Kids who applied to Stanford and Berkeley
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Anonymous
| OP - She will be full pay. Plans to study linguistics undergrad with career aspirations in PR. Lot's of AP courses with 4's and 5's in all. Will be a very interesting year. |
Anonymous
Grades only matter in the context of the high school and course selection. Except for all-star athletes, there is no way to be "well positioned" for Stanford. The entire applicant pool has great SATs and grades. Berkeley is significantly more difficult than any other public university. Work on your safety list! |
Anonymous
No, my full pay, private kid with similar stats had roughly similar outcomes, except that she knew better than to even try at ivies. |
Anonymous
| Might want to consider UCLA as well, given her interest in linguistics. |
Anonymous
PP here. That's what I thought. And I called them to express interest and they weren't biting. I do think if my DD was a DS it would have helped at the SLACs, and maybe at Richmond. I would not plan on the notion that URichmond is courting high stats kids. My DD stats were higher than all their 75% percentile and they weren't the least bit interested. I was told "it was a tough year and we wish your DD well". |
Anonymous
PP here. I understand and in hindsight we did shoot a little too high. But she liked Brown and Columbia and after all her hard work it was hard to tell her not to try. |
Anonymous
| This reflects that good grades/scores are nothing more than table stakes. The referenced schools are reaches for everyone and your child should recognize that rejection is the most likely outcome. But that is true for almost everyone so it should not be a deterrent. Good luck! |
Anonymous
PP - thank you for your kind thoughts. I think so. Although she is very young she has a track record of making good decisions. So it wasn't where she envisioned going but she has a good head on her shoulders and I have faith she will be successful no matter where she goes. And she is considering pre-med so the numbers work well. |
Anonymous
I am the PP with the high stats DD and this is very good advice. |
Anonymous
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Stanford is a MUCH smaller school. Just the numbers tell you that even the strongest applicants have a better shot at Berkeley.
-- Berkeley grad who thought I wanted to go to Stanford until I actually visited there, so I'm biased, but Berkeley is better anyway 
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Anonymous
geez. reading that...why even try now. Curious, was dc pushed to achieve those stats? Have you hired private tutors, send kids to summer learning camps, etc...? |
Anonymous
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Unfortunately, it doesn't help (with admissions) if you are a girl applying to the most selective SLACs or the likes of Stanford. There are too many of these applicants, even with high stats.
You need a hook. Or want to study a field where women are underrepresented (engineering for example). |
Anonymous
| I am a little surprised at the Wellesley denial. Though selective, it is not as selective as the ivys, and their 75% percentile ACT is only 33, which is below your SAT equivalent. And unlike some other SLACs, you cannot say that the stats for girls are higher. Maybe that school takes a higher number from ED. Just curious. Glad we did not shoot for the ivys. I do not think we would have had a chance. |
Anonymous
My question for the PP who shared these results is whether any of her applications were ED, or all were RD. ED is becoming an essential strategy if you want to crack the top schools. Which is unfortunately IMO, but that seems to be the state of play. |
Anonymous
Wellesley on their class of 2022 -- you need a hook. "Wellesley received 6,670 first-year applications this year, a 17 percent increase over last year (which was also a 17 percent increase over the previous year). These numbers provide a first glance at the 19 percent of applicants granted admission, the lowest admit rate ever for the College. Here’s a look at the admitted class of 2022: The accepted students hail from 955 high schools in 49 states plus the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico as well as 41 countries outside the United States. Fifty-three percent are domestic students of color, identifying as African-American, Asian-American, Latina or Hispanic, or Native American. Sixteen percent will be the first generation in their families to attend a four-year college. Eleven percent are international citizens. Their average SAT score is 1438 and their average ACT score is 32. Of the students attending high schools that rank, 86 percent are ranked in the top 10 percent of their graduating classes. Admitted students include those who applied to Wellesley via the College’s valuable partners QuestBridge and the Posse Foundation, and those who worked with local, community-based organizations that support students in applying to college." |