If you don't like DC, what prevents you from leaving?

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Anonymous wrote:^I mean, if you are sooooooo excited to live in DC, far be it for me to rain on your parade. The museums are great, absolutely. But the shittier and shittier with every passing year public transit makes it a hassle to get to, let alone the traffic

It's mainly the culture. There is such a dearth of creative culture in DC. Of course, it's a government center, so it's going to attract the wonk types, not the creatives, but still... for a large city the dearth of creativity on such a level is kind of remarkable.

Also the people. Again with the lack of creativity- it tends to attract many small minded rule follower types, whether liberal or conservative. It doesnt have the vibrancy of great world cities like New York, LA, San Francisco, even Seattle.

Actually, it's crabby people like you that make the place suck. If you're not already elsewhere, please get there, fast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^I mean, if you are sooooooo excited to live in DC, far be it for me to rain on your parade. The museums are great, absolutely. But the shittier and shittier with every passing year public transit makes it a hassle to get to, let alone the traffic

It's mainly the culture. There is such a dearth of creative culture in DC. Of course, it's a government center, so it's going to attract the wonk types, not the creatives, but still... for a large city the dearth of creativity on such a level is kind of remarkable.

Also the people. Again with the lack of creativity- it tends to attract many small minded rule follower types, whether liberal or conservative. It doesnt have the vibrancy of great world cities like New York, LA, San Francisco, even Seattle.

I think you'd be disappointed how uncreative NY and LA are. They are extremely expensive cities and many of the creative types are living off of their parents or trust funds. It's just truly not that creative. There are Starbucks and whole foods all over both of those cities.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh, I dont live in DC anymore. Thank God. But I still reserve the right to snark on it, because it genuinely is a shitty place.

If you dont like it, don't open threads complaining about DC.

Why???

DC has interesting architecture
World class museums
Plenty of jobs
Inexpensive housing relative to salaries
Public transit (yes there are problems but many other us cities don't have any)
Lots of parks and green space
Two large airports
Train lines to other cities nearby
Not too far from the beach and mountains
Decent and improving restaurant scene
Plenty of events and things to do

Maybe it's because I live in DC and not the burbs, but I love it here. I'm often convinced that the haters live outside the district and spend a lot of time fighting traffic. In that case I would hate it too, but I wouldn't claim to live in DC.

Are you not originally from DC? You sound like one of those "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" types that arrive in the "big city" bright eyed and bushy tailed, convinced that this is truly the pinnacle of urban life and fascinated by every inch of city sidewalk.

For those of us who grew up in an urban area, you have to understand that we have different standards.

Not OP but you still haven't given specifics. And, where did you grow up?

Since I asked first, shouldn't you be answering?

I'm not that pp. But, to answer your question, born and raised in DC. You?

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Anonymous wrote:Oh, I dont live in DC anymore. Thank God. But I still reserve the right to snark on it, because it genuinely is a shitty place.

If you dont like it, don't open threads complaining about DC.

Why???

DC has interesting architecture
World class museums
Plenty of jobs
Inexpensive housing relative to salaries
Public transit (yes there are problems but many other us cities don't have any)
Lots of parks and green space
Two large airports
Train lines to other cities nearby
Not too far from the beach and mountains
Decent and improving restaurant scene
Plenty of events and things to do

Maybe it's because I live in DC and not the burbs, but I love it here. I'm often convinced that the haters live outside the district and spend a lot of time fighting traffic. In that case I would hate it too, but I wouldn't claim to live in DC.

Are you not originally from DC? You sound like one of those "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" types that arrive in the "big city" bright eyed and bushy tailed, convinced that this is truly the pinnacle of urban life and fascinated by every inch of city sidewalk.

For those of us who grew up in an urban area, you have to understand that we have different standards.

I grew up in NY. I don't think DC is the pinnacle of urban life, but I do think it has a lot to offer. however, I'm a very positive person and have lived a rather successful life so far. You won't get far in life with the attitude you exhibit. You only live once and you need to get excited about the life you're living and where you live.

I don't live in DC anymore, thank God! And yes, I'm thrilled to be living elsewhere and very excited about life.

No one that excited about life would be on an Internet forum of another city arguing that particular city sucks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^I mean, if you are sooooooo excited to live in DC, far be it for me to rain on your parade. The museums are great, absolutely. But the shittier and shittier with every passing year public transit makes it a hassle to get to, let alone the traffic

It's mainly the culture. There is such a dearth of creative culture in DC. Of course, it's a government center, so it's going to attract the wonk types, not the creatives, but still... for a large city the dearth of creativity on such a level is kind of remarkable.

Also the people. Again with the lack of creativity- it tends to attract many small minded rule follower types, whether liberal or conservative. It doesnt have the vibrancy of great world cities like New York, LA, San Francisco, even Seattle.

I think you'd be disappointed how uncreative NY and LA are. They are extremely expensive cities and many of the creative types are living off of their parents or trust funds. It's just truly not that creative. There are Starbucks and whole foods all over both of those cities.

The presence of Starbucks and Whole foods does not invalidate creativity. I have lived in LA, it is absolutely, shockingly, creative.

NY's creative class is being slowly run out by rising rents but they still have a large number of (albeit already successful) creative types and artists.

But yeah- anyone who has lived in LA would know why it deserves the title "creative capital of the world"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh, I dont live in DC anymore. Thank God. But I still reserve the right to snark on it, because it genuinely is a shitty place.

If you dont like it, don't open threads complaining about DC.

Why???

DC has interesting architecture
World class museums
Plenty of jobs
Inexpensive housing relative to salaries
Public transit (yes there are problems but many other us cities don't have any)
Lots of parks and green space
Two large airports
Train lines to other cities nearby
Not too far from the beach and mountains
Decent and improving restaurant scene
Plenty of events and things to do

Maybe it's because I live in DC and not the burbs, but I love it here. I'm often convinced that the haters live outside the district and spend a lot of time fighting traffic. In that case I would hate it too, but I wouldn't claim to live in DC.

Are you not originally from DC? You sound like one of those "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" types that arrive in the "big city" bright eyed and bushy tailed, convinced that this is truly the pinnacle of urban life and fascinated by every inch of city sidewalk.

For those of us who grew up in an urban area, you have to understand that we have different standards.

I grew up in NY. I don't think DC is the pinnacle of urban life, but I do think it has a lot to offer. however, I'm a very positive person and have lived a rather successful life so far. You won't get far in life with the attitude you exhibit. You only live once and you need to get excited about the life you're living and where you live.

I don't live in DC anymore, thank God! And yes, I'm thrilled to be living elsewhere and very excited about life.

No one that excited about life would be on an Internet forum of another city arguing that particular city sucks.

But it's okay to be arguing on an internet forum otherwise? LOL, okay!

[Anonymous]

Nobody's answering the question.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^I mean, if you are sooooooo excited to live in DC, far be it for me to rain on your parade. The museums are great, absolutely. But the shittier and shittier with every passing year public transit makes it a hassle to get to, let alone the traffic

It's mainly the culture. There is such a dearth of creative culture in DC. Of course, it's a government center, so it's going to attract the wonk types, not the creatives, but still... for a large city the dearth of creativity on such a level is kind of remarkable.

Also the people. Again with the lack of creativity- it tends to attract many small minded rule follower types, whether liberal or conservative. It doesnt have the vibrancy of great world cities like New York, LA, San Francisco, even Seattle.

I think you'd be disappointed how uncreative NY and LA are. They are extremely expensive cities and many of the creative types are living off of their parents or trust funds. It's just truly not that creative. There are Starbucks and whole foods all over both of those cities.

I think people overestimate the creative scene in many places.

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Anonymous wrote:^I mean, if you are sooooooo excited to live in DC, far be it for me to rain on your parade. The museums are great, absolutely. But the shittier and shittier with every passing year public transit makes it a hassle to get to, let alone the traffic

It's mainly the culture. There is such a dearth of creative culture in DC. Of course, it's a government center, so it's going to attract the wonk types, not the creatives, but still... for a large city the dearth of creativity on such a level is kind of remarkable.

Also the people. Again with the lack of creativity- it tends to attract many small minded rule follower types, whether liberal or conservative. It doesnt have the vibrancy of great world cities like New York, LA, San Francisco, even Seattle.

I think you'd be disappointed how uncreative NY and LA are. They are extremely expensive cities and many of the creative types are living off of their parents or trust funds. It's just truly not that creative. There are Starbucks and whole foods all over both of those cities.

The presence of Starbucks and Whole foods does not invalidate creativity. I have lived in LA, it is absolutely, shockingly, creative.

NY's creative class is being slowly run out by rising rents but they still have a large number of (albeit already successful) creative types and artists.

But yeah- anyone who has lived in LA would know why it deserves the title "creative capital of the world"

Well some of us have to do things and pay bills. Not sit around and do whatever "creative" things you think are important.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^I mean, if you are sooooooo excited to live in DC, far be it for me to rain on your parade. The museums are great, absolutely. But the shittier and shittier with every passing year public transit makes it a hassle to get to, let alone the traffic

It's mainly the culture. There is such a dearth of creative culture in DC. Of course, it's a government center, so it's going to attract the wonk types, not the creatives, but still... for a large city the dearth of creativity on such a level is kind of remarkable.

Also the people. Again with the lack of creativity- it tends to attract many small minded rule follower types, whether liberal or conservative. It doesnt have the vibrancy of great world cities like New York, LA, San Francisco, even Seattle.

I think you'd be disappointed how uncreative NY and LA are. They are extremely expensive cities and many of the creative types are living off of their parents or trust funds. It's just truly not that creative. There are Starbucks and whole foods all over both of those cities.

The presence of Starbucks and Whole foods does not invalidate creativity. I have lived in LA, it is absolutely, shockingly, creative.

NY's creative class is being slowly run out by rising rents but they still have a large number of (albeit already successful) creative types and artists.

But yeah- anyone who has lived in LA would know why it deserves the title "creative capital of the world"

DC is a political town. To expect it to be heavily influenced by the arts is unfair.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^I mean, if you are sooooooo excited to live in DC, far be it for me to rain on your parade. The museums are great, absolutely. But the shittier and shittier with every passing year public transit makes it a hassle to get to, let alone the traffic

It's mainly the culture. There is such a dearth of creative culture in DC. Of course, it's a government center, so it's going to attract the wonk types, not the creatives, but still... for a large city the dearth of creativity on such a level is kind of remarkable.

Also the people. Again with the lack of creativity- it tends to attract many small minded rule follower types, whether liberal or conservative. It doesnt have the vibrancy of great world cities like New York, LA, San Francisco, even Seattle.

I think you'd be disappointed how uncreative NY and LA are. They are extremely expensive cities and many of the creative types are living off of their parents or trust funds. It's just truly not that creative. There are Starbucks and whole foods all over both of those cities.

I think people overestimate the creative scene in many places.

+1. Or how much exposure you'd have to it living in that city. Most people are busy working and/or raising a family. Not visiting underground music venues and art exhibitions.

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Anonymous wrote:^I mean, if you are sooooooo excited to live in DC, far be it for me to rain on your parade. The museums are great, absolutely. But the shittier and shittier with every passing year public transit makes it a hassle to get to, let alone the traffic

It's mainly the culture. There is such a dearth of creative culture in DC. Of course, it's a government center, so it's going to attract the wonk types, not the creatives, but still... for a large city the dearth of creativity on such a level is kind of remarkable.

Also the people. Again with the lack of creativity- it tends to attract many small minded rule follower types, whether liberal or conservative. It doesnt have the vibrancy of great world cities like New York, LA, San Francisco, even Seattle.

I think you'd be disappointed how uncreative NY and LA are. They are extremely expensive cities and many of the creative types are living off of their parents or trust funds. It's just truly not that creative. There are Starbucks and whole foods all over both of those cities.

The presence of Starbucks and Whole foods does not invalidate creativity. I have lived in LA, it is absolutely, shockingly, creative.

NY's creative class is being slowly run out by rising rents but they still have a large number of (albeit already successful) creative types and artists.

But yeah- anyone who has lived in LA would know why it deserves the title "creative capital of the world"

Well some of us have to do things and pay bills. Not sit around and do whatever "creative" things you think are important.

And that's EXACTLY the attitude that makes DC so boring.

The difference is many cities actually have huge sources of revenue from the creative fields- whether Silicon Valley with technology, NY with fashion, LA with the film industry, etc. DC is kind of unusual in that it's a city that is fairly large without really having ANY major creative industry.

The only thing comparable MIGHT be certain cities in the Rust Belt, like old Detroit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^I mean, if you are sooooooo excited to live in DC, far be it for me to rain on your parade. The museums are great, absolutely. But the shittier and shittier with every passing year public transit makes it a hassle to get to, let alone the traffic

It's mainly the culture. There is such a dearth of creative culture in DC. Of course, it's a government center, so it's going to attract the wonk types, not the creatives, but still... for a large city the dearth of creativity on such a level is kind of remarkable.

Also the people. Again with the lack of creativity- it tends to attract many small minded rule follower types, whether liberal or conservative. It doesnt have the vibrancy of great world cities like New York, LA, San Francisco, even Seattle.

I think you'd be disappointed how uncreative NY and LA are. They are extremely expensive cities and many of the creative types are living off of their parents or trust funds. It's just truly not that creative. There are Starbucks and whole foods all over both of those cities.

The presence of Starbucks and Whole foods does not invalidate creativity. I have lived in LA, it is absolutely, shockingly, creative.

NY's creative class is being slowly run out by rising rents but they still have a large number of (albeit already successful) creative types and artists.

But yeah- anyone who has lived in LA would know why it deserves the title "creative capital of the world"

DC is a political town. To expect it to be heavily influenced by the arts is unfair.

I don't think anyone expects it to be that way- but they also dont have to like it or act "enchanted" with it as some others might be. Look, the only person to blame for making DC the way it is is whoever decided to move the capital to Washington DC. It's a politics city, that's a given. But plenty of people hate the homogeneity and sameness that that has caused. And prefer other cities that dont have that particular and unique climate.

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Anonymous wrote:^I mean, if you are sooooooo excited to live in DC, far be it for me to rain on your parade. The museums are great, absolutely. But the shittier and shittier with every passing year public transit makes it a hassle to get to, let alone the traffic

It's mainly the culture. There is such a dearth of creative culture in DC. Of course, it's a government center, so it's going to attract the wonk types, not the creatives, but still... for a large city the dearth of creativity on such a level is kind of remarkable.

Also the people. Again with the lack of creativity- it tends to attract many small minded rule follower types, whether liberal or conservative. It doesnt have the vibrancy of great world cities like New York, LA, San Francisco, even Seattle.

I think you'd be disappointed how uncreative NY and LA are. They are extremely expensive cities and many of the creative types are living off of their parents or trust funds. It's just truly not that creative. There are Starbucks and whole foods all over both of those cities.

The presence of Starbucks and Whole foods does not invalidate creativity. I have lived in LA, it is absolutely, shockingly, creative.

NY's creative class is being slowly run out by rising rents but they still have a large number of (albeit already successful) creative types and artists.

But yeah- anyone who has lived in LA would know why it deserves the title "creative capital of the world"

Well some of us have to do things and pay bills. Not sit around and do whatever "creative" things you think are important.

And that's EXACTLY the attitude that makes DC so boring.

The difference is many cities actually have huge sources of revenue from the creative fields- whether Silicon Valley with technology, NY with fashion, LA with the film industry, etc. DC is kind of unusual in that it's a city that is fairly large without really having ANY major creative industry.

The only thing comparable MIGHT be certain cities in the Rust Belt, like old Detroit.

I lived in NY and didn't find it any more creative than DC. There are more independent cinemas but that's about it. Locals typically don't go to Broadway plays, at least frequently. There is a better dining scene but NY is also a huge city. Again, most people are busy working and raising a family or if younger, traveling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh, I dont live in DC anymore. Thank God. But I still reserve the right to snark on it, because it genuinely is a shitty place.

If you dont like it, don't open threads complaining about DC.

You moved away, and yet you still post here. It says a lot about you and or where you live now.