Why These 18 Oklahoma Teachers Are Quitting Their Jobs

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How did we get here?


Its always been there.


I don't think that's true. Something has changed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How did we get here?


Its always been there.


I don't think that's true. Something has changed.


Look at the head of our country! He doesn't even read or value education.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We all have power. The power of our vote. I cringe every time I hear someone isn't going to vote in an election. We can change this if we don't ignore the power of each and every vote.


It's not the amount of money--it is how it is managed. Just watch an FCPS School Board meeting.


Yes. Port management and misaligned incentives plus incompetency at the central office will tank a school district no matter how much taxes it collects. Real shame.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That video is so sad but the US just doesn't care about public education.


some states do; some states want low taxes which hurts public education for sure. It's just a choice their citizens make.



And the people in the video chose to become teachers. Don't go into a field without researching it. We ultimately have to be responsible for our decisions. Blaming others doesn't help anyone.


Okay, wait a minute....when you are 18 or 19 years old, most people aren't wise enough to do research the pay in every state and all the implications of that. I mean, when I decided my profession, I didn't have a good understanding of the pay or health insurance outside of "oh, I need a job that provides insurance".
When teachers have to rely on food pantries, there is very, very clearly something wrong and the problem isn't that some young kid didn't research his or her field.


I was in high school with someone who's life dream was to be a teacher. Even then I couldn't understand that. Unless your kid is stupid they know how to look up estimated salaries. I looked up the costs of veterinary school (easily $300,000) and the average salary while I was taking my PSATs.

Then I changed my mind about being a veterinarian. Simple.
Anonymous
Teaching is a great Mommy track job. You can use the Summers to plan your kids etc you just need to marry an affluent male
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That video is so sad but the US just doesn't care about public education.


some states do; some states want low taxes which hurts public education for sure. It's just a choice their citizens make.



And the people in the video chose to become teachers. Don't go into a field without researching it. We ultimately have to be responsible for our decisions. Blaming others doesn't help anyone.


Okay, wait a minute....when you are 18 or 19 years old, most people aren't wise enough to do research the pay in every state and all the implications of that. I mean, when I decided my profession, I didn't have a good understanding of the pay or health insurance outside of "oh, I need a job that provides insurance".
When teachers have to rely on food pantries, there is very, very clearly something wrong and the problem isn't that some young kid didn't research his or her field.


I was in high school with someone who's life dream was to be a teacher. Even then I couldn't understand that. Unless your kid is stupid they know how to look up estimated salaries. I looked up the costs of veterinary school (easily $300,000) and the average salary while I was taking my PSATs.

Then I changed my mind about being a veterinarian. Simple.


What's your thinking, here? That people shouldn't become teachers because the salaries are low? Then what? Then there wouldn't be any teachers, so salaries would have to go up in order to attract people into teaching? Do you think that salaries would actually go up?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How did we get here?


Its always been there.


I don't think that's true. Something has changed.


The only thing that has changed is that Teacher was previously one of the few respectable positions a woman could obtain pre-1950s. That salary was never enough to live alone, it just gave a wife something to commit to other than sitting at home. Teachers made $60 - $70 month in California in the late 1800s. The railroad attendants they were married to? $130 - $140 mo.

Now women have gone on to other more esteemed professions and the ones left behind think they should be paid more (adjusted with inflation) when that was never an objective of the education system or the state governments.





Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That video is so sad but the US just doesn't care about public education.


some states do; some states want low taxes which hurts public education for sure. It's just a choice their citizens make.



And the people in the video chose to become teachers. Don't go into a field without researching it. We ultimately have to be responsible for our decisions. Blaming others doesn't help anyone.


Okay, wait a minute....when you are 18 or 19 years old, most people aren't wise enough to do research the pay in every state and all the implications of that. I mean, when I decided my profession, I didn't have a good understanding of the pay or health insurance outside of "oh, I need a job that provides insurance".
When teachers have to rely on food pantries, there is very, very clearly something wrong and the problem isn't that some young kid didn't research his or her field.


I was in high school with someone who's life dream was to be a teacher. Even then I couldn't understand that. Unless your kid is stupid they know how to look up estimated salaries. I looked up the costs of veterinary school (easily $300,000) and the average salary while I was taking my PSATs.

Then I changed my mind about being a veterinarian. Simple.


What's your thinking, here? That people shouldn't become teachers because the salaries are low? Then what? Then there wouldn't be any teachers, so salaries would have to go up in order to attract people into teaching? Do you think that salaries would actually go up?


No, my thinking is the PP above said 18 and 19-year-olds are too stupid to realize what a low salary is and are going into the profession blind so they aren't ultimately responsible. Not true.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That video is so sad but the US just doesn't care about public education.


some states do; some states want low taxes which hurts public education for sure. It's just a choice their citizens make.



And the people in the video chose to become teachers. Don't go into a field without researching it. We ultimately have to be responsible for our decisions. Blaming others doesn't help anyone.


Okay, wait a minute....when you are 18 or 19 years old, most people aren't wise enough to do research the pay in every state and all the implications of that. I mean, when I decided my profession, I didn't have a good understanding of the pay or health insurance outside of "oh, I need a job that provides insurance".
When teachers have to rely on food pantries, there is very, very clearly something wrong and the problem isn't that some young kid didn't research his or her field.


I was in high school with someone who's life dream was to be a teacher. Even then I couldn't understand that. Unless your kid is stupid they know how to look up estimated salaries. I looked up the costs of veterinary school (easily $300,000) and the average salary while I was taking my PSATs.

Then I changed my mind about being a veterinarian. Simple.


What's your thinking, here? That people shouldn't become teachers because the salaries are low? Then what? Then there wouldn't be any teachers, so salaries would have to go up in order to attract people into teaching? Do you think that salaries would actually go up?


No, my thinking is the PP above said 18 and 19-year-olds are too stupid to realize what a low salary is and are going into the profession blind so they aren't ultimately responsible. Not true.


Maybe we should be paying living wages to our teachers so they'll stay in the classroom and we can educate the next generation? How is this acceptable? You're missing the actual problem here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:That video is so sad but the US just doesn't care about public education.


Look at how liberal indoctrination has turned our education system into complete sh!t....
Anonymous
Half of all teachers are union members.
That's part of the problem.

Union-forced lemon dances are NOT for the benefit of children.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That video is so sad but the US just doesn't care about public education.


some states do; some states want low taxes which hurts public education for sure. It's just a choice their citizens make.



And the people in the video chose to become teachers. Don't go into a field without researching it. We ultimately have to be responsible for our decisions. Blaming others doesn't help anyone.


C'mon, teachers don't go into teaching for the money or go into thinking it they will be wealthy, but don't they deserve a living wage?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That video is so sad but the US just doesn't care about public education.


some states do; some states want low taxes which hurts public education for sure. It's just a choice their citizens make.



And the people in the video chose to become teachers. Don't go into a field without researching it. We ultimately have to be responsible for our decisions. Blaming others doesn't help anyone.


And if everyone follows your advice, there wouldn't be enough teachers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Half of all teachers are union members.
That's part of the problem.

Union-forced lemon dances are NOT for the benefit of children.


Half? Is it that many? Do you have data? I would think less.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Half of all teachers are union members.
That's part of the problem.

Union-forced lemon dances are NOT for the benefit of children.


Half? Is it that many? Do you have data? I would think less.


I think it's less too. But I can't imagine why PP thinks teacher unions are the reason that teachers are underpaid. It sounds like kneejerk anti-union rants.
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