This is how I'm proving that DCUM is a bad place to ask questions about classical music:

[Anonymous]

1. YES
2. Played cello 3-6th, then trumpet 7-12
3. Yes
4. Sophomore
5. No, tried several times but never made it.
6. N/A

I love jazz, tolerate classical, and am totally obsessed with Americana/country/bluegrass/blues.

What do I win?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Okayyyyy...

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not sure I agree with the premise that you have to have played an instrument to enjoy classical music or know a lot about it. It's like saying you can't enjoy a good book unless you are a writer yourself.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure I agree with the premise that you have to have played an instrument to enjoy classical music or know a lot about it. It's like saying you can't enjoy a good book unless you are a writer yourself.

This.

+1. I'm yes to all but I don't consider myself knowledgeable about classical music. I just like what I like for all genres. And I love Nirvana.

[Anonymous]

I don't really understand why op is so hostile. Op, you are angry about someone asking about classical music on dcum? And you're hell bent on proving nobody knows anything about it? And you're really riled up about it? Am I understanding this correctly?

[Anonymous]

1. Did you ever play an orchestral instrument? Yes

2. If yes to 1, what age did you start and what age did you quit? Age 10 to age 18

3. If there was an orchestra at your high school, were you in it? Yes

4. If yes to 3, what year in high school were you when made it into the top orchestra if ever? Sophomore (grade 10)

5. Did you ever participate in any all-state orchestras? Yes

6. If so, what years? 1978, 1979, and 1980

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a classical music lover, I heartily disagree with you that classical music can only be appreciated if one played an orchestral instrument. Your focus is much too narrow and school-based. You should know that general education schools are not the best vehicles to teach music anyway.

None of my parents played anything, yet they listen only to classical and are knowledgeable about it.
I only played violin for two years, but played piano for ten, took solfege and singing classes, and am quite knowledgeable about the history of classical music...
...which I am passing on to my daughter, who demanded a violin at 3, and will probably soon play in a junior orchestra.

Completely agree. I'd go so far as to aa op is being a music elitist. Why isn't op asking about music appreciation courses, what winds are in playlists or what their favorite radio stations are or when they went to their last performance?

Based on ops bad rradkning people are only true lovers of anything if they have fine it in their lives - sports, visual arts, architecture, gardens, cooking - anything.

Op, your reasoning is so flawed it is laughable.

[Anonymous]

That's a lot of bizarro irrationality packed into one post, OP. Check in with your pdoc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a classical music lover, I heartily disagree with you that classical music can only be appreciated if one played an orchestral instrument. Your focus is much too narrow and school-based. You should know that general education schools are not the best vehicles to teach music anyway.

None of my parents played anything, yet they listen only to classical and are knowledgeable about it.
I only played violin for two years, but played piano for ten, took solfege and singing classes, and am quite knowledgeable about the history of classical music...
...which I am passing on to my daughter, who demanded a violin at 3, and will probably soon play in a junior orchestra.

Completely agree. I'd go so far as to aa op is being a music elitist. Why isn't op asking about music appreciation courses, what winds are in playlists or what their favorite radio stations are or when they went to their last performance?

Based on ops bad rradkning people are only true lovers of anything if they have fine it in their lives - sports, visual arts, architecture, gardens, cooking - anything.

Op, your reasoning is so flawed it is laughable.

I think it's sad. Coming on to a parenting to boast and feel superior about a hobby that other may or may not choose to follow, how ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Dork.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a classical music lover, I heartily disagree with you that classical music can only be appreciated if one played an orchestral instrument. Your focus is much too narrow and school-based. You should know that general education schools are not the best vehicles to teach music anyway.

None of my parents played anything, yet they listen only to classical and are knowledgeable about it.
I only played violin for two years, but played piano for ten, took solfege and singing classes, and am quite knowledgeable about the history of classical music...
...which I am passing on to my daughter, who demanded a violin at 3, and will probably soon play in a junior orchestra.

Completely agree. I'd go so far as to aa op is being a music elitist. Why isn't op asking about music appreciation courses, what winds are in playlists or what their favorite radio stations are or when they went to their last performance?

Based on ops bad rradkning people are only true lovers of anything if they have fine it in their lives - sports, visual arts, architecture, gardens, cooking - anything.

Op, your reasoning is so flawed it is laughable.

LOL! Yeah OP get over to the food forum and tell us we can't taste tasty food that we don't know how to cook.

[Anonymous]

You must have a lot of time on your hands to post something like this.

I played the violin since I was 8. Played in two orchestras from 4-12th grade, then played in two in college. Loved it! Wish I had the opportunity to play as an adult. Also, I don't know much at all about classical music.

[Anonymous]

My husband posts to DCUM and performed with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra for seven years. What's on your professional resume, OP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So in another section, someone asked a question about classical music. Well, I'm here to prove that DCUM is one of the worst places to ask about classical music, even in the entertainment section. People on DCUM are way too serious to appreciate an artistic concept like music. So I'm going to ask a series of questions, and I'm hoping that all the "I don't knows" and "no's" will prove that DCUM is a terrible place to discuss classical.

1. Did you ever play an orchestral instrument?
YES

2. If yes to 1, what age did you start and what age did you quit? 8 THROUGH COLLEGE

3. If there was an orchestra at your high school, were you in it? YES

4. If yes to 3, what year in high school were you when made it into the top orchestra if ever? SOPHOMORE

5. Did you ever participate in any all-state orchestras? YES

6. If so, what years? JUNIOR AND SENIOR

I can't wait for people to see these responses and know that they should post classical music questions on DCUM again.

AND I CAN'T WAIT TO TELL YOU THAT MY BEST FRIEND FROM COLLEGE IS JOSHUA BELL

Very nice, I'm sure, but in the classical music world, he's not that hot. There is a difference between the most effective marketers of themselves (your friend Joshua) and the ones who are truly, undeniably, the most gifted musicians of their generation - those usually don't have the selling temperament, but connaisseurs recognize them just the same.

OK, hot shot. You, yourself are either better trained/more talented than Joshua Bell, or you are not. If you aren't, then shut up and get over yourself.

I am voicing the opinions of a lot of very talented musicians, but that is not why that makes it true. Like in many other activities, expert reviewers don't need to excel at the activity itself. They need to be expert observers of the activity. So here, they need to to know the score inside out down to every last note with its particular inflection, they need to have listened to every major musician playing that same piece, they need to have technical knowledge of bowings, fingerings, anatomical details of movement during that piece, and also historical knowledge of the composer's intentions, the political and artistic context if applicable, the original soloist chosen to play the piece and why, as well as the arranger's intentions and how the composition of the current orchestra may differ from the original one.

Don't speak of what you don't know, PP.

LOL, this is the classical music equivalent of "I liked their early stuff but then they sold out". Don't worry, PP, we are super impressed with you so you can stop lecturing now!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My husband posts to DCUM and performed with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra for seven years. What's on your professional resume, OP?

But I heard he didn't make all state in his home state of California, until sophomore year. So, he's clearly not all that. I hope he doesn't post any opinions about classical music!