Four years in prison for teen party student in Montgomery County

[Anonymous]

Don't miss this quote from Bethesda Magazine article:
(State attorney) "Anderson also cited recorded phone call conversations from Ellis while in jail the past 34 days in which he used crude language to describe his situation and his desire to be at the beach “having a lit-ass time” instead of awaiting sentencing."

[Anonymous]

Disgusting.

4 years is not enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't miss this quote from Bethesda Magazine article:
(State attorney) "Anderson also cited recorded phone call conversations from Ellis while in jail the past 34 days in which he used crude language to describe his situation and his desire to be at the beach “having a lit-ass time” instead of awaiting sentencing."

His attitude is disgusting. 4 years is not enough.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Parents, stop letting this crap happen in your homes. 2 dead kids and one in jail for up to 4 years. Hope this keeps the Salzman family up at night.

I think the sentence was too harsh. The boys got into the car knowing he was impaired.

I hope the Li and Murk families can find some peace in their hearts as time go by. They are in my prayers.

Riding while drunk is not a crime and not a mitigating factor when proving the elements of vehicular manslaughter.

I agree with PP. His sentence is already harsh enough, having killed two of his friends. The 4 year jail term (will serve 1, mostl likely) is too harsh.

Too harsh? Two people are dead. They happened to have been his friends, but he could have killed anyone while driving drunk.

I think it's too lenient.

The party hosting parents deserve jail time, but let's be realistic--the parents of the kids who died knew their kids were drinking. How did they expect them to get home if not with their equally drunk friends. They don't deserve jail time, but their sentence is life long.

Absolutely this! He was driving at speeds up to 100mph! 4 years is WAY too light of a sentence.

What about the guilty lawyer Kenneth Saltzman? Not even one single second behind bars. He's still engaging in the teen drunken party business, but now he takes them to Mexico where he's protected from the law.

[Anonymous]

I have mixed feelings about the sentence. His lawyer wanted 18 months and that would have kept him in the Montgomery County Detention Center, where there are much better services than in the State prisons. And since he will eventually return to our community, services would be beneficial. He's obviously got some sort of addiction problem. Probably psychological issues as well. He may come out worse than when he went in. And that doesn't benefit anyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have mixed feelings about the sentence. His lawyer wanted 18 months and that would have kept him in the Montgomery County Detention Center, where there are much better services than in the State prisons. And since he will eventually return to our community, services would be beneficial. He's obviously got some sort of addiction problem. Probably psychological issues as well. He may come out worse than when he went in. And that doesn't benefit anyone.

Don't most prisoners have a mental health issues? Yes.
Saltzman parents and kids have mental health issues to. Ok. But they worked the system to avoid jail time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Parents, stop letting this crap happen in your homes. 2 dead kids and one in jail for up to 4 years. Hope this keeps the Salzman family up at night.

I think the sentence was too harsh. The boys got into the car knowing he was impaired.

I hope the Li and Murk families can find some peace in their hearts as time go by. They are in my prayers.

Riding while drunk is not a crime and not a mitigating factor when proving the elements of vehicular manslaughter.

I agree with PP. His sentence is already harsh enough, having killed two of his friends. The 4 year jail term (will serve 1, mostl likely) is too harsh.

Too harsh? Two people are dead. They happened to have been his friends, but he could have killed anyone while driving drunk.

I think it's too lenient.

The party hosting parents deserve jail time, but let's be realistic--the parents of the kids who died knew their kids were drinking. How did they expect them to get home if not with their equally drunk friends. They don't deserve jail time, but their sentence is life long.

Absolutely this! He was driving at speeds up to 100mph! 4 years is WAY too light of a sentence.

What about the guilty lawyer Kenneth Saltzman? Not even one single second behind bars. He's still engaging in the teen drunken party business, but now he takes them to Mexico where he's protected from the law.

His conviction was ridiculous as well. I think adults that supply alcohol to kids should go to jail. And with Saltzman being a lawyer, he should be disbarred.

But at the end of the day he didn't drive the car killing his friends. Ellis deserves the harshest of sentences. And reading the commentary on his disgusting phone conversations only reaffirms that. No remorse.

[Anonymous]

The parents did not drive the car.

[Anonymous]

The sentence is not.too long. If anything, it is too short. He is a repeat offender with multiple instances of both substance abuse and impaired driving. He blew off earlier warnings and finally killed someone...two someone's in fact. He has no remorse for killing his own friends. That is criminal behavior and deserves to be punished for manslaughter.

[Anonymous]

From the Washington Post article:

"In one [recorded phone message] Anderson said, Ellis could be heard saying: “If it wasn’t for this bull----, I’d be at the beach having a lit-ass time.”"

"Lit-ass time" means getting drunk. This punk still doesn't own what he did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The parents did not drive the car.

It's like giving the kid a deadly weapon. Mr and Mrs Saltzman watched those kids get smashed as they hosted another party, and then watched them all get in their cars to drive home. Sure, Ellis pulled the trigger, but Saltzman could have and should have just said no, and driven the kids himself. Or was he too drunk to drive, just like the kids? Saltzman was more worried about his own ass for giving those minors alcohol.

I wouldn't want to be caught dead in the same town with such lowlife.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have mixed feelings about the sentence. His lawyer wanted 18 months and that would have kept him in the Montgomery County Detention Center, where there are much better services than in the State prisons. And since he will eventually return to our community, services would be beneficial. He's obviously got some sort of addiction problem. Probably psychological issues as well. He may come out worse than when he went in. And that doesn't benefit anyone.

Don't most prisoners have a mental health issues? Yes.
Saltzman parents and kids have mental health issues to. Ok. But they worked the system to avoid jail time.

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They didn't work the system. The system has no laws that provide jail time for what Saltzman did. In fact, if I'm recalling correctly, he got the maximum penalty under law for his crimes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I have mixed feelings about the sentence. His lawyer wanted 18 months and that would have kept him in the Montgomery County Detention Center, where there are much better services than in the State prisons. And since he will eventually return to our community, services would be beneficial. He's obviously got some sort of addiction problem. Probably psychological issues as well. He may come out worse than when he went in. And that doesn't benefit anyone.

Don't most prisoners have a mental health issues? Yes.
Saltzman parents and kids have mental health issues to. Ok. But they worked the system to avoid jail time.

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They didn't work the system. The system has no laws that provide jail time for what Saltzman did. In fact, if I'm recalling correctly, he got the maximum penalty under law for his crimes.

Wrong. He should have been fined for EACH under-aged drinking kid at his party. Well-connected shyster attorney. What can you expect? May he rot in hell.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The parents did not drive the car.

It's like giving the kid a deadly weapon. Mr and Mrs Saltzman watched those kids get smashed as they hosted another party, and then watched them all get in their cars to drive home. Sure, Ellis pulled the trigger, but Saltzman could have and should have just said no, and driven the kids himself. Or was he too drunk to drive, just like the kids? Saltzman was more worried about his own ass for giving those minors alcohol.

I wouldn't want to be caught dead in the same town with such lowlife.

[Anonymous]

The father who knew the kids were drinking in his house deserves jail time!

The driver of the car deserves to serve AT LEAST all four years of his sentence. The fact that he could serve only one year is so WRONG!!!!