Robinson or Marshall for IB?
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Anonymous
+1000. As for the IB program, Marshall has a slightly higher rate of successful IB diploma candidates, but Robinson has a larger program and more IB diploma graduates. |
Anonymous
But isn't Robinson a much larger school? Seems like that would be expected. |
Anonymous
I'm curious about this as well. |
Anonymous
| another vote for Robinson. DD just graduated from here with an IB diploma. Loved the size of the school - large but doesn't feel so, student spirit and community support/parental involvement is great. |
Anonymous
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Too much of the Marshall district is near 66, 495, the Toll Road and utility lines and gets affected by projects like this:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/changing-trail-design-could-jeopardize-entire-i-66-widening-project/2017/09/03/76b5be86-8e5d-11e7-91d5-ab4e4bb76a3a_story.html?hpid=hp_local-news_i66project-552pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.a3af25a2cbf3 |
Anonymous
Absolutely zero of that project is affecting the school itself. Whether you prefer a bustling and busy environment or a calm suburban environment is a matter of personal opinion. One is not inherently "better" than the other. The aesthetics of the schools are also very different, with Robinson looking very 1970 and Marshall looking very current. |
Anonymous
It affects the school when the neighborhoods that feed into it back up to expanded highways and/or public access paths. Oh, and Robinson got a major renovation in the mid-1990s. It's always been a beautiful school. Marshall looks better than it did before the renovation, but the renovation is very generic. Looks just like Edison now. |
Anonymous
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Robinson is way too big and sports centered. In terms of traffic, it's right next to GMU, so it's not like it doesn't get any.
Marshall has been considered a top academic school in the area for several years, while Robinson never makes that list. |
Anonymous
What list would that be? Robinson is rated much higher than Marshall by the Washington Post. https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/local/high-school-challenge-2017/ |
Anonymous
Funny you mentioned that. Did you know that pre-renovation, Marshall and Edison had the exact same floor plan? It's not really surprising that they look similar now, but they actually look less alike than they did before. |
Anonymous
| why would anyone prefer IB over AP, i'd say neither, go to an AP school |
Anonymous
Really? It took a whole 2 pages to get to the AP vs. IB - the IB haters must not be on the ball this early in the school year. Serious response to the thread: Marshall has a stronger IB program. A higher percent of the school participates in the program and seeks the Diploma, and a higher percent of the ones seeking Diploma receive it. Parents are generally very happy with the school, program, and leadership. I highly recommend it. |
Anonymous
| I'd drive around Fairfax Station and then take a look at Pimmit Hills. That ought to convince you that you want Robinson. |
Anonymous
| I don't understand this dilemma. They are both good IB schools. Depends on where you're commuting and what house you want as to what school you'd pick. |
Anonymous
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New poster here. OP, if you're still reading:
Unless a poster can speak from real knowledge about both programs -- and only some parent who had had kids in each of those schools could truly do so -- I don't see how you'll get much useful comparison in a forum like this. You'll get what you've gotten so far (mostly) -- either "my kid's school is better" or "that other school (which my kid doesn't attend) is in a terrible location/has bad rankings" etc. It's not going to help you assess the details of how each school actually runs this curriculum. My DC goes to Marshall and wanted to be pupil placed there to do IB (opted out of the assigned HS which is not an IB school). I could talk about our experiences there, which have been excellent so far, but I can't tell you a thing about Robinson's IB program, or how it's regarded, or how well students or parents like it. Nor could a parent of a Robinson IB student tell you about Marshall. You're going to get posts just saying "Marshall is better" or "Robinson is better" with those "better" ratings based on knowledge of only one of the two schools. Are you at very early stages, house-hunting for a kid who is nowhere near HS age right now? Or do you figure on moving soon because you have a kid who is getting close to HS and you want IB? It's hard to advise because as PP notes, if this involves a move, you need to look at work commutes, school commutes, neighborhoods, housing in those areas, etc., not just at IB at each school. I hope you're also aware that you can do an academic placement into the nearest IB school if you are zoned for an FCPS HS that does not offer IB--you are required to provide transportation if you pupil-place (no bus for your kid) and you have to renew the placement each year, which some on DCUM will say is a risk "because schools are full and closed to transfers" -- but never have I heard of anyone who pupil-placed losing a slot once they're in a new HS, for either IB or AP. So pupil placement is an option, as well as moving to an IB school's catchment area. Anyway, it may be more useful for you to visit both schools (just, please, not here in the first weeks of the year!). I know Marshall has two IB information nights, fall and spring, aimed at middle school students and their parents; Robinson may have something similar; I strongly recommend that you attend those nights at both schools, to get a feel for the program, as well as how it's presented at each school. Coordinators will probably stay to talk to you afterward. Maybe set up a meeting with coordinators. Look for things like whether the coordinators and teachers can explain the program clearly and whether they are frank about the downsides of IB as well as its positives. Ask for specific examples of how an IB class at each school differs from an honors, a general ed and an AP class in the same subject -- don't be afraid to ask that question; they should be able to answer it with examples. Ask about how students choose their advisers for their Extended Essay; find out how the school schedules its Theory of Knowledge seminars (which are required for the IB diploma). Consider visiting a PTA meeting -- contact the PTA in advance and ask if parents can talk to you about IB. I would like to clarify two things posted by others above that are specific to Marshall but are about the school, nothing to do with its IB program. First, work on 66 or the Beltway etc. really does not affect Marshall. The link that one poster gave was for a dispute about a bike trail along 66 outside the Beltway and has zero impact on Marshall or commuting to Marshall. I've worked in and driven around the Marshall area for years and never found any impact from work on I-66. Unless you pick up your kid frequently at, say, evening rush, and you're taking the Beltway or always going directly past Tysons Corner Mall -- there isn't much Beltway impact either. I would not let some fear of road works affect this choice at all. Second, someone mentioned Pimmit Hills, a neighborhood that is home to many Marshall students. It's an old area with varying incomes and varying quality of housing. That's all. It's one part of Marshall's catchment area. Marshall's boundaries go all the way over to Vienna and somewhat toward Falls Church, so you have a lot of choice of areas in which to live. Oh, and OP -- good for you for your interest in IB. Don't let the inevitable DCUM IB haters dissuade you. There is a very vocal contingent of posters on DCUM who jump into any IB discussion only to bash it; they seem to know nothing about its academics. Focus on what you want from your house, commute and school overall as well as IB and you probably cannot go wrong with either Marshall or Robinson. |