is MS13 a big issue in your DC school

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Anonymous wrote:Google says:

The gang typically wears the colors blue and white, which is the color of the El Salvadoran flag. MS-13 may carry a bandana, which most of the time are blue but sometimes they may even be black or white. They wear them in any place on their body, so they could be on their waist, around their head, or hanging out of their pocket. They also wear clothing like sports jerseys that have the numbers 13, 23, or 3. Their favorite sport jerseys because they resemble the gang’s trademarks are Allen Iverson (Blue 3) and Kurt Warner (Blue 13).

You mean that, if you thought some local kid just liked Lionel Messi and the Argentine soccer team, they may be MS-13 members?

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Anonymous wrote:MY DD said she doesn't know about it. She said there might be but she doesn't noticed them.. from her knowledge there isn't a lot of fights at the school. So Is MS13 a big issue in a lot of school or is the media just making it seem like a big issue? she attends a FCPS school.

How would she notice them? It's not like they're walking around in MS-13 t-shirts. I teach in FCPS and we have a gang presence at our school. For the most part, they keep to themselves and lay low. They may be doing things inside school like dealing drugs, but they are not instigating fights in the hallways. Much of the recruitment is done online or outside of school. Plus, many of these kids are in ESOL and are often separated from the mainstream students at the school for most of their classes.

Does your school work with local law enforcement to shut down illegal activity?

Yes. We have a SRO (School Resource Officer) in our school.

I'm guessing this is either Glasgow or Stuart.

Actually, it's not. It's one of the highly rated FCPS high schools that is recommended on this site quite often. I believe every FCPS high school has an SRO.

Interesting.

[Anonymous]

Principals don't want to work with the police because arrests are bad for a school's reputation. That's why they never let in drug dogs, for example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Google says:

The gang typically wears the colors blue and white, which is the color of the El Salvadoran flag. MS-13 may carry a bandana, which most of the time are blue but sometimes they may even be black or white. They wear them in any place on their body, so they could be on their waist, around their head, or hanging out of their pocket. They also wear clothing like sports jerseys that have the numbers 13, 23, or 3. Their favorite sport jerseys because they resemble the gang’s trademarks are Allen Iverson (Blue 3) and Kurt Warner (Blue 13).

This may be true outside of schools, but the kids are a lot more slick than that these days. They know bandanas are not allowed. They know wearing the number 13 will get them on the radar. They are really more subtle than this makes them out to be - we used to see a lot more obvious signs, but now a lot is done via social media and pictures online.

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Anonymous wrote:Principals don't want to work with the police because arrests are bad for a school's reputation. That's why they never let in drug dogs, for example.

Is there pressure on principals to reduce suspensions/expulsions? The behavior at our school is appalling, and it seems that teachers do not address it themselves, nor do they call for an administrator. Behavior gets progressively worse and spreads as people see they are not getting in trouble (and most would not care if they were suspended)

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Is there pressure on principals to reduce suspensions/expulsions? The behavior at our school is appalling, and it seems that teachers do not address it themselves, nor do they call for an administrator. Behavior gets progressively worse and spreads as people see they are not getting in trouble (and most would not care if they were suspended)

Definitely, especially if the students involved are of color.

[Anonymous]

So, real MS-13 is no joke. Few things as scary as damaged kids with nothing to lose.

That said, this is so much overblown hype/fear. I'll put this on par with the (non-existent) "super predators" of the 90s. There's a scintilla of truth behind things, but it's mostly overactive imaginations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, real MS-13 is no joke. Few things as scary as damaged kids with nothing to lose.

That said, this is so much overblown hype/fear. I'll put this on par with the (non-existent) "super predators" of the 90s. There's a scintilla of truth behind things, but it's mostly overactive imaginations.

If you are in one of the high ESOL schools in the county, it is absolutely not hype.

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Anonymous wrote:So, real MS-13 is no joke. Few things as scary as damaged kids with nothing to lose.

That said, this is so much overblown hype/fear. I'll put this on par with the (non-existent) "super predators" of the 90s. There's a scintilla of truth behind things, but it's mostly overactive imaginations.

If you are in one of the high ESOL schools in the county, it is absolutely not hype.

+1. Get out of Langley or McLean. Come down and visit the unfashionable parts of the county sometime.

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Anonymous wrote:So, real MS-13 is no joke. Few things as scary as damaged kids with nothing to lose.

That said, this is so much overblown hype/fear. I'll put this on par with the (non-existent) "super predators" of the 90s. There's a scintilla of truth behind things, but it's mostly overactive imaginations.

If you are in one of the high ESOL schools in the county, it is absolutely not hype.

+1. Get out of Langley or McLean. Come down and visit the unfashionable parts of the county sometime.

-1 get out of your imagination. A bunch of bullies aren't MS-13. They're the same bullies you grew up with, but maybe they look different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nope. But there are only about 6 Hispanic kids per class. TJ.

I thought TJ was a hotbed of gang activity.

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Anonymous wrote:MY DD said she doesn't know about it. She said there might be but she doesn't noticed them.. from her knowledge there isn't a lot of fights at the school. So Is MS13 a big issue in a lot of school or is the media just making it seem like a big issue? she attends a FCPS school.

How would she notice them? It's not like they're walking around in MS-13 t-shirts. I teach in FCPS and we have a gang presence at our school. For the most part, they keep to themselves and lay low. They may be doing things inside school like dealing drugs, but they are not instigating fights in the hallways. Much of the recruitment is done online or outside of school. Plus, many of these kids are in ESOL and are often separated from the mainstream students at the school for most of their classes.

Does your school work with local law enforcement to shut down illegal activity?

Yes. We have a SRO (School Resource Officer) in our school.

I'm guessing this is either Glasgow or Stuart.

Actually, it's not. It's one of the highly rated FCPS high schools that is recommended on this site quite often. I believe every FCPS high school has an SRO.

Interesting.

Woodson? Please tell, as our DCs are on track to attend.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, real MS-13 is no joke. Few things as scary as damaged kids with nothing to lose.

That said, this is so much overblown hype/fear. I'll put this on par with the (non-existent) "super predators" of the 90s. There's a scintilla of truth behind things, but it's mostly overactive imaginations.

If you are in one of the high ESOL schools in the county, it is absolutely not hype.

+1. Get out of Langley or McLean. Come down and visit the unfashionable parts of the county sometime.

-1 get out of your imagination. A bunch of bullies aren't MS-13. They're the same bullies you grew up with, but maybe they look different.

How many bodies do they have to dig up at Lake Accotink before it's a serious problem?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, real MS-13 is no joke. Few things as scary as damaged kids with nothing to lose.

That said, this is so much overblown hype/fear. I'll put this on par with the (non-existent) "super predators" of the 90s. There's a scintilla of truth behind things, but it's mostly overactive imaginations.

If you are in one of the high ESOL schools in the county, it is absolutely not hype.

+1. Get out of Langley or McLean. Come down and visit the unfashionable parts of the county sometime.

-1 get out of your imagination. A bunch of bullies aren't MS-13. They're the same bullies you grew up with, but maybe they look different.

How many bodies do they have to dig up at Lake Accotink before it's a serious problem?

This.

[Anonymous]

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Is there pressure on principals to reduce suspensions/expulsions? The behavior at our school is appalling, and it seems that teachers do not address it themselves, nor do they call for an administrator. Behavior gets progressively worse and spreads as people see they are not getting in trouble (and most would not care if they were suspended)

Definitely, especially if the students involved are of color.

So what can/should they do about students causing trouble? Why are they pressured not to suspend students of color?