summary level DC-CAS scores realeased

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Proficiency could be measured by testing the kids at the beginning of the year and testing the same kids at the end of the year. There could be some sort of assessment that is based on what is actually taught during the given time frame. Not testing on a years worth of information two months early.


This makes sense to me. I am not opposed to testing I believe its important to collect hard data to show that kids are learning. We can quibble about how DCPS goes about it and I agree that it doesn't make sense to test on a year's worth of information early. Our 3rd grade teacher complained that it takes so long to get scores back you don't have an opportunity to make improvement because the students have moved on to the next grade. If I recall I think DCPS does some sort of pre-assessment at the beginning of the year and ideally that data becomes the baseline to show improvement.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ah, the Value Added Measure. Yes, you could do that.

For all the problems with this idea, see this very amusing video on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uONqxysWEk8



Ah, yes. The old "since there's no PERFECT system of measurement, it's best to just not use any."

Which, to me, always begs the question of how people in the private workforce manage to successfully get evaluated and promoted throughout the course of their careers. To hear the anti-merit payers tell it, you'd think that the concept of paying for performance even in the face of variables you can't control was something exotic and impossible - instead of something most of the working world deals with EVERY SINGLE DAY.
Anonymous
Well, let's ask that question? How are private school teachers evaluated and promoted?
Anonymous
Does anyone know when the individual school scores will be released? The original press release said principals would have 10 days to review from that date and then the individual scores would become available (July 13) and since there has been no release I am thinking that meant business days?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Then how do you measure success?


I don't. I evaluate the quality of the educational opportunities that are offered.


It's turtles all the way down!

Thanks for my morning dose of infinite regression...
Anonymous
OSSE's website now says August 5th for the release of test scores. It's funny that last year, when many schools experienced gains in terms of AYP, the scores were released immediately.

I thought it was rude to release them on OSSE's website last year, before the principals had seen the scores.

However it seems like there is some stalling this year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Then how do you measure success?


I don't. I evaluate the quality of the educational opportunities that are offered.


It's turtles all the way down!

Thanks for my morning dose of infinite regression...


Anonymous
They are stalling while they "massage the data" and figure out how to spin the individual school results.
Anonymous
"It's turtles all the way down!

Thanks for my morning dose of infinite regression... "

What are you? The McNamara of Education?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They are stalling while they "massage the data" and figure out how to spin the individual school results.


The following is from the Washington Post ("D.C. Wire" blog)"

District officials have pushed back by a week the release of school-level data from the DC-CAS standardized tests. The Office of the State Superintendent of Education (OSSE) was due to post the numbers today. But, kind of like a teacher nudged by students or parents bump a C+ up to a B- or a B+ to an A-, OSSE says it will spend the extra week reviewing appeals and petitions from public and public charter schools.

Perhaps as a way to discourage challenges, OSSE also said it would make all appeals and petitions -- as well as the agency's determination -- public.
Anonymous
When do the charters release their test score data?
Anonymous
the OSSE will be releasing the scores, not the schools. The scores should all be released at the same time.
Anonymous
OSSE is the State Board (even though DC is not a State)--it sometimes works in conjunction/sometimes counterpurpose to the Rhee. My encounters with OSSE have found it to be just as cra--aaazy as any other instrument effecting education in the District. In fact, the only entity that seems to function well (again, from direct experience/observation) is the Charter Board...
Anonymous
Did you purpose call her "the Rhee" ?

Is this similar to "the Donald" ?
Anonymous
Kind of, yeah... I usually don't tweak people's names, but having worked for DCPS I feel I put in a little time and can take a few liberties....

--not a huge fan of the Rheester
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