NYT: What Religion Can Give Us (and Science can’t)

[Anonymous]

I don't like the premise in the title, frankly I don't like the false dichotomy of religion and science. they serve different purposes and are not in competition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't like the premise in the title, frankly I don't like the false dichotomy of religion and science. they serve different purposes and are not in competition.

Agreed.

Also, I understand where they are coming from when they say "most religious beliefs are untrue" in the sense that religions have different, competing truth claims. But all religious believers are united in a belief that the universe was created by an intelligent being (I guess you can say force if you want to be a squish) who imbued it, and human life, with fundamental moral meaning beyond propogating genes / self-interest.

This is either true or not and there is a fundamental world view shift depending on how one comes out on this issue. It's really the fundamental question of human life.

So even if we can all agree that the others are mostly wrong on details that's better than being secular and being wrong on the big question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't like the premise in the title, frankly I don't like the false dichotomy of religion and science. they serve different purposes and are not in competition.

Agreed.

Also, I understand where they are coming from when they say "most religious beliefs are untrue" in the sense that religions have different, competing truth claims. But all religious believers are united in a belief that the universe was created by an intelligent being (I guess you can say force if you want to be a squish) who imbued it, and human life, with fundamental moral meaning beyond propogating genes / self-interest.

This is either true or not and there is a fundamental world view shift depending on how one comes out on this issue. It's really the fundamental question of human life.

So even if we can all agree that the others are mostly wrong on details that's better than being secular and being wrong on the big question.

Except you don't know if secular people are wrong on the big question, and science, around which modern people base their knowledge of how the world works, does not favor the concept that the world was created by a being.

It also doesn't favor the concept that this intelligent being imbued humans with moral meaning. In fact, what science has been able to learn so far indicates that some beings other than humans (e.g., other primates, mammals) also have a moral sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't like the premise in the title, frankly I don't like the false dichotomy of religion and science. they serve different purposes and are not in competition.

Agreed.

Also, I understand where they are coming from when they say "most religious beliefs are untrue" in the sense that religions have different, competing truth claims. But all religious believers are united in a belief that the universe was created by an intelligent being (I guess you can say force if you want to be a squish) who imbued it, and human life, with fundamental moral meaning beyond propogating genes / self-interest.

This is either true or not and there is a fundamental world view shift depending on how one comes out on this issue. It's really the fundamental question of human life.

So even if we can all agree that the others are mostly wrong on details that's better than being secular and being wrong on the big question.

Except you don't know if secular people are wrong on the big question, and science, around which modern people base their knowledge of how the world works, does not favor the concept that the world was created by a being.

It also doesn't favor the concept that this intelligent being imbued humans with moral meaning. In fact, what science has been able to learn so far indicates that some beings other than humans (e.g., other primates, mammals) also have a moral sense.

Your post is factually incorrect. Science does no such thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't like the premise in the title, frankly I don't like the false dichotomy of religion and science. they serve different purposes and are not in competition.

Agreed.

Also, I understand where they are coming from when they say "most religious beliefs are untrue" in the sense that religions have different, competing truth claims. But all religious believers are united in a belief that the universe was created by an intelligent being (I guess you can say force if you want to be a squish) who imbued it, and human life, with fundamental moral meaning beyond propogating genes / self-interest.

This is either true or not and there is a fundamental world view shift depending on how one comes out on this issue. It's really the fundamental question of human life.

So even if we can all agree that the others are mostly wrong on details that's better than being secular and being wrong on the big question.

Except you don't know if secular people are wrong on the big question, and science, around which modern people base their knowledge of how the world works, does not favor the concept that the world was created by a being.

It also doesn't favor the concept that this intelligent being imbued humans with moral meaning. In fact, what science has been able to learn so far indicates that some beings other than humans (e.g., other primates, mammals) also have a moral sense.

Your post is factually incorrect. Science does no such thing.

Also grammatically incorrect as science is an object and not a subject.