Student taking pictures of me for snapchat against my wishes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a sub inbetween jobs (i'm not a pro teacher) somewhere out west. There is a student who when she enters the class, uses snap chat to take a picture of me and snap it (i don't know if she puts it in her stories or sends it to someone(s)) on snapchat. Other students have tried likewise but when I tell them 'no', they listen, unlike her. I'm usually pretty easy going and as long as the kids do their work and are productive, i let a lot of things slide. The first time this happened, I kept saying no and she ignored my request. The second time it happened, it was in the library and I didn't want to make a scene. Today she thought she did it covertly by holding her phone low and walking past but I clearly saw her screen since i think snapchat uses only the front facing camera?

I feel like i'm going to get into a ricegum situation and yank her phone out of her hand and throw it against the wall the next time this happens. I've told her the first time that it was an invasion of privacy and to please stop and she didn't listen.

Should i take this to the administration or will they laugh at me? I asked her 'would you do this to another teacher, it's weird' and she laughed and goes 'sure sometimes, they wouldn't care' - but i think that was a bs answer. I didn't want to pull her out of class and talk to her one on one about in the hall way either - i felt that would look weird since i'm not a regular teacher.

please advise.

Absolutely confiscate her phone. Also have the little witch suspended.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there anything remarkable that might prompt such immature behavior? Are you:

-- Hot? A MILF?
-- Really overweight?
-- Looking like a celebrity?
-- A bad dresser?

None of this excuses the behavior, of course. I'm just trying to understand why you are being targeted.

OP this is insane and would not be acceptable in any other workplace and should.not he something you are subject to.

But this PP did make me chuckle.

[Anonymous]

Kids do this at my child’s school. It’s awful. They have fake pages of the teachers. Sigh. I would quit

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is an example of why many teachers quit. Students get away with everything. Sounds like this kid has never faced any real consequences and boldly ignores the rules. I'm a teacher and would email my admin about this. I would request a meeting and discuss what they plan on doing about this student. If nothing happens, go to your union rep.

+1. OP put your concerns in writing and email the principal and cc the guidance counselor. Zero chance this kid is not already on their radar. Tell them you will refuse subbing assignments in that class or at the school unless this is addressed and the behavior stops, and keep your word. The schools need subs and you’re not under contract so you have a decent amount of leverage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is an example of why many teachers quit. Students get away with everything. Sounds like this kid has never faced any real consequences and boldly ignores the rules. I'm a teacher and would email my admin about this. I would request a meeting and discuss what they plan on doing about this student. If nothing happens, go to your union rep.

+1. OP put your concerns in writing and email the principal and cc the guidance counselor. Zero chance this kid is not already on their radar. Tell them you will refuse subbing assignments in that class or at the school unless this is addressed and the behavior stops, and keep your word. The schools need subs and you’re not under contract so you have a decent amount of leverage.

+1 PP is exactly right. I suspect this student is also taking pictures of other students under similar circumstances, and admin needs to get it under control. I agree that subs are in such short supply that they should fix this or you should not take sub jobs there. Thank you for substituting, and I hope this gets resolved for you soon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What you look like doesn't matter.

Students' goal is to try to impress their peers by posting unapproved video of the teacher. (not just subs)

Notify the school administration immediately. In our district, "Inappropriate cell phone use" results in a referral and discipline for the students.

NO ONE has the right to violate your privacy. Be aware, you must have a person's permission to post the image or they become liable for the behavior.

+1
The student shouldn't even have a phone out; that alone is probably violating school policy. What she is doing is completely inappropriate. Get the administration involved. If they don't follow up, stop subbing there. There are plenty of other schools who will hire you.

[Anonymous]

I would very happily confiscate the phone. Each and every time. They want their phone back, parent is going to need to call me to discuss.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What you look like doesn't matter.

Students' goal is to try to impress their peers by posting unapproved video of the teacher. (not just subs)

Notify the school administration immediately. In our district, "Inappropriate cell phone use" results in a referral and discipline for the students.

NO ONE has the right to violate your privacy. Be aware, you must have a person's permission to post the image or they become liable for the behavior.

+1
The student shouldn't even have a phone out; that alone is probably violating school policy. What she is doing is completely inappropriate. Get the administration involved. If they don't follow up, stop subbing there. There are plenty of other schools who will hire you.

And let the school and district administration know why - with factual details. It’s totally unacceptable behavior on the part of the student, but anything that isn’t done 100% by the book will crash back on you, the sub.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a sub inbetween jobs (i'm not a pro teacher) somewhere out west. There is a student who when she enters the class, uses snap chat to take a picture of me and snap it (i don't know if she puts it in her stories or sends it to someone(s)) on snapchat. Other students have tried likewise but when I tell them 'no', they listen, unlike her. I'm usually pretty easy going and as long as the kids do their work and are productive, i let a lot of things slide. The first time this happened, I kept saying no and she ignored my request. The second time it happened, it was in the library and I didn't want to make a scene. Today she thought she did it covertly by holding her phone low and walking past but I clearly saw her screen since i think snapchat uses only the front facing camera?

I feel like i'm going to get into a ricegum situation and yank her phone out of her hand and throw it against the wall the next time this happens. I've told her the first time that it was an invasion of privacy and to please stop and she didn't listen.

Should i take this to the administration or will they laugh at me? I asked her 'would you do this to another teacher, it's weird' and she laughed and goes 'sure sometimes, they wouldn't care' - but i think that was a bs answer. I didn't want to pull her out of class and talk to her one on one about in the hall way either - i felt that would look weird since i'm not a regular teacher.

please advise.

Hi OP,

You likely know this, but many parents are oblivious:

- school kids constantly take photos of each other without permission. Then they use the photos to humiliate each other on social media. This humiliation by phone is the new normal.

I work with youth. They have all told me how stressful school is for them, because they feel they are constantly watched. They ARE constantly watched.

Any potentially embarrasing moment can and is caught by some other kid with a phone. Only now, the embarrasing moment is easily shared with most of the school over Social Media, and it gets played over and over and over.

Parents think social media is innocent and fun. It is not innocent. It is toxic the way it is used to humiliate in schools every day.

Sorry you are going through this.

[Anonymous]

I would call the parent and tell that you are going to get law enforcement involved if this happens again.

[Anonymous]

Check the school district’s Code of Student Conduct first to see if she is breaking any rules specifically listed there. This may be available online. As a sub, do you have access to her schedule in order to talk with other teachers she may have? They may have similar issues and can tell you how they dealt with it. Do you have a department lunch room or department chair? You may want to talk informally with other teachers to see how a veteran teacher would handle it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is an example of why many teachers quit. Students get away with everything. Sounds like this kid has never faced any real consequences and boldly ignores the rules. I'm a teacher and would email my admin about this. I would request a meeting and discuss what they plan on doing about this student. If nothing happens, go to your union rep.

You are trying to blame the students here.

But are you even aware students in public schools are very often victims of childhood traumas? Usually this maifests in untreated social and emotional deficits, which arent their fault, and which our society lets go unaddressed or under-addressed, especially in in under-resourced communities. Stop blaming the victim!

[Anonymous]

Agree tell her she’s cringy/creepy

[Anonymous]

Op here - woah not sure why this thread got bumped up from almost 5 years ago.

Suffice to say I don’t sub/teach anymore. It was for a short period of my life.

I can only imagine things being so much worse these days especially post covid. Clearly this being bumped means others have had issues also with this.

Anyways, to the posters saying : “just call her creepy” , yeah that would’ve worked for sure but the student was a poc girl in a majority white school and I didn’t want to roast her like that in front of her classmates, especially since I was an early 30s male teacher at that time. i Was concerned how that might affect her/make her feel. If it was a basic white girl, I would’ve been more assertive in calling her creepy..

I actually ran into said former student last year at our local coffee shop and she is in her senior year in college now and she sat down at the table I was at and chatted for 5 mins about college/life. Before she got up to leave she said she had a crush on me in hs and apologized for being an a-hole about taking pictures.

[Anonymous]

Most schools have phone use or social media policies.
It could also fall under harassment or bullying rules. Yes teachers can get bullied by students.
I would not put up with this.
I'm sorry OP.