Target schools for high SAT and B+ GPA?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My white male kid was similar (slightly higher test score) and got into F&M, Dickinson, Case Western, Lehigh, Hamilton. All gave about $20K/year in aid/grants.

If our experience can help inform anyone, it's that a kid can do fine with these stats but won't necessarily get super generous FA unless you go a tier or two down.

$20k in merit aid isn't super generous? That actually seems pretty high to me.

Still $50K/year at most of these schools, sadly. Not affordable for all families.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not the OP, but what does it signal to schools when a student has a very high SAT score and more regular grades and extracurricular activities (no offense OP!)?

It signals a great intellect, who is not a teacher-pleaser, if appropriately reflected in the essay and recommendations.

Or a kid who tests well, or a kid who prepped a ton for the SAT, or a kid who doesn't work to his/her potential in school - in short it depends.

Not OP or any of the PPs. My kid has similar scores and grades. The reason for my kid's disconnect is ADHD and disgraphia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not the OP, but what does it signal to schools when a student has a very high SAT score and more regular grades and extracurricular activities (no offense OP!)?

It signals a great intellect, who is not a teacher-pleaser, if appropriately reflected in the essay and recommendations.

LOL. No, a smart but lazy kid.

[Anonymous]

What is a B+ average? A 3.25 GPA?

Also, most schools today have inflated "sticker prices," so they can offer "scholarships," which are basically just correcting the tuition to something more realistic. A $20K/year scholarship at a $50K/year school is hardly a bargain, unless it's a dream school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not the OP, but what does it signal to schools when a student has a very high SAT score and more regular grades and extracurricular activities (no offense OP!)?

It signals a great intellect, who is not a teacher-pleaser, if appropriately reflected in the essay and recommendations.

Or a kid who tests well, or a kid who prepped a ton for the SAT, or a kid who doesn't work to his/her potential in school - in short it depends.

You can't prep your way to an extremel high SAT score. That's just not possible - you do actually have to be really really smart to get that.
It shows great potential.

Most people I know who had very high SAT scores are now doctors or PhD's with successful careers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not the OP, but what does it signal to schools when a student has a very high SAT score and more regular grades and extracurricular activities (no offense OP!)?

It signals a great intellect, who is not a teacher-pleaser, if appropriately reflected in the essay and recommendations.

LOL. No, a smart but lazy kid.

Or an immature kid who has a great future if he gets it together.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not the OP, but what does it signal to schools when a student has a very high SAT score and more regular grades and extracurricular activities (no offense OP!)?

It signals a great intellect, who is not a teacher-pleaser, if appropriately reflected in the essay and recommendations.

Or a kid who tests well, or a kid who prepped a ton for the SAT, or a kid who doesn't work to his/her potential in school - in short it depends.

You can't prep your way to an extremel high SAT score. That's just not possible - you do actually have to be really really smart to get that.
It shows great potential.

Most people I know who had very high SAT scores are now doctors or PhD's with successful careers.

They probably had high GPA to go with that score.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not the OP, but what does it signal to schools when a student has a very high SAT score and more regular grades and extracurricular activities (no offense OP!)?

It signals a great intellect, who is not a teacher-pleaser, if appropriately reflected in the essay and recommendations.

Or a kid who tests well, or a kid who prepped a ton for the SAT, or a kid who doesn't work to his/her potential in school - in short it depends.

You can't prep your way to an extremel high SAT score. That's just not possible - you do actually have to be really really smart to get that.
It shows great potential.

Most people I know who had very high SAT scores are now doctors or PhD's with successful careers.

You can increase your score with test prep. The "you can't increase your SAT/GRE just by prepping" is propaganda from the College Board who want you to believe that their exams are crystal balls that can judge someone's soul. Obviously, you're not going to increase your score by 500 points, but smaller gains are possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not the OP, but what does it signal to schools when a student has a very high SAT score and more regular grades and extracurricular activities (no offense OP!)?

It signals a great intellect, who is not a teacher-pleaser, if appropriately reflected in the essay and recommendations.

Or a kid who tests well, or a kid who prepped a ton for the SAT, or a kid who doesn't work to his/her potential in school - in short it depends.

You can't prep your way to an extremel high SAT score. That's just not possible - you do actually have to be really really smart to get that.
It shows great potential.

Most people I know who had very high SAT scores are now doctors or PhD's with successful careers.

You can increase your score with test prep. The "you can't increase your SAT/GRE just by prepping" is propaganda from the College Board who want you to believe that their exams are crystal balls that can judge someone's soul. Obviously, you're not going to increase your score by 500 points, but smaller gains are possible.

Most studies of this have shown that scores can be improved by around a 100 points if the kid really buckles down. Nothing to sneeze at, but it certainly won't turn kids into super high scorers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What schools would you consider targets for a white male with a 1460 new SAT score, B+ gpa, and few extracurriculars?

Would a student with a profile like this have any chance at all at a top 20 college, or is this just dreaming?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not the OP, but what does it signal to schools when a student has a very high SAT score and more regular grades and extracurricular activities (no offense OP!)?

It signals a great intellect, who is not a teacher-pleaser, if appropriately reflected in the essay and recommendations.

LOL. No, a smart but lazy kid.

Or an immature kid who has a great future if he gets it together.

Exactly!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not the OP, but what does it signal to schools when a student has a very high SAT score and more regular grades and extracurricular activities (no offense OP!)?

It signals a great intellect, who is not a teacher-pleaser, if appropriately reflected in the essay and recommendations.

LOL. No, a smart but lazy kid.

Or an immature kid who has a great future if he gets it together.

Exactly!

But that's a big "IF".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What schools would you consider targets for a white male with a 1460 new SAT score, B+ gpa, and few extracurriculars?

Would a student with a profile like this have any chance at all at a top 20 college, or is this just dreaming?

Dreaming, unless the B+ is from a super competitive private school and is in rigorous classes. There are just way too many applicants with higher scores, better grades and better ECs to pick from.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What schools would you consider targets for a white male with a 1460 new SAT score, B+ gpa, and few extracurriculars?

Would a student with a profile like this have any chance at all at a top 20 college, or is this just dreaming?

Dreaming, unless the B+ is from a super competitive private school and is in rigorous classes. There are just way too many applicants with higher scores, better grades and better ECs to pick from.

Dreaming unless URM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What schools would you consider targets for a white male with a 1460 new SAT score, B+ gpa, and few extracurriculars?

Would a student with a profile like this have any chance at all at a top 20 college, or is this just dreaming?

Dreaming, unless the B+ is from a super competitive private school and is in rigorous classes. There are just way too many applicants with higher scores, better grades and better ECs to pick from.

Dreaming unless URM.

White male is not a URM, even at a liberal arts school.