks PP. Can you share where the racial/ethnic percentages are listed?

[Anonymous]

SJC is having an open house for prospective students and families on 10/21/18 from 11-2 PM.

Seems like a great chance to ask these questions of someone who knows the answers.

If you want to apply, keep in mind your student must take the HSPT exam in December, and registration closes mid-November. https://www.stjohnschs.org/page/admissions/applying-to-st-johns

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Serious question, is it difficult to get into SJC if you are not catholic and are not coming from catholic school?

Yes. It's become a very popular school. If you believe the private school board, they received nearly 1000 applications for the incoming 9th grade class.

But if you bring something to the table that they need (athletic skills) that helps. They also care about diversity; about 50% of their student body is African American and students who are interested in their JROTC program.

Wow! Almost 50% of students are African-American? I’m genuinely surprised by this stat. With almost 1100 students enrolled, that means around 500 students. A quick run through their website doesn’t reflect this.

Wilson is:
35% Black
31% White
23% Latino
7% Asian

Regardless of the number, it's a very diverse private school. Much more so than Wilson actually.

Clearly not. What is the Latino percentage? What is the percentage of students whose families would qualify for free/reduced meals. Are there any Muslim students?
You can love SJC ‘til the cows come home. That is your right and I fully support it. But you cannot come here and purposely lie that SJC has either greater racial or socio-economic diversity. No way, no how.

I'm not the PP.

But the Latino(a) number is listed.

They have many (at least 6) ADW schools that send kids to SJC that are 100% free. Many other schools that are not free but have FA, so the FARM #'s are not available but they have a lot of full scholarship children that are not athletes.

Religions diversity is low, basically 90% + Christian.

Thanks PP. Can you share where the racial/ethnic percentages are listed?

They're on the school profile online https://stjohnschs.myschoolapp.com/ftpimages/560/download/download_1955548.pdf and someone posted them above.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Serious question, is it difficult to get into SJC if you are not catholic and are not coming from catholic school?

Yes. It's become a very popular school. If you believe the private school board, they received nearly 1000 applications for the incoming 9th grade class.

But if you bring something to the table that they need (athletic skills) that helps. They also care about diversity; about 50% of their student body is African American and students who are interested in their JROTC program.

Wow! Almost 50% of students are African-American? I’m genuinely surprised by this stat. With almost 1100 students enrolled, that means around 500 students. A quick run through their website doesn’t reflect this.

Wilson is:
35% Black
31% White
23% Latino
7% Asian

PP might have gotten confused -- it's around 50% non-white, not 50% black. They say in their school profile: Caucasian, 56%; African American, 25%; Hispanic, 9%; Asian, 4%; other, 5%

So clearly, Wilson is a more diverse school in every way. For now. It won’t stay that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How much does sic cost? What percentage of the freshman class are from Deal? What about at Wilson?

Last year at the Deal 8th grade parent session on the high school application process we were told that Deal students usually make up 80% of the 9th grade at Wilson and that typically about 30% of Deal students (about 140 kids) will go to a school other than Wilson (Walls, Banneker, DE, private, or move out of DC area).

[Anonymous]

The ethnicity numbers for SJC above are laughable. The "stats" link is not to an SJC website.

I have 2 kids at SJC and I interact with students on campus 4-8 hrs/wk.

MAYBE 40% white and 40% black, though I'd say more black students than white.

To the question above about Muslim students, I wonder how many would want to attend a Catholic school. Religion classes are required each year, with the 1st 2 yrs are New & Old Testament; the next 2 years the classes are really more ethics from a Christian perspective.

Hindus and Buddhists also represent just under 1% of the US population (Pew 2015) and may be under-represented as well.

As to the socio-economic question, I suggest that SJC has more low-income white students than Wilson. I think it helps kids grow when race and income are not so linked as they are at local schools.

To the original poster I'd say the only reasonable answer to a question about schools: listen to feedback, then go visit any school that you'd consider.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The ethnicity numbers for SJC above are laughable. The "stats" link is not to an SJC website.

I have 2 kids at SJC and I interact with students on campus 4-8 hrs/wk.

MAYBE 40% white and 40% black, though I'd say more black students than white.

To the question above about Muslim students, I wonder how many would want to attend a Catholic school. Religion classes are required each year, with the 1st 2 yrs are New & Old Testament; the next 2 years the classes are really more ethics from a Christian perspective.

Hindus and Buddhists also represent just under 1% of the US population (Pew 2015) and may be under-represented as well.

As to the socio-economic question, I suggest that SJC has more low-income white students than Wilson. I think it helps kids grow when race and income are not so linked as they are at local schools.

To the original poster I'd say the only reasonable answer to a question about schools: listen to feedback, then go visit any school that you'd consider.

So we’re to believe your “read” on the racial breakdown of the students because you visit the school as a volunteer of some sort forn4-8 hours a week. And this quote below regarding SJC has many of the same stats exactly right from their own website including the actual number of students and the percentage of faculty with master’s degrees. But the stats about the racial groups are “laughable” and must be made up. Got it.


THE STUDENT BODY AND FACULTY
St. John’s enrolls a student body that is ethnically and economically diverse. The student population of 1,121 students is drawn from many communities in the Washington metropolitan area; a number of international students are welcomed each year as well. The ethnic breakdown of the student body is as follows: Caucasian, 56%; African American, 25%; Hispanic, 9%; Asian, 4%; other, 5%. Currently there are 322 students in the 9th grade; 270 in the 10th grade; 290 in the 11th grade; and 270 in the 12th grade. The average class size is 22 students. Admission to St. John’s is selective; approximately 36% of our students receive some form of financial assistance. There are 106 faculty members, 70% of whom hold a master’s degree or hig

[Anonymous]

I have 2 who attended SJC and 3rd starting this fall. We are also a Deal family. SJC used to be a lot easier to get into when my oldest entered. From the people we know who applied from Deal for this fall few made it in. I don’t know if that is because the Deal applications are up or if more kids are picking SJC from the ADW schools.

We love it. Great school with really nice kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The ethnicity numbers for SJC above are laughable. The "stats" link is not to an SJC website.

I have 2 kids at SJC and I interact with students on campus 4-8 hrs/wk.

MAYBE 40% white and 40% black, though I'd say more black students than white.

To the question above about Muslim students, I wonder how many would want to attend a Catholic school. Religion classes are required each year, with the 1st 2 yrs are New & Old Testament; the next 2 years the classes are really more ethics from a Christian perspective.

Hindus and Buddhists also represent just under 1% of the US population (Pew 2015) and may be under-represented as well.

As to the socio-economic question, I suggest that SJC has more low-income white students than Wilson. I think it helps kids grow when race and income are not so linked as they are at local schools.

To the original poster I'd say the only reasonable answer to a question about schools: listen to feedback, then go visit any school that you'd consider.

So we’re to believe your “read” on the racial breakdown of the students because you visit the school as a volunteer of some sort forn4-8 hours a week. And this quote below regarding SJC has many of the same stats exactly right from their own website including the actual number of students and the percentage of faculty with master’s degrees. But the stats about the racial groups are “laughable” and must be made up. Got it.


THE STUDENT BODY AND FACULTY
St. John’s enrolls a student body that is ethnically and economically diverse. The student population of 1,121 students is drawn from many communities in the Washington metropolitan area; a number of international students are welcomed each year as well. The ethnic breakdown of the student body is as follows: Caucasian, 56%; African American, 25%; Hispanic, 9%; Asian, 4%; other, 5%. Currently there are 322 students in the 9th grade; 270 in the 10th grade; 290 in the 11th grade; and 270 in the 12th grade. The average class size is 22 students. Admission to St. John’s is selective; approximately 36% of our students receive some form of financial assistance. There are 106 faculty members, 70% of whom hold a master’s degree or hig

Thanks for real stats. To be fair, to many white people 25% black does seem like more than 50%. It’s all about perception.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have 2 who attended SJC and 3rd starting this fall. We are also a Deal family. SJC used to be a lot easier to get into when my oldest entered. From the people we know who applied from Deal for this fall few made it in. I don’t know if that is because the Deal applications are up or if more kids are picking SJC from the ADW schools.

We love it. Great school with really nice kids.

Few made it in from Deal to any privates--it was much worse from Deal to the big 3 privates and the Catholics like Visitation and Gonzaga. These last two schools basically took 1 kid each from Deal and the kids they took are Catholic and either standout (all city) athletes or legacy or both. One the "big 3" side of things I know 10-15 kids who applied out from Deal for every 1 who go in to any top private. As a result, all are going to Wilson except for the SJC contingent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have 2 who attended SJC and 3rd starting this fall. We are also a Deal family. SJC used to be a lot easier to get into when my oldest entered. From the people we know who applied from Deal for this fall few made it in. I don’t know if that is because the Deal applications are up or if more kids are picking SJC from the ADW schools.

We love it. Great school with really nice kids.

Few made it in from Deal to any privates--it was much worse from Deal to the big 3 privates and the Catholics like Visitation and Gonzaga. These last two schools basically took 1 kid each from Deal and the kids they took are Catholic and either standout (all city) athletes or legacy or both. One the "big 3" side of things I know 10-15 kids who applied out from Deal for every 1 who go in to any top private. As a result, all are going to Wilson except for the SJC contingent.

Bullsh*t. Deal is a huge school. How do you know what kids got into what private schools from it? You have absolutely no idea and are just pulling numbers out of your a$$. I’ll bet Deal itself couldn’t answer the question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I have 2 who attended SJC and 3rd starting this fall. We are also a Deal family. SJC used to be a lot easier to get into when my oldest entered. From the people we know who applied from Deal for this fall few made it in. I don’t know if that is because the Deal applications are up or if more kids are picking SJC from the ADW schools.

We love it. Great school with really nice kids.

Few made it in from Deal to any privates--it was much worse from Deal to the big 3 privates and the Catholics like Visitation and Gonzaga. These last two schools basically took 1 kid each from Deal and the kids they took are Catholic and either standout (all city) athletes or legacy or both. One the "big 3" side of things I know 10-15 kids who applied out from Deal for every 1 who go in to any top private. As a result, all are going to Wilson except for the SJC contingent.

Bullsh*t. Deal is a huge school. How do you know what kids got into what private schools from it? You have absolutely no idea and are just pulling numbers out of your a$$. I’ll bet Deal itself couldn’t answer the question.

NP the bigger privates sort of don’t take deal kids on principle unless they are super at something and this is openly known. They know that it is simply parents opting out of Wilson and they nor the kids are acclimated to the engagement the privates entail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have 2 who attended SJC and 3rd starting this fall. We are also a Deal family. SJC used to be a lot easier to get into when my oldest entered. From the people we know who applied from Deal for this fall few made it in. I don’t know if that is because the Deal applications are up or if more kids are picking SJC from the ADW schools.

We love it. Great school with really nice kids.

Few made it in from Deal to any privates--it was much worse from Deal to the big 3 privates and the Catholics like Visitation and Gonzaga. These last two schools basically took 1 kid each from Deal and the kids they took are Catholic and either standout (all city) athletes or legacy or both. One the "big 3" side of things I know 10-15 kids who applied out from Deal for every 1 who go in to any top private. As a result, all are going to Wilson except for the SJC contingent.

Bullsh*t. Deal is a huge school. How do you know what kids got into what private schools from it? You have absolutely no idea and are just pulling numbers out of your a$$. I’ll bet Deal itself couldn’t answer the question.

NP the bigger privates sort of don’t take deal kids on principle unless they are super at something and this is openly known. They know that it is simply parents opting out of Wilson and they nor the kids are acclimated to the engagement the privates entail.

This has absolutely not been our experience. I have two who left Deal for a big 3. My rising 12th grader's class had multiple admits at all of the major DC privates - some in the double digits. While the admissions marketplace may have tightened up a bit, it's not because the schools are unwilling to take Deal kids "on principle."