hard to get into Duke Ellington?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ellington is horribly under utilized. They should be made to take students until they're at capacity. DC parents paid for it DC students should be able to use it.


I think the new capacity is 700 -- and they are planning to grow the school to fill it next fall. It's now at 575 kids, which was the absolute max that the swing space could handle.

I don't think anyone was 100% confident it would be finished on time this fall.
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Anonymous wrote:Very. There's an audition, exam, and family interview.


So why, with the latest $200 million subsidy from D.C. Taxpayers, does Ellington take kids from Maryland while it turns away kids from Washington?!


Go to an open house and ask.


Why don't you tell us taxpayers. We'd love to know why we're subsidizing MoCo and PG kids when DC kids are being rejected. How is educating Maryland students part of Ellington's mission?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Very. There's an audition, exam, and family interview.


So why, with the latest $200 million subsidy from D.C. Taxpayers, does Ellington take kids from Maryland while it turns away kids from Washington?!


There are families that lie about residency

There are families that pay tuition


Both are a problem when DC kids are not admitted


True, and I give the tuition payers points for integrity when others are cheating to get their kids in. But the tuition is heavily subsidized and when billed, is not always collected.
Anonymous
How are the academic classes at Ellington?
Do they offer lots of APs? I don't want my kid to depend on having a successful dance career as that is low odds. This is what gives me pause when my kid shows interest in Duke Ellington.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How are the academic classes at Ellington?
Do they offer lots of APs? I don't want my kid to depend on having a successful dance career as that is low odds. This is what gives me pause when my kid shows interest in Duke Ellington.


All of their classes are listed on the website by subject http://www.ellingtonschool.org/academics/

They have AP classes - not as many as SWW or Wilson or Banneker. I know they have AP Bio, AP Chem, AP Stats, AP Eng Language, AP Eng Lit, AP US Gov, AP Calculus, AP World History, AP French, AP US History and AP Studio Art.

If a student can make the schedule work, they can also do the DCPS dual enrollment program and take classes at a local university.

Go to an open house PP - and see what you think.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Very. There's an audition, exam, and family interview.


So why, with the latest $200 million subsidy from D.C. Taxpayers, does Ellington take kids from Maryland while it turns away kids from Washington?!


Go to an open house and ask.


Why don't you tell us taxpayers. We'd love to know why we're subsidizing MoCo and PG kids when DC kids are being rejected. How is educating Maryland students part of Ellington's mission?


If no bass players from DC apply, and a talented bass player from Silver Spring wants to pay tuition and attend, why not?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Very. There's an audition, exam, and family interview.


So why, with the latest $200 million subsidy from D.C. Taxpayers, does Ellington take kids from Maryland while it turns away kids from Washington?!


Go to an open house and ask.


Why don't you tell us taxpayers. We'd love to know why we're subsidizing MoCo and PG kids when DC kids are being rejected. How is educating Maryland students part of Ellington's mission?


If no bass players from DC apply, and a talented bass player from Silver Spring wants to pay tuition and attend, why not?


So you're telling us that zero D.C. kids are turned away in favor of MD kids?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Very. There's an audition, exam, and family interview.


So why, with the latest $200 million subsidy from D.C. Taxpayers, does Ellington take kids from Maryland while it turns away kids from Washington?!


Go to an open house and ask.


Why don't you tell us taxpayers. We'd love to know why we're subsidizing MoCo and PG kids when DC kids are being rejected. How is educating Maryland students part of Ellington's mission?


If no bass players from DC apply, and a talented bass player from Silver Spring wants to pay tuition and attend, why not?


So you're telling us that zero D.C. kids are turned away in favor of MD kids?


No, simply that it's not as simple as you make it out to be. A DC kid who has no talent, or an empty slot, will go to an out of state kid. They decide yes/no on all the DC kids before they consider any from out of state.

In addition, the percentage of tuition paying students is capped at 10%. The out of state enrollment is below that limit now (42 out of 575).
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Very. There's an audition, exam, and family interview.


So why, with the latest $200 million subsidy from D.C. Taxpayers, does Ellington take kids from Maryland while it turns away kids from Washington?!


Go to an open house and ask.


Why don't you tell us taxpayers. We'd love to know why we're subsidizing MoCo and PG kids when DC kids are being rejected. How is educating Maryland students part of Ellington's mission?


If no bass players from DC apply, and a talented bass player from Silver Spring wants to pay tuition and attend, why not?


So you're telling us that zero D.C. kids are turned away in favor of MD kids?


No, simply that it's not as simple as you make it out to be. A DC kid who has no talent, or an empty slot, will go to an out of state kid. They decide yes/no on all the DC kids before they consider any from out of state.

In addition, the percentage of tuition paying students is capped at 10%. The out of state enrollment is below that limit now (42 out of 575).


The "legal" out of stare enrollment is below the cap. We all know there are students there that lie about residency.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Very. There's an audition, exam, and family interview.


So why, with the latest $200 million subsidy from D.C. Taxpayers, does Ellington take kids from Maryland while it turns away kids from Washington?!


Go to an open house and ask.


Why don't you tell us taxpayers. We'd love to know why we're subsidizing MoCo and PG kids when DC kids are being rejected. How is educating Maryland students part of Ellington's mission?


If no bass players from DC apply, and a talented bass player from Silver Spring wants to pay tuition and attend, why not?


So you're telling us that zero D.C. kids are turned away in favor of MD kids?


No, simply that it's not as simple as you make it out to be. A DC kid who has no talent, or an empty slot, will go to an out of state kid. They decide yes/no on all the DC kids before they consider any from out of state.

In addition, the percentage of tuition paying students is capped at 10%. The out of state enrollment is below that limit now (42 out of 575).


The "legal" out of stare enrollment is below the cap. We all know there are students there that lie about residency.


Well if you know of parents who are lying about DC residency -- you should absolutely report them. Totally agree with that. Here's the link to do it online or you can call OSSE. https://dcforms.dc.gov/webform/osse-residency-fraud-prevention-form



Anonymous
I recall reading once that Ellington wasn't chartered for the students in DC. It was formed to provide an arts education principally to students of color. That's its mission and culture. So that would mean that kids from PG might have a stronger moral right to an Ellington education than snowflakes from Ward 3.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Very. There's an audition, exam, and family interview.


So why, with the latest $200 million subsidy from D.C. Taxpayers, does Ellington take kids from Maryland while it turns away kids from Washington?!


Go to an open house and ask.


Why don't you tell us taxpayers. We'd love to know why we're subsidizing MoCo and PG kids when DC kids are being rejected. How is educating Maryland students part of Ellington's mission?


If no bass players from DC apply, and a talented bass player from Silver Spring wants to pay tuition and attend, why not?


So you're telling us that zero D.C. kids are turned away in favor of MD kids?


No, simply that it's not as simple as you make it out to be. A DC kid who has no talent, or an empty slot, will go to an out of state kid. They decide yes/no on all the DC kids before they consider any from out of state.

In addition, the percentage of tuition paying students is capped at 10%. The out of state enrollment is below that limit now (42 out of 575).




But instead of essentially having 10 percent of sears thst are officially for out of district students (ignoring the fraudsers), why doesn't Ellington do more outreach to recruit a greater number of talented D.C. Kids?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Very. There's an audition, exam, and family interview.


So why, with the latest $200 million subsidy from D.C. Taxpayers, does Ellington take kids from Maryland while it turns away kids from Washington?!


Go to an open house and ask.


Why don't you tell us taxpayers. We'd love to know why we're subsidizing MoCo and PG kids when DC kids are being rejected. How is educating Maryland students part of Ellington's mission?


If no bass players from DC apply, and a talented bass player from Silver Spring wants to pay tuition and attend, why not?


So you're telling us that zero D.C. kids are turned away in favor of MD kids?


No, simply that it's not as simple as you make it out to be. A DC kid who has no talent, or an empty slot, will go to an out of state kid. They decide yes/no on all the DC kids before they consider any from out of state.

In addition, the percentage of tuition paying students is capped at 10%. The out of state enrollment is below that limit now (42 out of 575).




But instead of essentially having 10 percent of sears thst are officially for out of district students (ignoring the fraudsers), why doesn't Ellington do more outreach to recruit a greater number of talented D.C. Kids?


Seats
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Very. There's an audition, exam, and family interview.


So why, with the latest $200 million subsidy from D.C. Taxpayers, does Ellington take kids from Maryland while it turns away kids from Washington?!


Go to an open house and ask.


Why don't you tell us taxpayers. We'd love to know why we're subsidizing MoCo and PG kids when DC kids are being rejected. How is educating Maryland students part of Ellington's mission?


If no bass players from DC apply, and a talented bass player from Silver Spring wants to pay tuition and attend, why not?


So you're telling us that zero D.C. kids are turned away in favor of MD kids?


No, simply that it's not as simple as you make it out to be. A DC kid who has no talent, or an empty slot, will go to an out of state kid. They decide yes/no on all the DC kids before they consider any from out of state.

In addition, the percentage of tuition paying students is capped at 10%. The out of state enrollment is below that limit now (42 out of 575).


The "legal" out of stare enrollment is below the cap. We all know there are students there that lie about residency.




That's not an Ellington-specific problem, it is endemic to DCPS.

Hence, your beef is with DCPS and OSSE. You are in the wrong forum.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Very. There's an audition, exam, and family interview.


So why, with the latest $200 million subsidy from D.C. Taxpayers, does Ellington take kids from Maryland while it turns away kids from Washington?!


Go to an open house and ask.


Why don't you tell us taxpayers. We'd love to know why we're subsidizing MoCo and PG kids when DC kids are being rejected. How is educating Maryland students part of Ellington's mission?


If no bass players from DC apply, and a talented bass player from Silver Spring wants to pay tuition and attend, why not?


So you're telling us that zero D.C. kids are turned away in favor of MD kids?


No, simply that it's not as simple as you make it out to be. A DC kid who has no talent, or an empty slot, will go to an out of state kid. They decide yes/no on all the DC kids before they consider any from out of state.

In addition, the percentage of tuition paying students is capped at 10%. The out of state enrollment is below that limit now (42 out of 575).




But instead of essentially having 10 percent of sears thst are officially for out of district students (ignoring the fraudsers), why doesn't Ellington do more outreach to recruit a greater number of talented D.C. Kids?


They are in every high school, they are at Ed Fest, they recruit at DCYO, and community based arts group.

Applications have been down while they were in swing space for 3 years. THey've also had interim heads of school for 3 years, which isn't ideal.

I would imagine the building will spur new interest now -- especially as SWW gets more competitive and Wilson gets more crowded. And there is now permanent leadership in place.


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