Do high SES kids stay in Shepherd through 4th and 5th grade?

[Anonymous]

I would also consider many high SES leave before even 1st grade. If you live in the neighborhood ask your neighbors where they send their children and why. It may influence your decision to go private or try to lottery into a public/charter school. Many have actual feedback from their time there, something you won't get on a tour.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would also consider many high SES leave before even 1st grade. If you live in the neighborhood ask your neighbors where they send their children and why. It may influence your decision to go private or try to lottery into a public/charter school. Many have actual feedback from their time there, something you won't get on a tour.

This is changing drastically. We have rising 4th grader and majority of our neighbors have been staying all the way until Deal. The neighbors that we know that go private were already going to go private/charter no matter what (Jewish, immersion, started school before moving into SP, neighbor that is a founder at a charter). I would say the trend is changing drastically in last 3 years alone.

OP, there is an eduction meet up at the park Sunday at 5:30pm open to all neighbors at all schools. You should find some great resources there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would also consider many high SES leave before even 1st grade. If you live in the neighborhood ask your neighbors where they send their children and why. It may influence your decision to go private or try to lottery into a public/charter school. Many have actual feedback from their time there, something you won't get on a tour.

This is changing drastically. We have rising 4th grader and majority of our neighbors have been staying all the way until Deal. The neighbors that we know that go private were already going to go private/charter no matter what (Jewish, immersion, started school before moving into SP, neighbor that is a founder at a charter). I would say the trend is changing drastically in last 3 years alone.

OP, there is an eduction meet up at the park Sunday at 5:30pm open to all neighbors at all schools. You should find some great resources there.

It could in fact change, but remember that each class after prek has very few actual neighborhood kids. Again, only 35% in bounds. Yes, many come from close in neighborhoods, but attend our school because the neighborhood kids do not fill the slots. Again, ask the neighbors where they go and why not Shepherd. Some multigenerational families do not have their youngest attend, even after attending themselves as a child. Why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I keep hearing about how high SES kids leave EOTP schools around 3rd grade because of the more challenging aspects of being in school with kids who aren't as privileged. Is this something that happens at Shepherd as well? I really would like for my DC to be in a school where the kids actually stay for the most part. Is there anywhere that I can find this kind of demographic information by grade? TIA

There are always individual cases, but Shepherd suffers from this attrition a lot less than other EOTP schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would also consider many high SES leave before even 1st grade. If you live in the neighborhood ask your neighbors where they send their children and why. It may influence your decision to go private or try to lottery into a public/charter school. Many have actual feedback from their time there, something you won't get on a tour.

This is changing drastically. We have rising 4th grader and majority of our neighbors have been staying all the way until Deal. The neighbors that we know that go private were already going to go private/charter no matter what (Jewish, immersion, started school before moving into SP, neighbor that is a founder at a charter). I would say the trend is changing drastically in last 3 years alone.

OP, there is an eduction meet up at the park Sunday at 5:30pm open to all neighbors at all schools. You should find some great resources there.

It could in fact change, but remember that each class after prek has very few actual neighborhood kids. Again, only 35% in bounds. Yes, many come from close in neighborhoods, but attend our school because the neighborhood kids do not fill the slots. Again, ask the neighbors where they go and why not Shepherd. Some multigenerational families do not have their youngest attend, even after attending themselves as a child. Why?

All of my son's friends from the neighborhood (Colonial Village) went to Shepherd, then Deal and now Wilson.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would also consider many high SES leave before even 1st grade. If you live in the neighborhood ask your neighbors where they send their children and why. It may influence your decision to go private or try to lottery into a public/charter school. Many have actual feedback from their time there, something you won't get on a tour.

This is changing drastically. We have rising 4th grader and majority of our neighbors have been staying all the way until Deal. The neighbors that we know that go private were already going to go private/charter no matter what (Jewish, immersion, started school before moving into SP, neighbor that is a founder at a charter). I would say the trend is changing drastically in last 3 years alone.

OP, there is an eduction meet up at the park Sunday at 5:30pm open to all neighbors at all schools. You should find some great resources there.

It could in fact change, but remember that each class after prek has very few actual neighborhood kids. Again, only 35% in bounds. Yes, many come from close in neighborhoods, but attend our school because the neighborhood kids do not fill the slots. Again, ask the neighbors where they go and why not Shepherd. Some multigenerational families do not have their youngest attend, even after attending themselves as a child. Why?

DP. Again, your info is dated. Agreed there are fewer in the upper grades, but kindergarten and 1st grade are about half IB. I am a current parent with a child in one of these grades.

You've made a similar comment twice now. Innuendo aside, what exactly are you trying to say about why in-boundary kids don't attend Shepherd?

[Anonymous]

Shepherd's got a lot going for it, but I too recommend you talk to some families. Spend some time seeing the kids on the playground after school.

However, I will also say regarding the test scores: you're talking such a tiny cohort. Maybe 40 kids total for each upper grade. Given that, a drop in test scores is literally only a few kids. Shepherd is a fine choice for a school. It's a little offensive, the way dcurbanmom parents seem so terrified of the "upper grades." These are all kids, and if something isn't working, you fix it.

That being said, we left Shepherd after third.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would also consider many high SES leave before even 1st grade. If you live in the neighborhood ask your neighbors where they send their children and why. It may influence your decision to go private or try to lottery into a public/charter school. Many have actual feedback from their time there, something you won't get on a tour.

This is changing drastically. We have rising 4th grader and majority of our neighbors have been staying all the way until Deal. The neighbors that we know that go private were already going to go private/charter no matter what (Jewish, immersion, started school before moving into SP, neighbor that is a founder at a charter). I would say the trend is changing drastically in last 3 years alone.

OP, there is an eduction meet up at the park Sunday at 5:30pm open to all neighbors at all schools. You should find some great resources there.

It could in fact change, but remember that each class after prek has very few actual neighborhood kids. Again, only 35% in bounds. Yes, many come from close in neighborhoods, but attend our school because the neighborhood kids do not fill the slots. Again, ask the neighbors where they go and why not Shepherd. Some multigenerational families do not have their youngest attend, even after attending themselves as a child. Why?

With all due respect, OP is asking about higher SES, not IB. OOB does not equal poor. Shepherd is only 28% low income so there are more higher SES OOB than not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would also consider many high SES leave before even 1st grade. If you live in the neighborhood ask your neighbors where they send their children and why. It may influence your decision to go private or try to lottery into a public/charter school. Many have actual feedback from their time there, something you won't get on a tour.

This is changing drastically. We have rising 4th grader and majority of our neighbors have been staying all the way until Deal. The neighbors that we know that go private were already going to go private/charter no matter what (Jewish, immersion, started school before moving into SP, neighbor that is a founder at a charter). I would say the trend is changing drastically in last 3 years alone.

OP, there is an eduction meet up at the park Sunday at 5:30pm open to all neighbors at all schools. You should find some great resources there.

It could in fact change, but remember that each class after prek has very few actual neighborhood kids. Again, only 35% in bounds. Yes, many come from close in neighborhoods, but attend our school because the neighborhood kids do not fill the slots. Again, ask the neighbors where they go and why not Shepherd. Some multigenerational families do not have their youngest attend, even after attending themselves as a child. Why?

DP. Again, your info is dated. Agreed there are fewer in the upper grades, but kindergarten and 1st grade are about half IB. I am a current parent with a child in one of these grades.

You've made a similar comment twice now. Innuendo aside, what exactly are you trying to say about why in-boundary kids don't attend Shepherd?

This is same anti Shepherd poster that always comes on any thread that may mention Shepherd. We've all heard her story before. I don't discount it, I just don't understand why someone still makes a point to make anti Shepherd posts so frequently.

[Anonymous]

Lol. Nope. That is not me. I wish Shepherd all the best and always have. In a few years, when you and your families are gone, it will no doubt be a much nicer place.

Kind of sad though, how you now attribute every critique of the school to me, one of the few people who actually tried to discuss some of the issues the school has, both before, during, and after our attendence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Shepherd's got a lot going for it, but I too recommend you talk to some families. Spend some time seeing the kids on the playground after school.

However, I will also say regarding the test scores: you're talking such a tiny cohort. Maybe 40 kids total for each upper grade. Given that, a drop in test scores is literally only a few kids. Shepherd is a fine choice for a school. It's a little offensive, the way dcurbanmom parents seem so terrified of the "upper grades." These are all kids, and if something isn't working, you fix it.

That being said, we left Shepherd after third.

For the record, this is the post that I wrote. And I stand by it.

Love, anti-Shepherf mom

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would also consider many high SES leave before even 1st grade. If you live in the neighborhood ask your neighbors where they send their children and why. It may influence your decision to go private or try to lottery into a public/charter school. Many have actual feedback from their time there, something you won't get on a tour.

This is changing drastically. We have rising 4th grader and majority of our neighbors have been staying all the way until Deal. The neighbors that we know that go private were already going to go private/charter no matter what (Jewish, immersion, started school before moving into SP, neighbor that is a founder at a charter). I would say the trend is changing drastically in last 3 years alone.

OP, there is an eduction meet up at the park Sunday at 5:30pm open to all neighbors at all schools. You should find some great resources there.

It could in fact change, but remember that each class after prek has very few actual neighborhood kids. Again, only 35% in bounds. Yes, many come from close in neighborhoods, but attend our school because the neighborhood kids do not fill the slots. Again, ask the neighbors where they go and why not Shepherd. Some multigenerational families do not have their youngest attend, even after attending themselves as a child. Why?

DP. Again, your info is dated. Agreed there are fewer in the upper grades, but kindergarten and 1st grade are about half IB. I am a current parent with a child in one of these grades.

You've made a similar comment twice now. Innuendo aside, what exactly are you trying to say about why in-boundary kids don't attend Shepherd?

This is same anti Shepherd poster that always comes on any thread that may mention Shepherd. We've all heard her story before. I don't discount it, I just don't understand why someone still makes a point to make anti Shepherd posts so frequently.

There are 2 anti-Shepherd posters. One is blunt about her issues, the other dances around them.

[Anonymous]

How can anyone be anti a school? Just say it wasn't a good fit for you, why actively be against a school? So weird.

[Anonymous]

I'm not anti the school. I've been so blunt with my issues that I'm pretty sure everyone knows us. I have stopped minding this. And, indeed, Shepherd has many positive qualities, which I have tried to also emphasize. But every time I say anything, the anti-shepherd-poster people chime in. Pretty sure I know who they are too. It's all fine. As you say, different things for different people.

I am, however, slightly annoyed that now any criticism of the school gets thrown at my feet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not anti the school. I've been so blunt with my issues that I'm pretty sure everyone knows us. I have stopped minding this. And, indeed, Shepherd has many positive qualities, which I have tried to also emphasize. But every time I say anything, the anti-shepherd-poster people chime in. Pretty sure I know who they are too. It's all fine. As you say, different things for different people.

I am, however, slightly annoyed that now any criticism of the school gets thrown at my feet.

Fwiw I called you the anti Shepherd poster. I've done it before a few months ago. I'm sure you don't know me. I've never been to the school but I do admire it. I've always found it fascinating that you come on very Shepherd thread to knock it. I'm not saying you haven't mentioned positives but at some point it gets a little old. Like we get it, you didn't have a good relationship with your ex boyfriend, do you really have to go on every thread on his Facebook to tell people you're anti-your ex and how you're not a fan? Can't you settle with giving your opinion on the school after 10+ times? Eventually, your constant posts says more about you than your ex. I'm trying to say this in the nicest way possible. Not trying to be snarky or bitchy, I promise. Anyway, like I said, I promise you don't know me so don't assume I'm a neighbor.