Local Mom Speaks Truth about White Supremacy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was addressing her point of "we've been too polite in tollerating your dissenting voices (people opposed to the name change) so far, and we need to get loud (and presumably impolite) now".

That seemed to be her assertion. That it was now time to get nasty. The time for civil discourse and polite disagreement was over, and now it was time to force their will on those they oppose.

Well, I'm not a southerner. I'm from Idaho originally, but grew up mostly in Canada, Alaska and now live here. I don't really care about the south one way or another.

But I dislike liberals. And this woman typifies them. There is no politeness. Just them wanting their way and forcing those they oppose to submit to them.

Um way to miss her point. Her argument is pretty much yours...that there is no need for "civil discourse" when discussing the merits of white supremacy in 2017. It's just wrong. And yeah, you're right, as a country we've decided to force the will of the people who wish to integrate and break down institutionalized racism. If you don't like it, move back to Canada.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would never, ever accuse white liberals of being "too polite", about anything. Ever.

They don't even understand the meaning of the word, except in the context of it being something they demand of other people. Not something they themselves exhibit.

Liberals are, as a group (with a few occasional exceptions) the rudest, most impolite people I've ever known.

Liberal here. I'll give you this. One of the great ironies is that Democrats on Capitol Hill by and large tend to be brusque and rude, whereas Republicans tend to be friendly and polite. I chalk this up to the urban/rural divide.

That said and personal style notwithstanding, the policies of liberals tend to be inclusive and compassionate, whereas the policies of Republicans tend to be hateful and selfish. So, frankly, I still prefer liberals. But I agree that I wish their personal styles would align better with their policy goals.

You clearly haven't been on Capitol Hill in a while.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would never, ever accuse white liberals of being "too polite", about anything. Ever.

They don't even understand the meaning of the word, except in the context of it being something they demand of other people. Not something they themselves exhibit.

Liberals are, as a group (with a few occasional exceptions) the rudest, most impolite people I've ever known.

Liberal here. I'll give you this. One of the great ironies is that Democrats on Capitol Hill by and large tend to be brusque and rude, whereas Republicans tend to be friendly and polite. I chalk this up to the urban/rural divide.

That said and personal style notwithstanding, the policies of liberals tend to be inclusive and compassionate, whereas the policies of Republicans tend to be hateful and selfish. So, frankly, I still prefer liberals. But I agree that I wish their personal styles would align better with their policy goals.

You clearly haven't been on Capitol Hill in a while.

Fair enough. My observation is limited to the 1995-2010 era.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was at that meeting and there were two facilitators from FCPS who laid out a series of ground rules about being polite to one another. I think the woman in this video was reacting to that, and basically saying it's more important for white people to stand up for the civil rights of others, even when it means raising your voice.

I also heard an opponent of the name change on the Kojo Nnamdi show last week. She made a lot of blatant misrepresentations about the school community and said FCPS was "broke" and couldn't afford the costs of changing the name. And then when Kojo called her on it, and asked if she'd go along with the change if it was paid for through private contributions, she hesitated and then said "no." Because history, or something. Never mind that the history in question was upholding slavery and then honoring a Confederate right around the time Fairfax County had to start coming to terms with Brown vs. Board of Education.

I heard that show. She showed her true (white robed) colors when she admitted it wasnt about the money, after arguing precisely that for 30+ minutes.

[Anonymous]

As a foreigner reading multiple news sources, I have noticed equal ferocity on the part of the American left and American right.

I therefore dispute OP's idea that liberals are often impolite when others are not.

[Anonymous]

Do people really dress like that for public events? Who would ever take her seriously?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at that meeting and there were two facilitators from FCPS who laid out a series of ground rules about being polite to one another. I think the woman in this video was reacting to that, and basically saying it's more important for white people to stand up for the civil rights of others, even when it means raising your voice.

I also heard an opponent of the name change on the Kojo Nnamdi show last week. She made a lot of blatant misrepresentations about the school community and said FCPS was "broke" and couldn't afford the costs of changing the name. And then when Kojo called her on it, and asked if she'd go along with the change if it was paid for through private contributions, she hesitated and then said "no." Because history, or something. Never mind that the history in question was upholding slavery and then honoring a Confederate right around the time Fairfax County had to start coming to terms with Brown vs. Board of Education.

I heard that show. She showed her true (white robed) colors when she admitted it wasnt about the money, after arguing precisely that for 30+ minutes.

The same woman was on another radio show this week and embarrassed herself again with a bunch of hooey about how JEB Stuart was really against slavery.

I think she must be a secret agent for the people who want to change the name. No one could be that clueless on purpose.

[Anonymous]

The history behind Stuart HS is ugly. It got the name after Brown v. Board as FCPS's protest against integration. The name was meant to send a clear signal that if FCPS was going to be forcibly integrated, non-white children were not welcome. It is well past time for FCPS to put that chapter behind us.

But, here's what puzzles me. And maybe someone has an answer. I clearly get the unhappiness about Stuart. But why are people not equally unhappy about Lee and Woodson?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would never, ever accuse white liberals of being "too polite", about anything. Ever.

They don't even understand the meaning of the word, except in the context of it being something they demand of other people. Not something they themselves exhibit.

Liberals are, as a group (with a few occasional exceptions) the rudest, most impolite people I've ever known.

Liberal here. I'll give you this. One of the great ironies is that Democrats on Capitol Hill by and large tend to be brusque and rude, whereas Republicans tend to be friendly and polite. I chalk this up to the urban/rural divide.

That said and personal style notwithstanding, the policies of liberals tend to be inclusive and compassionate, whereas the policies of Republicans tend to be hateful and selfish. So, frankly, I still prefer liberals. But I agree that I wish their personal styles would align better with their policy goals.

That took real courage for you to admit that, and you have my respect for that.

I disagree with your second assertion, but that's just a fundamental misunderstanding of conservatism, not your fault. We do a lousy job of explaining our message, and we let the opposition define us, instead of us doing it. That's on us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The history behind Stuart HS is ugly. It got the name after Brown v. Board as FCPS's protest against integration. The name was meant to send a clear signal that if FCPS was going to be forcibly integrated, non-white children were not welcome. It is well past time for FCPS to put that chapter behind us.

But, here's what puzzles me. And maybe someone has an answer. I clearly get the unhappiness about Stuart. But why are people not equally unhappy about Lee and Woodson?

Although the opponents of a name change at Stuart like to claim it's all being driven by a cabal of NAACP officials, the bulk of the support for the Stuart name change comes from Stuart students, parents, alumni, and community members. Not sure anything similar is happening at Lee or Woodson (and Woodson is known as much for expanding FCPS as for his hostility to integration).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The history behind Stuart HS is ugly. It got the name after Brown v. Board as FCPS's protest against integration. The name was meant to send a clear signal that if FCPS was going to be forcibly integrated, non-white children were not welcome. It is well past time for FCPS to put that chapter behind us.

But, here's what puzzles me. And maybe someone has an answer. I clearly get the unhappiness about Stuart. But why are people not equally unhappy about Lee and Woodson?

Although the opponents of a name change at Stuart like to claim it's all being driven by a cabal of NAACP officials, the bulk of the support for the Stuart name change comes from Stuart students, parents, alumni, and community members. Not sure anything similar is happening at Lee or Woodson (and Woodson is known as much for expanding FCPS as for his hostility to integration).

I really cannot imagine moving to VA and moving in-boundary for a school that is still named after a Confederate general. In 2017!

[Anonymous]

This is Virginia. Students in elementary school have to study a famous segregation is as part of the VA studies

[Anonymous]

I'm not from here, but I've learned how important the Lee family was to the area. I don't think naming a high school after Lee, in this area, is the same as naming a high school after Stuart.