federal government full time telework positions/agencies? (or unicorn wishes?)

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Anonymous wrote:my first child is due in April 2018 and in reevaluating my life (as one does before first baby) I would like a full time telework position with the federal government. JD with 4 years of fed. govt. experience in procurement, full time, and up for my GS-14 promotion in May 2018.

any advice on how to even begin the search for these virtual positions, tips or tricks, or what has worked for you or whether these even exist? can you recommend agencies that have full time telework options, I know GSA is one of the top ones? i'm also not sure how to apply to these GS-14 positions as many are supervisory.

Let me guess you want to Telework and avoid paying for childcare for your baby.

She probably wants to avoid the waste of time of commute. Nearly everyone knows that working full time you still need full time childcare. (I teleworked for 7 years...I started before I had my first kid. I had a full-time nanny but did not have to waste time commuting, which saved 2 hours a day and saved me from paying a nanny overtime over 40 hours.)

Maybe, but a few times a year some woman pregnant with her first starts asking to Telework while also talking about how much she will save not using childcare. The answer is always a firm no, but don't act like people aren't trying to have their cake and eat it too

DP. I have never heard this. My agency is crystal clear that if you are going to telework you still need full time childcare. This applies even if you just do it ad hoc occasionally. No one is confused about it.

Being confused about the rules and following the rules are very different things. I can't tell you how many times kids in the background interrupt calls with folks who are "teleworking."

Exactly! Or ignoring the rules and following the rules are two very different things

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The only person I know that has a Fed job and works from home ALL the time works for the Patent Office.

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Anonymous wrote:My agency is very flexible with respect to telework, but none of the lawyers telework full time, and none of the managers telework much. The more senior someone is, the less likely he or she is to telework regularly (everyone does it on an ad hoc basis from time to time). If you can be flexible and look for something more like 2 or 3 day/week telework, that will expand your options.

I’d be willing to forego the attorney position for a different series, I thought I’d have to anyway for a GS14 - all my previous agencies had a max one day routine telework with some situational telework. The 2/3 day would work commute wise but I was under impression these were even more difficult to find.

Are you the op? I thought you want to relocate near your parents? How does commuting 2-3 days a week work with that?

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Anonymous wrote:my first child is due in April 2018 and in reevaluating my life (as one does before first baby) I would like a full time telework position with the federal government. JD with 4 years of fed. govt. experience in procurement, full time, and up for my GS-14 promotion in May 2018.

any advice on how to even begin the search for these virtual positions, tips or tricks, or what has worked for you or whether these even exist? can you recommend agencies that have full time telework options, I know GSA is one of the top ones? i'm also not sure how to apply to these GS-14 positions as many are supervisory.

Let me guess you want to Telework and avoid paying for childcare for your baby.

She probably wants to avoid the waste of time of commute. Nearly everyone knows that working full time you still need full time childcare. (I teleworked for 7 years...I started before I had my first kid. I had a full-time nanny but did not have to waste time commuting, which saved 2 hours a day and saved me from paying a nanny overtime over 40 hours.)

Maybe, but a few times a year some woman pregnant with her first starts asking to Telework while also talking about how much she will save not using childcare. The answer is always a firm no, but don't act like people aren't trying to have their cake and eat it too

DP. I have never heard this. My agency is crystal clear that if you are going to telework you still need full time childcare. This applies even if you just do it ad hoc occasionally. No one is confused about it.

Being confused about the rules and following the rules are very different things. I can't tell you how many times kids in the background interrupt calls with folks who are "teleworking."

Exactly! Or ignoring the rules and following the rules are two very different things

You can have full time childcare and your children can still come in the room when you're on the phone. It's not like the rule is they must be locked away out of your sight. My kids walk in all the time and make noise but they're being looked after by someone else.

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Anonymous wrote:My agency is very flexible with respect to telework, but none of the lawyers telework full time, and none of the managers telework much. The more senior someone is, the less likely he or she is to telework regularly (everyone does it on an ad hoc basis from time to time). If you can be flexible and look for something more like 2 or 3 day/week telework, that will expand your options.

I’d be willing to forego the attorney position for a different series, I thought I’d have to anyway for a GS14 - all my previous agencies had a max one day routine telework with some situational telework. The 2/3 day would work commute wise but I was under impression these were even more difficult to find.

Are you the op? I thought you want to relocate near your parents? How does commuting 2-3 days a week work with that?

I am, sorry about not clarifying. Because with DH at home, parents availabe for emergencies, and nanny available, I would feel sane doing a ridiculous commute twice a week as opposed to four times a week. But maybe I’m being naive on the reality of this. I just don’t to stop working and have a gap in my career but I want my child (and future children) to be close to their grandparents and for me to be close to my parents. I do not seen them often, I miss spending time with them, I want to move

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Anonymous wrote:my first child is due in April 2018 and in reevaluating my life (as one does before first baby) I would like a full time telework position with the federal government. JD with 4 years of fed. govt. experience in procurement, full time, and up for my GS-14 promotion in May 2018.

any advice on how to even begin the search for these virtual positions, tips or tricks, or what has worked for you or whether these even exist? can you recommend agencies that have full time telework options, I know GSA is one of the top ones? i'm also not sure how to apply to these GS-14 positions as many are supervisory.

Let me guess you want to Telework and avoid paying for childcare for your baby.

She probably wants to avoid the waste of time of commute. Nearly everyone knows that working full time you still need full time childcare. (I teleworked for 7 years...I started before I had my first kid. I had a full-time nanny but did not have to waste time commuting, which saved 2 hours a day and saved me from paying a nanny overtime over 40 hours.)

Maybe, but a few times a year some woman pregnant with her first starts asking to Telework while also talking about how much she will save not using childcare. The answer is always a firm no, but don't act like people aren't trying to have their cake and eat it too

DP. I have never heard this. My agency is crystal clear that if you are going to telework you still need full time childcare. This applies even if you just do it ad hoc occasionally. No one is confused about it.

Being confused about the rules and following the rules are very different things. I can't tell you how many times kids in the background interrupt calls with folks who are "teleworking."

Exactly! Or ignoring the rules and following the rules are two very different things

You can have full time childcare and your children can still come in the room when you're on the phone. It's not like the rule is they must be locked away out of your sight. My kids walk in all the time and make noise but they're being looked after by someone else.

For those of you working in agencies where everyone adheres to the rules, it must be nice. Some of us work at agencies where there is a blatant disregard for telework rules. Mothers doing it instead of childcare and not really working. Single people sitting by the pool on nice days and occasionally checking their mobile devices. People spending their telework day running errands, going to the mall, etc. I know of people who have, and continue to do, all of these things.

Specifically, I knew of three people who used telework to avoid paying for a full time nanny - all only worked occasionally during the day, and then ramped it up during naps and once their spouses arrived home. They definitely are not working full time from home, and they are not fully available as one should be when teleworking. All have been reported, but no one seems to care. So, indeed, while it should not happen and it is against the telework rules, it definitely does happen.

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Anonymous wrote:My agency is very flexible with respect to telework, but none of the lawyers telework full time, and none of the managers telework much. The more senior someone is, the less likely he or she is to telework regularly (everyone does it on an ad hoc basis from time to time). If you can be flexible and look for something more like 2 or 3 day/week telework, that will expand your options.

I’d be willing to forego the attorney position for a different series, I thought I’d have to anyway for a GS14 - all my previous agencies had a max one day routine telework with some situational telework. The 2/3 day would work commute wise but I was under impression these were even more difficult to find.

Are you the op? I thought you want to relocate near your parents? How does commuting 2-3 days a week work with that?

I am, sorry about not clarifying. Because with DH at home, parents availabe for emergencies, and nanny available, I would feel sane doing a ridiculous commute twice a week as opposed to four times a week. But maybe I’m being naive on the reality of this. I just don’t to stop working and have a gap in my career but I want my child (and future children) to be close to their grandparents and for me to be close to my parents. I do not seen them often, I miss spending time with them, I want to move

That's another can of worms...how insane would the commute be? You might think you would feel ok with it now but once the kid is here and you don't see it for 2 or 3 entire days because you leave before kid is awake and return and after bedtime..

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Anonymous wrote:my first child is due in April 2018 and in reevaluating my life (as one does before first baby) I would like a full time telework position with the federal government. JD with 4 years of fed. govt. experience in procurement, full time, and up for my GS-14 promotion in May 2018.

any advice on how to even begin the search for these virtual positions, tips or tricks, or what has worked for you or whether these even exist? can you recommend agencies that have full time telework options, I know GSA is one of the top ones? i'm also not sure how to apply to these GS-14 positions as many are supervisory.

Let me guess you want to Telework and avoid paying for childcare for your baby.

She probably wants to avoid the waste of time of commute. Nearly everyone knows that working full time you still need full time childcare. (I teleworked for 7 years...I started before I had my first kid. I had a full-time nanny but did not have to waste time commuting, which saved 2 hours a day and saved me from paying a nanny overtime over 40 hours.)

Maybe, but a few times a year some woman pregnant with her first starts asking to Telework while also talking about how much she will save not using childcare. The answer is always a firm no, but don't act like people aren't trying to have their cake and eat it too

DP. I have never heard this. My agency is crystal clear that if you are going to telework you still need full time childcare. This applies even if you just do it ad hoc occasionally. No one is confused about it.

Being confused about the rules and following the rules are very different things. I can't tell you how many times kids in the background interrupt calls with folks who are "teleworking."

Exactly! Or ignoring the rules and following the rules are two very different things

You can have full time childcare and your children can still come in the room when you're on the phone. It's not like the rule is they must be locked away out of your sight. My kids walk in all the time and make noise but they're being looked after by someone else.

Clearly they are not be looked after if they walk in all the time and make noise. You should fire your nanny or whoever it is not watching your kids.

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Have your parents move near you instead if you so desperately need your children to see them every day.

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I can’t imagine wanting to telework at home full time with a baby, full time teleworking DH and a nanny. Seems chaotic and I wouldn’t get much done. Imagine the meetings/calls at the same time.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine wanting to telework at home full time with a baby, full time teleworking DH and a nanny. Seems chaotic and I wouldn’t get much done. Imagine the meetings/calls at the same time.

This. Honestly OP you have not thought this through at all. Sure it sounds appealing and like you could have your cake and eat it too, but this situation sounds chaotic. Think about when your baby is a toddler and mobile and knows that everyone is home and barging in on you all day..

Also to the idea that you would travel far away 2 days a week sounds good in theory but once the baby is here you will hate that arrangement and being away from your baby.

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Anonymous wrote:my first child is due in April 2018 and in reevaluating my life (as one does before first baby) I would like a full time telework position with the federal government. JD with 4 years of fed. govt. experience in procurement, full time, and up for my GS-14 promotion in May 2018.

any advice on how to even begin the search for these virtual positions, tips or tricks, or what has worked for you or whether these even exist? can you recommend agencies that have full time telework options, I know GSA is one of the top ones? i'm also not sure how to apply to these GS-14 positions as many are supervisory.

Let me guess you want to Telework and avoid paying for childcare for your baby.

She probably wants to avoid the waste of time of commute. Nearly everyone knows that working full time you still need full time childcare. (I teleworked for 7 years...I started before I had my first kid. I had a full-time nanny but did not have to waste time commuting, which saved 2 hours a day and saved me from paying a nanny overtime over 40 hours.)

Maybe, but a few times a year some woman pregnant with her first starts asking to Telework while also talking about how much she will save not using childcare. The answer is always a firm no, but don't act like people aren't trying to have their cake and eat it too

DP. I have never heard this. My agency is crystal clear that if you are going to telework you still need full time childcare. This applies even if you just do it ad hoc occasionally. No one is confused about it.

Being confused about the rules and following the rules are very different things. I can't tell you how many times kids in the background interrupt calls with folks who are "teleworking."

Exactly! Or ignoring the rules and following the rules are two very different things

You can have full time childcare and your children can still come in the room when you're on the phone. It's not like the rule is they must be locked away out of your sight. My kids walk in all the time and make noise but they're being looked after by someone else.

For those of you working in agencies where everyone adheres to the rules, it must be nice. Some of us work at agencies where there is a blatant disregard for telework rules. Mothers doing it instead of childcare and not really working. Single people sitting by the pool on nice days and occasionally checking their mobile devices. People spending their telework day running errands, going to the mall, etc. I know of people who have, and continue to do, all of these things.

Specifically, I knew of three people who used telework to avoid paying for a full time nanny - all only worked occasionally during the day, and then ramped it up during naps and once their spouses arrived home. They definitely are not working full time from home, and they are not fully available as one should be when teleworking. All have been reported, but no one seems to care. So, indeed, while it should not happen and it is against the telework rules, it definitely does happen.

We get it. You don't like telecommuting. But do you also have such disdain for men who shoot the sh$t at work for hours? I know men who do very little at work.

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Federal attorney here. These posts come up a lot. Asking which agencies have these positions is way too broad. You need to concentrate on divisions, branches, offices, particular supervisors. It's on a case by case basis. And I can't think of a manager who wants to hire a brand new attorney and never see that person, except perhaps as others have said, in the Patent Office.

If procurement is your field, you need to accept that for probably at least six months in any position, you will have to "make your bones" in the office. Perhaps that will include 2-3 days of telework every pay period. After that, you can make a pitch to go full time, which will certainly still involve coming in for divisional and client meetings. I don't know anyone on "full time telework" in my agency who does not come into HQ sometimes for some reason.

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The childcare person has completely derailed this thread. OP plans to have a nanny so please just drop it and refocus.

OP, I am a fed lawyer with telework 2 days/week. Completely sympathetic to your situation as I have a long commute and out of state parents. My agency won't allow full time telework for lawyers but does have a couple of former employees who became contractors and are full time remote outside the DC area. You may want to look at something like that with your current agency instead of trying to make your reputation at a new place.

Also, it's possible to be productive with kid and nanny at home but you must be disciplined about it. Go to your office, shut the door, and have scheduled breaks. This will not work if your kid can walk in any time and disrupt you.

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Anonymous wrote:Dep of treasury

Tell me more about this. Which part? Is it office specific?