Stuart Hobson Middle School?

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Anonymous wrote:Dozens of upper middle class families of all colors send their children to Stuart Hobson, and those children go on to myriad high schools and do very well in life. So yes, it's an option worth a closer look if you live on the Hill. But, the OOB availability will only get tougher as more neighborhood families (and those in feeder elementary schools - Watkins, LT, JO Wilson) choose the school. As an LT parent, I see more affluent kids in the upper grades, even transfers from other Hill schools, because parents want the option of Stuart Hobson. Of course they may end up elsewhere, but this is a good sign for SH in the coming 2-3 years.

Interesting. I know of a few families that live within 3 blocks of the school and chose to send dc across the city to another middle school rather than let dc walk 5 mins to SH.

Based on the recent numbers, I think the rising Hill MS families over the next 2 to 5 years are going to have much different choices than the current MS families. Latin is already really hard to get into and Basis is getting harder. Yes, some will move or go private but the next few years should be interesting.

I don't see much different choices in under a decade, not with the strongest Hill DCPS ES shut out of Hobson - Brent, Maury and SWS. It will be more like 10 years before either Ludlow or Watkins will be feeding mostly high SES kids to SH. Neither BASIS nor Latin has firm plans to open a second campus. The next few years will almost certainly be little different than the last few where MS goes. You'll see a slow, steady uptick in the number of white and high SES families at Hobson (breaking into the 20s, possibly low 30s) and that's about it.

Been on the Hill since the 90s, have ES age kids in a DCPS and can't share your optimism, not by a long shot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dozens of upper middle class families of all colors send their children to Stuart Hobson, and those children go on to myriad high schools and do very well in life. So yes, it's an option worth a closer look if you live on the Hill. But, the OOB availability will only get tougher as more neighborhood families (and those in feeder elementary schools - Watkins, LT, JO Wilson) choose the school. As an LT parent, I see more affluent kids in the upper grades, even transfers from other Hill schools, because parents want the option of Stuart Hobson. Of course they may end up elsewhere, but this is a good sign for SH in the coming 2-3 years.

Interesting. I know of a few families that live within 3 blocks of the school and chose to send dc across the city to another middle school rather than let dc walk 5 mins to SH.

Based on the recent numbers, I think the rising Hill MS families over the next 2 to 5 years are going to have much different choices than the current MS families. Latin is already really hard to get into and Basis is getting harder. Yes, some will move or go private but the next few years should be interesting.

I don't see much different choices in under a decade, not with the strongest Hill DCPS ES shut out of Hobson - Brent, Maury and SWS. It will be more like 10 years before either Ludlow or Watkins will be feeding mostly high SES kids to SH. Neither BASIS nor Latin has firm plans to open a second campus. The next few years will almost certainly be little different than the last few where MS goes. You'll see a slow, steady uptick in the number of white and high SES families at Hobson (breaking into the 20s, possibly low 30s) and that's about it.

Been on the Hill since the 90s, have ES age kids in a DCPS and can't share your optimism, not by a long shot.

Lots of SWS families IB for SH (as well as Ludlow Taylor). First rising 6th grade class this year. Not big numbers but a cohort.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dozens of upper middle class families of all colors send their children to Stuart Hobson, and those children go on to myriad high schools and do very well in life. So yes, it's an option worth a closer look if you live on the Hill. But, the OOB availability will only get tougher as more neighborhood families (and those in feeder elementary schools - Watkins, LT, JO Wilson) choose the school. As an LT parent, I see more affluent kids in the upper grades, even transfers from other Hill schools, because parents want the option of Stuart Hobson. Of course they may end up elsewhere, but this is a good sign for SH in the coming 2-3 years.

Interesting. I know of a few families that live within 3 blocks of the school and chose to send dc across the city to another middle school rather than let dc walk 5 mins to SH.

Based on the recent numbers, I think the rising Hill MS families over the next 2 to 5 years are going to have much different choices than the current MS families. Latin is already really hard to get into and Basis is getting harder. Yes, some will move or go private but the next few years should be interesting.

I don't see much different choices in under a decade, not with the strongest Hill DCPS ES shut out of Hobson - Brent, Maury and SWS. It will be more like 10 years before either Ludlow or Watkins will be feeding mostly high SES kids to SH. Neither BASIS nor Latin has firm plans to open a second campus. The next few years will almost certainly be little different than the last few where MS goes. You'll see a slow, steady uptick in the number of white and high SES families at Hobson (breaking into the 20s, possibly low 30s) and that's about it.

Been on the Hill since the 90s, have ES age kids in a DCPS and can't share your optimism, not by a long shot.

this is the worst kind of biased attitudes towards schools -- you assume a school needs affluent white kids to succeed. Not everyone buys into your definition of success.

Do everyone a favor and go/stay in the charter/private/move camp. You won't be missed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dozens of upper middle class families of all colors send their children to Stuart Hobson, and those children go on to myriad high schools and do very well in life. So yes, it's an option worth a closer look if you live on the Hill. But, the OOB availability will only get tougher as more neighborhood families (and those in feeder elementary schools - Watkins, LT, JO Wilson) choose the school. As an LT parent, I see more affluent kids in the upper grades, even transfers from other Hill schools, because parents want the option of Stuart Hobson. Of course they may end up elsewhere, but this is a good sign for SH in the coming 2-3 years.

Interesting. I know of a few families that live within 3 blocks of the school and chose to send dc across the city to another middle school rather than let dc walk 5 mins to SH.

Based on the recent numbers, I think the rising Hill MS families over the next 2 to 5 years are going to have much different choices than the current MS families. Latin is already really hard to get into and Basis is getting harder. Yes, some will move or go private but the next few years should be interesting.

I don't see much different choices in under a decade, not with the strongest Hill DCPS ES shut out of Hobson - Brent, Maury and SWS. It will be more like 10 years before either Ludlow or Watkins will be feeding mostly high SES kids to SH. Neither BASIS nor Latin has firm plans to open a second campus. The next few years will almost certainly be little different than the last few where MS goes. You'll see a slow, steady uptick in the number of white and high SES families at Hobson (breaking into the 20s, possibly low 30s) and that's about it.

Been on the Hill since the 90s, have ES age kids in a DCPS and can't share your optimism, not by a long shot.

Lots of SWS families IB for SH (as well as Ludlow Taylor). First rising 6th grade class this year. Not big numbers but a cohort.

Which school are you referring to and what do you mean by first rising 6th grade class?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dozens of upper middle class families of all colors send their children to Stuart Hobson, and those children go on to myriad high schools and do very well in life. So yes, it's an option worth a closer look if you live on the Hill. But, the OOB availability will only get tougher as more neighborhood families (and those in feeder elementary schools - Watkins, LT, JO Wilson) choose the school. As an LT parent, I see more affluent kids in the upper grades, even transfers from other Hill schools, because parents want the option of Stuart Hobson. Of course they may end up elsewhere, but this is a good sign for SH in the coming 2-3 years.

Interesting. I know of a few families that live within 3 blocks of the school and chose to send dc across the city to another middle school rather than let dc walk 5 mins to SH.

Based on the recent numbers, I think the rising Hill MS families over the next 2 to 5 years are going to have much different choices than the current MS families. Latin is already really hard to get into and Basis is getting harder. Yes, some will move or go private but the next few years should be interesting.

I don't see much different choices in under a decade, not with the strongest Hill DCPS ES shut out of Hobson - Brent, Maury and SWS. It will be more like 10 years before either Ludlow or Watkins will be feeding mostly high SES kids to SH. Neither BASIS nor Latin has firm plans to open a second campus. The next few years will almost certainly be little different than the last few where MS goes. You'll see a slow, steady uptick in the number of white and high SES families at Hobson (breaking into the 20s, possibly low 30s) and that's about it.

Been on the Hill since the 90s, have ES age kids in a DCPS and can't share your optimism, not by a long shot.

this is the worst kind of biased attitudes towards schools -- you assume a school needs affluent white kids to succeed. Not everyone buys into your definition of success.

Do everyone a favor and go/stay in the charter/private/move camp. You won't be missed.

No, it's an attitude rooted in a large corpus of academic research on how to construct high-performing public middle and high schools. When most of the kids are high SES, all boats rise with the tide. When most kids are low SES and minority, you get a Banneker. That fabulous application DC public HS where average SAT scores barely clear the national average. I'm not white and certainly didn't grow up affluent (qualified for free lunch through middle school), but I was extremely fortunate to attend a middle school, and high school, where most classmates were high SES. I graduated from MIT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dozens of upper middle class families of all colors send their children to Stuart Hobson, and those children go on to myriad high schools and do very well in life. So yes, it's an option worth a closer look if you live on the Hill. But, the OOB availability will only get tougher as more neighborhood families (and those in feeder elementary schools - Watkins, LT, JO Wilson) choose the school. As an LT parent, I see more affluent kids in the upper grades, even transfers from other Hill schools, because parents want the option of Stuart Hobson. Of course they may end up elsewhere, but this is a good sign for SH in the coming 2-3 years.

Interesting. I know of a few families that live within 3 blocks of the school and chose to send dc across the city to another middle school rather than let dc walk 5 mins to SH.

Based on the recent numbers, I think the rising Hill MS families over the next 2 to 5 years are going to have much different choices than the current MS families. Latin is already really hard to get into and Basis is getting harder. Yes, some will move or go private but the next few years should be interesting.

I don't see much different choices in under a decade, not with the strongest Hill DCPS ES shut out of Hobson - Brent, Maury and SWS. It will be more like 10 years before either Ludlow or Watkins will be feeding mostly high SES kids to SH. Neither BASIS nor Latin has firm plans to open a second campus. The next few years will almost certainly be little different than the last few where MS goes. You'll see a slow, steady uptick in the number of white and high SES families at Hobson (breaking into the 20s, possibly low 30s) and that's about it.

Been on the Hill since the 90s, have ES age kids in a DCPS and can't share your optimism, not by a long shot.

Lots of SWS families IB for SH (as well as Ludlow Taylor). First rising 6th grade class this year. Not big numbers but a cohort.

There have always been neighborhood families at SH, but the school hasn't been more than 25% IB since the 70s. Moreover, the catchment area is roughly 2/3 white - last year the school was 11% white.

[Anonymous]

Stuart Hobson isn't a true neighborhood school, and won't be for many years. It's not a bad school, but not a good one either. No great prize for the IB family but if the place keeps you in the neighborhood, more power to you.

[Anonymous]

DCPS had a chance to try to fix the middle school problem on the Hill with the boundary review and decided not to do it. Here is a solution not accepted: all kids on the Hill feed to the same middle schools - at least then you have the potential of high performing kids from several schools all heading to the same place. Stuart becomes a 6th grade and Elliot Hine is 7th-8th. Jefferson is a STEM magnet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dozens of upper middle class families of all colors send their children to Stuart Hobson, and those children go on to myriad high schools and do very well in life. So yes, it's an option worth a closer look if you live on the Hill. But, the OOB availability will only get tougher as more neighborhood families (and those in feeder elementary schools - Watkins, LT, JO Wilson) choose the school. As an LT parent, I see more affluent kids in the upper grades, even transfers from other Hill schools, because parents want the option of Stuart Hobson. Of course they may end up elsewhere, but this is a good sign for SH in the coming 2-3 years.

Interesting. I know of a few families that live within 3 blocks of the school and chose to send dc across the city to another middle school rather than let dc walk 5 mins to SH.

Based on the recent numbers, I think the rising Hill MS families over the next 2 to 5 years are going to have much different choices than the current MS families. Latin is already really hard to get into and Basis is getting harder. Yes, some will move or go private but the next few years should be interesting.

BASIS isn’t truly that hard to get into. We’ve lotteried in off the WL three years in a row with not particularly good numbers. (We passed each time.)

[Anonymous]

That's right - BASIS has cleared its WL by mid September every year since 2014 (the first year it had a WL). Everybody who wants in at BASIS to avoid SH can probably still go in SY 2018-2019.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dozens of upper middle class families of all colors send their children to Stuart Hobson, and those children go on to myriad high schools and do very well in life. So yes, it's an option worth a closer look if you live on the Hill. But, the OOB availability will only get tougher as more neighborhood families (and those in feeder elementary schools - Watkins, LT, JO Wilson) choose the school. As an LT parent, I see more affluent kids in the upper grades, even transfers from other Hill schools, because parents want the option of Stuart Hobson. Of course they may end up elsewhere, but this is a good sign for SH in the coming 2-3 years.

Interesting. I know of a few families that live within 3 blocks of the school and chose to send dc across the city to another middle school rather than let dc walk 5 mins to SH.

Based on the recent numbers, I think the rising Hill MS families over the next 2 to 5 years are going to have much different choices than the current MS families. Latin is already really hard to get into and Basis is getting harder. Yes, some will move or go private but the next few years should be interesting.

I don't see much different choices in under a decade, not with the strongest Hill DCPS ES shut out of Hobson - Brent, Maury and SWS. It will be more like 10 years before either Ludlow or Watkins will be feeding mostly high SES kids to SH. Neither BASIS nor Latin has firm plans to open a second campus. The next few years will almost certainly be little different than the last few where MS goes. You'll see a slow, steady uptick in the number of white and high SES families at Hobson (breaking into the 20s, possibly low 30s) and that's about it.

Been on the Hill since the 90s, have ES age kids in a DCPS and can't share your optimism, not by a long shot.

this is the worst kind of biased attitudes towards schools -- you assume a school needs affluent white kids to succeed. Not everyone buys into your definition of success.

Do everyone a favor and go/stay in the charter/private/move camp. You won't be missed.

race has nothing to do with it but yes, the most successful schools both bahaviorally and academically have higher income families. Its likes this across the nation. Exceptions would be kill and drill schools like KIPP but you couldnt pay me to put my kid in boot camp. You have your head in the sand if you don't think this matters. A report was just released about the brain differences of neglected kids. You can't just make up for that in the class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That's right - BASIS has cleared its WL by mid September every year since 2014 (the first year it had a WL). Everybody who wants in at BASIS to avoid SH can probably still go in SY 2018-2019.

Stop letting "facts" get in the way of the narrative driven by long term hill families that aren't connected to the current school environment or demographics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dozens of upper middle class families of all colors send their children to Stuart Hobson, and those children go on to myriad high schools and do very well in life. So yes, it's an option worth a closer look if you live on the Hill. But, the OOB availability will only get tougher as more neighborhood families (and those in feeder elementary schools - Watkins, LT, JO Wilson) choose the school. As an LT parent, I see more affluent kids in the upper grades, even transfers from other Hill schools, because parents want the option of Stuart Hobson. Of course they may end up elsewhere, but this is a good sign for SH in the coming 2-3 years.

Interesting. I know of a few families that live within 3 blocks of the school and chose to send dc across the city to another middle school rather than let dc walk 5 mins to SH.

Based on the recent numbers, I think the rising Hill MS families over the next 2 to 5 years are going to have much different choices than the current MS families. Latin is already really hard to get into and Basis is getting harder. Yes, some will move or go private but the next few years should be interesting.

I don't see much different choices in under a decade, not with the strongest Hill DCPS ES shut out of Hobson - Brent, Maury and SWS. It will be more like 10 years before either Ludlow or Watkins will be feeding mostly high SES kids to SH. Neither BASIS nor Latin has firm plans to open a second campus. The next few years will almost certainly be little different than the last few where MS goes. You'll see a slow, steady uptick in the number of white and high SES families at Hobson (breaking into the 20s, possibly low 30s) and that's about it.

Been on the Hill since the 90s, have ES age kids in a DCPS and can't share your optimism, not by a long shot.

this is the worst kind of biased attitudes towards schools -- you assume a school needs affluent white kids to succeed. Not everyone buys into your definition of success.

Do everyone a favor and go/stay in the charter/private/move camp. You won't be missed.

You were so close to a coherent argument...then you kept writing. have you looked at the demographics of charters lately? They are a heck of a lot more diverse than SWS (DCPS), Brent (DCPS), Maury (DCPS), Logan (DCPS), etc. My point here is that you make yourself a fool by complaining about bias and then chomping hard on a false equivalence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That's right - BASIS has cleared its WL by mid September every year since 2014 (the first year it had a WL). Everybody who wants in at BASIS to avoid SH can probably still go in SY 2018-2019.

Stop letting "facts" get in the way of the narrative driven by long term hill families that aren't connected to the current school environment or demographics.

+1. As you can tell, most of the parents here don't have kids at S-H. If you really want to know more about the school, Stuart-Hobson is hosting an open house on Thursday, November 16 from 6-7:30 pm. You'll have a chance to see the school, meet staff, and meet parents.

[Anonymous]

I suspect 90% of the SH narrative is peddled by Brent families perpetually pissed about not getting a SH feed and hyping BASIS at every opportunity. GO JEFFERSON!