Here's a glass of Kool-Aid for you. |
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nuremberg_defense |
Our government lies enough. We don't have to lie too. http://thehill.com/latino/393000-hhs-official-says-family-separation-policy-will-have-deterrence-effect |
What does it matter if separating famiiles was "policy" if it was clearly "practice" and that practice was 100% ordered by the Trump administration? |
When any law is open for interpretation, how amazing it is that this administration chooses the most cruel, corrupt or self-serving interpretation (most of the time going against all previous norms)! I grew up in country where personal honor was a hard thing to find and was amazed to see flowers blooming in most local places without anyone picking them for themselves, vegetables left on roadsides with a jar for people to put their price, books left outside libraries with a honor system to pay, restaurants giving out food to charities without wondering if someone would abuse the system. I felt America is so financially well-off that most Americans chose the right thing to do on their own. However, seeing the outright violation of all precedence of morally right norms by this administration (GOP and especially Trump) unless there is a law to tie their hand, I am starting to wonder if my understanding of America is at all correct. I am starting to wonder if Americans seem less corrupt just because they do not have much opportunities to be. |
When the law does not specifically say "separate families at the border" and the prior practice was not to do that (or to do it infrequently), and then you reverse course and start doing it very frequently -- that is a policy. There are usually multiple ways to interpret and enforce a law. The way in which an administration chooses to enforce a law is a policy. Ergo, this was policy. As admitted by administration officials. As now being reversed (supposedly) by executive order. An executive order cannot override a statute or regulation. But it can override or set policy. |
OP lied. There was no such policy. Please point to a EO, memo, or anything about this so called policy.
Obama separated families too. So did Bush and Clinton. Trump is forced to make a temporary fix today for a decades-old problem. Just like Obama's DACA fix, the EO is subject to court challenge and cancellation by future administrations. Only congress can solve this problem. |
Clueless. If you honestly think this is correct, then you haven't been paying attention. |
So, if they didn't have a policy of separating families, then why the EO? I'm still confused. And Sessions also stated that they were "following the law", and it was Biblical to do so to justify this. So, again, I'm very confused as to whether the Trump administration agrees that this is the law or policy or not. I don't think the administration understands what their own policies and laws are. Once again.. it's just chaos. |
Seriously! How can people buy into the administration’s lies. Such sheep! |
You should stop embarrassing yourself with this level of ignorance. |
Yes, they do call it that. It's called actually enforcing the law, not practicing catch and release. Those ARE the facts. |
It was NOT Trump's LAW. |
Child detainment camps are just an unintended side effect. Oopsie. |
Do y'all remember Obama refusing to sign an EO regarding DACA because it was the job of Congress to do so? That's because Congress is the one to make laws. Even Obama knew the path to get comprehensive immigration reform done is through Congress. What you are seeing here? This outrage? It's because the Trump administration is no longer practicing catch and release, i.e. they are enforcing the immigration laws on the books. |