Intent to re-enroll form?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So when should I go to my IB school to enroll in K? Obviously before May 1, but how early do they want to see you ideally?

When they announce enrollment is open. Are you on their distribution list?

Is "they" DCPS or the individual school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We waited until the last possible minute to submit ours. It was literally the last day or school or close to it. I was worried that my kid would be treated differently if they knew we weren't returning. As it turns out, we got a dirty look and some grumbling from the school receptionist once we turned the form in, so I'm glad we waited.

The grumble was because you waited!

+1 exactly. It’s selfish not to make your plans clear and if you’re staying, you only risk hurting your kid by setting them up for over crowded classrooms because you couldn’t be bothered to help your school community plan.

That might be true for some schools, but not this one. This was a school that does not garner much love here on DCUM and is plenty familiar with students leaving in droves after PK. The staff was just grouchy that we weren't staying, as evidenced by the comments about the new school. Other parents who turned in their forms earlier than we did had the same experience, so I'm glad we waited and didn't have to deal with that attitude the rest of the school year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So when should I go to my IB school to enroll in K? Obviously before May 1, but how early do they want to see you ideally?

When they announce enrollment is open. Are you on their distribution list?

Is "they" DCPS or the individual school?

The school - you submit to the individual school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So when should I go to my IB school to enroll in K? Obviously before May 1, but how early do they want to see you ideally?

When they announce enrollment is open. Are you on their distribution list?

Is "they" DCPS or the individual school?

The school - you submit to the individual school.

Yes, but does the enrollment timeline vary with the individual school?

[Anonymous]

It is to allow the school to plan for the following year - for class size, teacher hiring budgets, how many OOB seats to make available in the lottery, etc.

(the school coordinates their planning and requests with DCPS - ie. getting additional hiring authorization, being able to right size lottery decisions, etc).

It is in YOUR CHILD'S interest to turn in the form if you are returning to turn it in asap.

If you don't turn it in, it's basically already indicating you are not returning, so the PP who seemed to feel she was 'gaming' her school's leadership admin staff in some way is ridiculous. (And if you aren't returning and don't want to say where you are going, you can leave that blank).

[Anonymous]

^^ Exactly. Just don’t fill it in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We waited until the last possible minute to submit ours. It was literally the last day or school or close to it. I was worried that my kid would be treated differently if they knew we weren't returning. As it turns out, we got a dirty look and some grumbling from the school receptionist once we turned the form in, so I'm glad we waited.

The grumble was because you waited!

Yup. I actually bet they were glad you left since you're a family that waited until last minute to turn in important forms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We waited until the last possible minute to submit ours. It was literally the last day or school or close to it. I was worried that my kid would be treated differently if they knew we weren't returning. As it turns out, we got a dirty look and some grumbling from the school receptionist once we turned the form in, so I'm glad we waited.

The grumble was because you waited!

+1 exactly. It’s selfish not to make your plans clear and if you’re staying, you only risk hurting your kid by setting them up for over crowded classrooms because you couldn’t be bothered to help your school community plan.

That might be true for some schools, but not this one. This was a school that does not garner much love here on DCUM and is plenty familiar with students leaving in droves after PK. The staff was just grouchy that we weren't staying, as evidenced by the comments about the new school. Other parents who turned in their forms earlier than we did had the same experience, so I'm glad we waited and didn't have to deal with that attitude the rest of the school year.

How did they know the new school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is to allow the school to plan for the following year - for class size, teacher hiring budgets, how many OOB seats to make available in the lottery, etc.

(the school coordinates their planning and requests with DCPS - ie. getting additional hiring authorization, being able to right size lottery decisions, etc).

It is in YOUR CHILD'S interest to turn in the form if you are returning to turn it in asap.

If you don't turn it in, it's basically already indicating you are not returning, so the PP who seemed to feel she was 'gaming' her school's leadership admin staff in some way is ridiculous. (And if you aren't returning and don't want to say where you are going, you can leave that blank).

Not necessarily true. We had a few families wait until the first day of school to drop off re-enrollment forms. Then were mad their kid wasn't on our class list and had nothing labeled like every other kid.

There should be a deadline, if only for out of boundary. Don't want to re-enroll? Good, we can easily fill your seat from the waitlist and you can go to your IB school.

[Anonymous]

As soon as possible! For DC age cohort, the prompt return of the registration ensured we were able to keep smaller class sizes by having an additional class at the grade level as the group moved up the next year. HUGE improvement.

K- 1st year- 29-30 kids per class
First grade- 2nd year- 22 kids per class
2nd grade- 3rd year- 22-23 kids per class

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As soon as possible! For DC age cohort, the prompt return of the registration ensured we were able to keep smaller class sizes by having an additional class at the grade level as the group moved up the next year. HUGE improvement.

K- 1st year- 29-30 kids per class
First grade- 2nd year- 22 kids per class
2nd grade- 3rd year- 22-23 kids per class

I just called our school about when to register for K, and they said not before April 1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We waited until the last possible minute to submit ours. It was literally the last day or school or close to it. I was worried that my kid would be treated differently if they knew we weren't returning. As it turns out, we got a dirty look and some grumbling from the school receptionist once we turned the form in, so I'm glad we waited.

The grumble was because you waited!

Yup. I actually bet they were glad you left since you're a family that waited until last minute to turn in important forms.

LOL. Ok, sure. We actually did turn it in on time. That's the whole point of a deadline, isn't it? If the school actually needed the information sooner, it should have set an earlier deadline. So if the school is happy that we left because we didn't complete the re-enrollment form earlier than the stated deadline, let's just say I'm not losing any sleep!

And that being my first year in DCPS, I wasn't aware that I could choose to omit information about the new school we would be attending. When I asked the front office whether they actually needed that information, I was told they did because they needed to know where to send my child's school records. In hindsight, I think it was a load of BS and they just want info on what schools are poaching their students, but I dutifully filled out that portion of the form as well. To be clear, there was no grumbling when I handed her the form (as there wouldn't be, because it wasn't late). It was only after the woman read my form as I was standing there that she made the snarky remark about the new school. So, as I said, I'm glad we waited until the last second to turn in the form because people at this particular school had no problem letting you know how they felt if you were leaving. I can handle it, but I didn't want my 3 year old to have to deal with that.

It seems like a lot of the PPs expressing outrage at the fact that I waited until the deadline to turn in the form must live in overcrowded school districts or have kids at highly sought after schools where enrollment information, open slots and waitlist offers are closely followed. In those situations, I can understand the argument for giving the school the necessary information well in advance and if I had been in that situation, I may have handled it differently. But that's not the case at the EOTP school where this happened. This school is what DCUM-land would consider a "last resort". There is severe under-enrollment, so there's no reason for the school to be worried about keeping class sizes small. Classes get shuffled and OOB kids get called off the waitlist even after the school year starts, so nothing is "set" before the first day of school. There is more than enough room for IB kids at all grade levels, including PK. My child had a good year there, but the school's ability, or in ability, to determine their needs for the next school year has nothing to do with whether parents submitted re-enrollment forms right away, or waited until the day of the deadline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We waited until the last possible minute to submit ours. It was literally the last day or school or close to it. I was worried that my kid would be treated differently if they knew we weren't returning. As it turns out, we got a dirty look and some grumbling from the school receptionist once we turned the form in, so I'm glad we waited.

The grumble was because you waited!

Yup. I actually bet they were glad you left since you're a family that waited until last minute to turn in important forms.

LOL. Ok, sure. We actually did turn it in on time. That's the whole point of a deadline, isn't it? If the school actually needed the information sooner, it should have set an earlier deadline. So if the school is happy that we left because we didn't complete the re-enrollment form earlier than the stated deadline, let's just say I'm not losing any sleep!

And that being my first year in DCPS, I wasn't aware that I could choose to omit information about the new school we would be attending. When I asked the front office whether they actually needed that information, I was told they did because they needed to know where to send my child's school records. In hindsight, I think it was a load of BS and they just want info on what schools are poaching their students, but I dutifully filled out that portion of the form as well. To be clear, there was no grumbling when I handed her the form (as there wouldn't be, because it wasn't late). It was only after the woman read my form as I was standing there that she made the snarky remark about the new school. So, as I said, I'm glad we waited until the last second to turn in the form because people at this particular school had no problem letting you know how they felt if you were leaving. I can handle it, but I didn't want my 3 year old to have to deal with that.

It seems like a lot of the PPs expressing outrage at the fact that I waited until the deadline to turn in the form must live in overcrowded school districts or have kids at highly sought after schools where enrollment information, open slots and waitlist offers are closely followed. In those situations, I can understand the argument for giving the school the necessary information well in advance and if I had been in that situation, I may have handled it differently. But that's not the case at the EOTP school where this happened. This school is what DCUM-land would consider a "last resort". There is severe under-enrollment, so there's no reason for the school to be worried about keeping class sizes small. Classes get shuffled and OOB kids get called off the waitlist even after the school year starts, so nothing is "set" before the first day of school. There is more than enough room for IB kids at all grade levels, including PK. My child had a good year there, but the school's ability, or in ability, to determine their needs for the next school year has nothing to do with whether parents submitted re-enrollment forms right away, or waited until the day of the deadline.

Budgets are also set by enrollment numbers. If you're right that it's under enrolled, every X number of students becomes a lost staff member. Maybe the secretary just accepted 10 leaving forms and knows they will lose staffing. Maybe she had a bad day. Maybe the parent before you was rude. As we say in Kindergarten, little deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We waited until the last possible minute to submit ours. It was literally the last day or school or close to it. I was worried that my kid would be treated differently if they knew we weren't returning. As it turns out, we got a dirty look and some grumbling from the school receptionist once we turned the form in, so I'm glad we waited.

The grumble was because you waited!

Yup. I actually bet they were glad you left since you're a family that waited until last minute to turn in important forms.

LOL. Ok, sure. We actually did turn it in on time. That's the whole point of a deadline, isn't it? If the school actually needed the information sooner, it should have set an earlier deadline. So if the school is happy that we left because we didn't complete the re-enrollment form earlier than the stated deadline, let's just say I'm not losing any sleep!

And that being my first year in DCPS, I wasn't aware that I could choose to omit information about the new school we would be attending. When I asked the front office whether they actually needed that information, I was told they did because they needed to know where to send my child's school records. In hindsight, I think it was a load of BS and they just want info on what schools are poaching their students, but I dutifully filled out that portion of the form as well. To be clear, there was no grumbling when I handed her the form (as there wouldn't be, because it wasn't late). It was only after the woman read my form as I was standing there that she made the snarky remark about the new school. So, as I said, I'm glad we waited until the last second to turn in the form because people at this particular school had no problem letting you know how they felt if you were leaving. I can handle it, but I didn't want my 3 year old to have to deal with that.

It seems like a lot of the PPs expressing outrage at the fact that I waited until the deadline to turn in the form must live in overcrowded school districts or have kids at highly sought after schools where enrollment information, open slots and waitlist offers are closely followed. In those situations, I can understand the argument for giving the school the necessary information well in advance and if I had been in that situation, I may have handled it differently. But that's not the case at the EOTP school where this happened. This school is what DCUM-land would consider a "last resort". There is severe under-enrollment, so there's no reason for the school to be worried about keeping class sizes small. Classes get shuffled and OOB kids get called off the waitlist even after the school year starts, so nothing is "set" before the first day of school. There is more than enough room for IB kids at all grade levels, including PK. My child had a good year there, but the school's ability, or in ability, to determine their needs for the next school year has nothing to do with whether parents submitted re-enrollment forms right away, or waited until the day of the deadline.

Budgets are also set by enrollment numbers. If you're right that it's under enrolled, every X number of students becomes a lost staff member. Maybe the secretary just accepted 10 leaving forms and knows they will lose staffing. Maybe she had a bad day. Maybe the parent before you was rude. As we say in Kindergarten, little deal.

At Janney, they don't even want IB kids to enroll until April (I called and asked). So clearly it's not overcrowded schools per se that are in need of extra-early prospective enrollment data.

[Anonymous]

If you move OOB do you have to notify the school so that you can re-enroll as OOB the following year?