Need special needs lower elementary

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn't Maddux take a child with tantrums or willfulness due to anxiety? I know several kids who have regular tantrums who went to Maddux recently and did great there. Their tantrums are short-lived, though, so it depends on what you mean by tantrum. If it's some stomping around, making faces and crying for a few minutes that might be okay. A full on screaming fit would work.

The op said she does okay if someone is right there helping. Maddux won't do that. Auburn or diener won't. There are limited options for privates. Eventually she may not need this, but she probably wouldn't make it through a school visit.

Auburn camp does exactly that for my kid, and they then accepted her for the school although we chose to stick with public instead.

Any school that caters to ASD has to accept at least some level of tantrums or they would have no students. An ADHD/Anxiety kid will have similar issues and usually will respond to the same behavioral supports as ASD kids.

Maddux won't do a one on one. Auburn camp might and help a child transition to school through fading this. Behavioral supports are different than needing a one-on-one.

Depends on what you mean by one-on-one. If you mean an individual aide assigned to one child all day, then yes, that is hard to come by. But it doesn't sound like OP's kid needs that and my kid didn't need it either. What she did need is individual support when she had her behaviors, and they provided that. I don't know why Maddux wouldn't do it. The people at their sister school, Ivymount, literally wrote the book on it.

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn't Maddux take a child with tantrums or willfulness due to anxiety? I know several kids who have regular tantrums who went to Maddux recently and did great there. Their tantrums are short-lived, though, so it depends on what you mean by tantrum. If it's some stomping around, making faces and crying for a few minutes that might be okay. A full on screaming fit would work.

The op said she does okay if someone is right there helping. Maddux won't do that. Auburn or diener won't. There are limited options for privates. Eventually she may not need this, but she probably wouldn't make it through a school visit.

Auburn camp does exactly that for my kid, and they then accepted her for the school although we chose to stick with public instead.

Any school that caters to ASD has to accept at least some level of tantrums or they would have no students. An ADHD/Anxiety kid will have similar issues and usually will respond to the same behavioral supports as ASD kids.

Maddux won't do a one on one. Auburn camp might and help a child transition to school through fading this. Behavioral supports are different than needing a one-on-one.

Depends on what you mean by one-on-one. If you mean an individual aide assigned to one child all day, then yes, that is hard to come by. But it doesn't sound like OP's kid needs that and my kid didn't need it either. What she did need is individual support when she had her behaviors, and they provided that. I don't know why Maddux wouldn't do it. The people at their sister school, Ivymount, literally wrote the book on it.

Have you applied at maddux or talked to Andrea? There is no possible way they would deal with this level of behavioral issues. They don’t even take more severe adhd. They take kids with quiet adhd or mild asd who can sit.

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn't Maddux take a child with tantrums or willfulness due to anxiety? I know several kids who have regular tantrums who went to Maddux recently and did great there. Their tantrums are short-lived, though, so it depends on what you mean by tantrum. If it's some stomping around, making faces and crying for a few minutes that might be okay. A full on screaming fit would work.

The op said she does okay if someone is right there helping. Maddux won't do that. Auburn or diener won't. There are limited options for privates. Eventually she may not need this, but she probably wouldn't make it through a school visit.

Auburn camp does exactly that for my kid, and they then accepted her for the school although we chose to stick with public instead.

Any school that caters to ASD has to accept at least some level of tantrums or they would have no students. An ADHD/Anxiety kid will have similar issues and usually will respond to the same behavioral supports as ASD kids.

Maddux won't do a one on one. Auburn camp might and help a child transition to school through fading this. Behavioral supports are different than needing a one-on-one.

Depends on what you mean by one-on-one. If you mean an individual aide assigned to one child all day, then yes, that is hard to come by. But it doesn't sound like OP's kid needs that and my kid didn't need it either. What she did need is individual support when she had her behaviors, and they provided that. I don't know why Maddux wouldn't do it. The people at their sister school, Ivymount, literally wrote the book on it.

Have you applied at maddux or talked to Andrea? There is no possible way they would deal with this level of behavioral issues. They don’t even take more severe adhd. They take kids with quiet adhd or mild asd who can sit.

Have you applied at Auburn? Do you have an ASD kid?

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn't Maddux take a child with tantrums or willfulness due to anxiety? I know several kids who have regular tantrums who went to Maddux recently and did great there. Their tantrums are short-lived, though, so it depends on what you mean by tantrum. If it's some stomping around, making faces and crying for a few minutes that might be okay. A full on screaming fit would work.

The op said she does okay if someone is right there helping. Maddux won't do that. Auburn or diener won't. There are limited options for privates. Eventually she may not need this, but she probably wouldn't make it through a school visit.

Auburn camp does exactly that for my kid, and they then accepted her for the school although we chose to stick with public instead.

Any school that caters to ASD has to accept at least some level of tantrums or they would have no students. An ADHD/Anxiety kid will have similar issues and usually will respond to the same behavioral supports as ASD kids.

Maddux won't do a one on one. Auburn camp might and help a child transition to school through fading this. Behavioral supports are different than needing a one-on-one.

Depends on what you mean by one-on-one. If you mean an individual aide assigned to one child all day, then yes, that is hard to come by. But it doesn't sound like OP's kid needs that and my kid didn't need it either. What she did need is individual support when she had her behaviors, and they provided that. I don't know why Maddux wouldn't do it. The people at their sister school, Ivymount, literally wrote the book on it.

Have you applied at maddux or talked to Andrea? There is no possible way they would deal with this level of behavioral issues. They don’t even take more severe adhd. They take kids with quiet adhd or mild asd who can sit.

Have you applied at Auburn? Do you have an ASD kid?

No. And nor does op. I have a child with significant adhd and anxiety like op.

Op, we are at Diener for k. Some kids do have behavioral issues.

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Op, there's always a possibility your kid could be accepted at any of the schools mentioned, but if you were also looking at lourie, your kid could likely be kicked out from any of them as well. (The exception would probably be ivymount.) so expect the best, but plan for the worst.

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn't Maddux take a child with tantrums or willfulness due to anxiety? I know several kids who have regular tantrums who went to Maddux recently and did great there. Their tantrums are short-lived, though, so it depends on what you mean by tantrum. If it's some stomping around, making faces and crying for a few minutes that might be okay. A full on screaming fit would work.

The op said she does okay if someone is right there helping. Maddux won't do that. Auburn or diener won't. There are limited options for privates. Eventually she may not need this, but she probably wouldn't make it through a school visit.

Auburn camp does exactly that for my kid, and they then accepted her for the school although we chose to stick with public instead.

Any school that caters to ASD has to accept at least some level of tantrums or they would have no students. An ADHD/Anxiety kid will have similar issues and usually will respond to the same behavioral supports as ASD kids.

Maddux won't do a one on one. Auburn camp might and help a child transition to school through fading this. Behavioral supports are different than needing a one-on-one.

Depends on what you mean by one-on-one. If you mean an individual aide assigned to one child all day, then yes, that is hard to come by. But it doesn't sound like OP's kid needs that and my kid didn't need it either. What she did need is individual support when she had her behaviors, and they provided that. I don't know why Maddux wouldn't do it. The people at their sister school, Ivymount, literally wrote the book on it.

Have you applied at maddux or talked to Andrea? There is no possible way they would deal with this level of behavioral issues. They don’t even take more severe adhd. They take kids with quiet adhd or mild asd who can sit.

Have you applied at Auburn? Do you have an ASD kid?

No. And nor does op. I have a child with significant adhd and anxiety like op.

Op, we are at Diener for k. Some kids do have behavioral issues.

Then you can also consider Auburn and so can OP.

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OP, I have an older kid with the same profile. We tried public with IEP and switched to homeschooling. It has been the best choice I have ever made in my life. There are so many incredible resources in this area and I have found that I really enjoy homeschooling myself. Child is flourishing.

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For older kids there are more options. Commonwealth, Parkmount, etc. Hard for young kids.

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OP here. Just got in this morning and saw all your great responses. Really appreciated!

It's good to hear some of the profiles of the schools as it can be hard to tell from their web sites. Obviously I've scoured the archives as well.

Right now she is in a small private pre-k as we wanted to give her an extra year especially as we are trying two kinds of medication and it takes so long for things to stabilize with that.

Her outbursts are short, she can use mindfulness, and short breaks are sometimes not even needed. Because of her profile she does not always want to participate though, and that is disruptive too even if she plays quietly, according to her teacher. Her 1:1 we just hired (partially for our own sanity) and her therapist who came to observe feel that the school has no real clue how to help kids like ours so that is why I posted.

We will likely finish out the year there, though I am already homeschooling her some on my own in the afternoons. But I am really on the fence about next year. My son has anxiety and ADHD-inattentive and while he is flourishing in middle school now, elementary was less than stellar and he had a fantastic IEP. It just wasn't enough in many ways. And he was a lot more compliant than my littlest.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Just got in this morning and saw all your great responses. Really appreciated!

It's good to hear some of the profiles of the schools as it can be hard to tell from their web sites. Obviously I've scoured the archives as well.

Right now she is in a small private pre-k as we wanted to give her an extra year especially as we are trying two kinds of medication and it takes so long for things to stabilize with that.

Her outbursts are short, she can use mindfulness, and short breaks are sometimes not even needed. Because of her profile she does not always want to participate though, and that is disruptive too even if she plays quietly, according to her teacher. Her 1:1 we just hired (partially for our own sanity) and her therapist who came to observe feel that the school has no real clue how to help kids like ours so that is why I posted.

We will likely finish out the year there, though I am already homeschooling her some on my own in the afternoons. But I am really on the fence about next year. My son has anxiety and ADHD-inattentive and while he is flourishing in middle school now, elementary was less than stellar and he had a fantastic IEP. It just wasn't enough in many ways. And he was a lot more compliant than my littlest.

Former Maddux family here. I really encourage you to talk to Andrea; this profile sounds right up Maddux's alley. And girls have an easier time getting into most SN schools than boys because there are so few.

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In FCPS there are kids like this in the ED/CSS centers.

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OP. Question about applying to private special needs schools:

Do you go in with an IEP in hand? From the public school system or do they evaluate on their own as part of the admission process?

Do they accept your diagnoses in hand? We have evaluations from our child psych done this fall and pediatrician and speech/play therapist. Will they demand to have something else?

Also I forgot to add: every mainstream preschool (two different places) have had issues with DD (love her some days but can't handle her lack of participation or her anxiety attacks with crying), but the one therapeutic summer camp we did for two weeks where there were trained professionals in special needs with a small group was the most successful program she's ever done. They recognized anxiety and handled it beautifully.

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I can’t inagine Maddux taking a child that needed a one on one. If they say yes I would be very surprised - but she is a girl so there is that.

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She may not need the 1:1 in the right environment though.

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Anonymous wrote:She may not need the 1:1 in the right environment though.

Yes but she historically has needed one. That would be the red flag I would think.