Wall Street Journal and Times Higher Education - new ranking released

[Anonymous]

How have schools like U of Miami, Tulane, BU climbed so high in the rankings? U of Miami was listed at 37 by WSJ and 44 by USNWR. Tulane was 39 by USNWR. I am sure they are fine schools but they are not research powerhouses nor do they have as many Fortune 500 CEO's as some of the big state schools.

[Anonymous]

For USNWR, graduation rates and peer reputation scores account for a big part of of the score. Research expenditures are, notably, not a major component (at least for USNWR).

I assume that main USNWR rankings focus more on undergraduate education, where research is less of a factor for most students.

[Anonymous]

Penn beats Yale and Harvard. Really? So much for the credibility here.

-- signed a Penn grad.

[Anonymous]

Does anything matter ASIDE from peer opinion. Isn't that why people obsess at these lists in the first place?

I suspect they wrote down a general list and built a methodology around it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Penn beats Yale and Harvard. Really? So much for the credibility here.

-- signed a Penn grad.

The PENN inferiority complex is strong in this one.

-- a (kind of) proud Penn grad

[Anonymous]

Tulane was ranked higher before Katrina and has struggled to move back up in the rankings. Tulane was among the most generous private schools with merit aid (as of several years).

USNEWS has both a national undergraduate ranking (the most famous) and a Global Research Ranking. The results are very different. I'm not sure how relevant graduate research is at the undergraduate level, but it might be important to some.

I like the fact that the new WSJ ranking emphasizes student outcomes rather than what academics think of one another.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Penn beats Yale and Harvard. Really? So much for the credibility here.

-- signed a Penn grad.

Penn is the most pre-professional school in the country. It has the most students beholden to mammon compared to any other 'top 25' school. H and Y have too many weird LAC or savant types so I'm not surprised a publication like WSJ has Penn ranked higiher

[Anonymous]

Can someone cut and paste the entire list?