MoCo High Schools Rank Lower

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Anonymous wrote:And how do they compare to high schools in DC? Virginia? Because that's what is relevant to those of us not doing a national search for high school admissions.

VA schools mentioned on DCUM:

#5 Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology
#108 McLean High School
#151 Madison High
#160 George Mason High School
#162 Oakton High
#190 Langley High
#200 Woodson High
#363 Yorktown

DC schools:

#815 Wilson
#88 School Without Walls High School

I'd say since mcps has five HSs in top 150, it's doing much better than the surrounding areas.

VA has talent drain by TJ going on.

Well it's hard to tell how that would play out in the ranking. It's possible that the home HSs still wouldn't break top 150, and you wouldn't have TJ at #5.

It doesn't seem like a great inferential leap to assume that distributing 1800 students who average in the top 2% in SAT scores out to the Virginia high schools would improve their ratings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And how do they compare to high schools in DC? Virginia? Because that's what is relevant to those of us not doing a national search for high school admissions.

VA schools mentioned on DCUM:

#5 Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology
#108 McLean High School
#151 Madison High
#160 George Mason High School
#162 Oakton High
#190 Langley High
#200 Woodson High
#363 Yorktown

DC schools:

#815 Wilson
#88 School Without Walls High School

I'd say since mcps has five HSs in top 150, it's doing much better than the surrounding areas.

VA has talent drain by TJ going on.

+1.

In Howard County, River HS is an interesting one. Total enrollment is 1343 and the student-teacher ratio is astonishing 14:1 !!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And how do they compare to high schools in DC? Virginia? Because that's what is relevant to those of us not doing a national search for high school admissions.

VA schools mentioned on DCUM:

#5 Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology
#108 McLean High School
#151 Madison High
#160 George Mason High School
#162 Oakton High
#190 Langley High
#200 Woodson High
#363 Yorktown

DC schools:

#815 Wilson
#88 School Without Walls High School

I'd say since mcps has five HSs in top 150, it's doing much better than the surrounding areas.

VA has talent drain by TJ going on.

Well it's hard to tell how that would play out in the ranking. It's possible that the home HSs still wouldn't break top 150, and you wouldn't have TJ at #5.

It doesn't seem like a great inferential leap to assume that distributing 1800 students who average in the top 2% in SAT scores out to the Virginia high schools would improve their ratings.

And most of those students come from the other top rated FCPS schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And how do they compare to high schools in DC? Virginia? Because that's what is relevant to those of us not doing a national search for high school admissions.

VA schools mentioned on DCUM:

#5 Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology
#108 McLean High School
#151 Madison High
#160 George Mason High School
#162 Oakton High
#190 Langley High
#200 Woodson High
#363 Yorktown

DC schools:

#815 Wilson
#88 School Without Walls High School

I'd say since mcps has five HSs in top 150, it's doing much better than the surrounding areas.

VA has talent drain by TJ going on.

Well it's hard to tell how that would play out in the ranking. It's possible that the home HSs still wouldn't break top 150, and you wouldn't have TJ at #5.

It doesn't seem like a great inferential leap to assume that distributing 1800 students who average in the top 2% in SAT scores out to the Virginia high schools would improve their ratings.

The top 2% could be ~10% in Mclean / Madison etc. Maybe, this 10% can bump up their ranking by a good number. My guess is that McLean HS could beat Churchill at least.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And how do they compare to high schools in DC? Virginia? Because that's what is relevant to those of us not doing a national search for high school admissions.

VA schools mentioned on DCUM:

#5 Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology
#108 McLean High School
#151 Madison High
#160 George Mason High School
#162 Oakton High
#190 Langley High
#200 Woodson High
#363 Yorktown

DC schools:

#815 Wilson
#88 School Without Walls High School

I'd say since mcps has five HSs in top 150, it's doing much better than the surrounding areas.

VA has talent drain by TJ going on.

Well it's hard to tell how that would play out in the ranking. It's possible that the home HSs still wouldn't break top 150, and you wouldn't have TJ at #5.

It doesn't seem like a great inferential leap to assume that distributing 1800 students who average in the top 2% in SAT scores out to the Virginia high schools would improve their ratings.

Someone up thread stated that the rankings heavily weigh the achievement gap, so again, not having TJ wouldn't necessarily help the other fcps HSs break the top 150.

[Anonymous]

MCPS is far better than FX as we all know.

[Anonymous]

Blair takes moco best students . Moco has most of the highest rated schools , that's why they win its academic EVERY year. Blair places tons more kids on the national physics and math teams than Tj year in and year out.

[Anonymous]

^ popcorn time...

[Anonymous]

Setting aside the many reasons these ratings are stupid, let's just point out that comparing high schools that score #80 vs. #250 is particularly silly when there are thousands of high schools in the country.

As one example, the public high school I went to is the highest rated non-magnet school in the country on one of the major ratings and in the 300s on another.

Even if the ratings EVER meant anything, they decisively don't mean that swings of rankings by a couple dozen spots reflect actual changes in school quality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Blair takes moco best students . Moco has most of the highest rated schools , that's why they win its academic EVERY year. Blair places tons more kids on the national physics and math teams than Tj year in and year out.

This is all good and well, but the ranking isn't about which school can provide the best education to the best students. It's about the median outcome.

There is no MOCO equivalent to TJ. Only a small fraction of Blair students are in the magnet.

[Anonymous]

I can remember when TJ used to be #1 every year. It seems to lose ground with the passage of each year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Blair takes moco best students . Moco has most of the highest rated schools , that's why they win its academic EVERY year. Blair places tons more kids on the national physics and math teams than Tj year in and year out.

This is all good and well, but the ranking isn't about which school can provide the best education to the best students. It's about the median outcome.

There is no MOCO equivalent to TJ. Only a small fraction of Blair students are in the magnet.

True. But the absolute smartest kids in the metro area are at Blair year in and year out.

[Anonymous]

How about RM also siphoning kids from other HS's.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Blair takes moco best students . Moco has most of the highest rated schools , that's why they win its academic EVERY year. Blair places tons more kids on the national physics and math teams than Tj year in and year out.

This is all good and well, but the ranking isn't about which school can provide the best education to the best students. It's about the median outcome.

There is no MOCO equivalent to TJ. Only a small fraction of Blair students are in the magnet.

True. But the absolute smartest kids in the metro area are at Blair year in and year out.

I completely see that, but the rankings will never reflect this because they are mainly useless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Blair takes moco best students . Moco has most of the highest rated schools , that's why they win its academic EVERY year. Blair places tons more kids on the national physics and math teams than Tj year in and year out.

This is all good and well, but the ranking isn't about which school can provide the best education to the best students. It's about the median outcome.

There is no MOCO equivalent to TJ. Only a small fraction of Blair students are in the magnet.

True. But the absolute smartest kids in the metro area are at RM/IB year in and year out.

fixed that for you