Hey pp, you are just repeating what op say--- rare vut sometimes happens, slim. But you finish it in a way that sounds disagreeable. Stingy psyche. |
If kids got into Ivies with those stats, people might not know WHAT your hook is, but they'll certainly know one exists. |
| If you're unhooked you have to be really interesting. The issue is parents of normal, above average kids delude themselves into believing their kids are super interesting. Great grades, test scores, sports captain, student government, tutoring youth, foreign volunteering isn't HYPS interesting. There are kids like that in literally every high school. |
Not just repeating what OP said. My experience in observing DC and DC's unhooked (but highly accomplished) friends was that their chances were not "slim to none". OP claimed that she knew the "truth" and that I needed to "dig deeper" and not just believe what my school said. My actual experience told me differently. These are real people who did not have hooks yet still got in because they were great kids and had worked hard to get to where they were. It does happen, and it is not as rare as some people want to believe. |
As parents, we all think our children are spectacular, but we really don't know how strong the rest of the class is. What really torpedoes a student's elite college admissions chances are their teachers who give them ho-hum recommendations. When 10-15% of the class applies to any single Ivy and the school does not rank, the recs determine the pecking order. If your student's teachers aren't writing how much they love your student on report cards, they're just not "special" enough for the tippy top colleges. While they will all try to make the strongest possible case for your DC, they teach a lot of typical smart well polished upper middle class teens. But "UVA, Michigan, Wash U, U Chicago" are pretty good for kids born on third base who didn't have to hit a triple themselves. |
Not OP, but looking at it logically: 2000 kids, 50/50 female/male. So 1000 seats for males. 10% for international. That leaves 900 seats. Another 15% for first gen. That leaves 750 seats. 20% for athletes - that leaves 550 seats. Another 15% for legacy and development - now we are down to 400 seats. Plus geographical diversity, URM, faculty, etc. So there is actually very few seats for the unhooked when you look at the number of high school kids applying all over the country. |