Didn't make it to Compacted Math!

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:"It will be fine" is a nice broad generic response but I guess the question is... if selective university X looks at kids from kids from high performing Highschool Y will they look at group A (higher track) and invite these students before group B (normal track) all things considered equal (grades, scores, etc.)?

Then the question becomes, "if my DC doesn't get into a selective university, is his life doomed"? "Do I want to pressure my kid to get into a selective university?"
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"It will be fine" is a nice broad generic response but I guess the question is... if selective university X looks at kids from kids from high performing Highschool Y will they look at group A (higher track) and invite these students before group B (normal track) all things considered equal (grades, scores, etc.)?

Then the question becomes, "if my DC doesn't get into a selective university, is his life doomed"? "Do I want to pressure my kid to get into a selective university?"


That's a second question..

Will it impact a colleges descision? and Will my kid be doomed by not attending selective college?

We've already agree on the answer to the second question but that doesn't address the first.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"It will be fine" is a nice broad generic response but I guess the question is... if selective university X looks at kids from kids from high performing Highschool Y will they look at group A (higher track) and invite these students before group B (normal track) all things considered equal (grades, scores, etc.)?

Then the question becomes, "if my DC doesn't get into a selective university, is his life doomed"? "Do I want to pressure my kid to get into a selective university?"


That's a second question..

Will it impact a colleges descision? and Will my kid be doomed by not attending selective college?

We've already agree on the answer to the second question but that doesn't address the first.


If OP's answer to the first two questions is a "yes", then she can answer the 3rd, and then finally, it will determine whether she needs to panic.

1. "if my DC doesn't get into a selective university, is his life doomed"?
2. "Do I want to pressure my kid to get into a selective university?"
3. " if selective university X looks at kids from kids from high performing Highschool Y will they look at group A (higher track) and invite these students before group B (normal track) all things considered equal (grades, scores, etc.)?"
Anonymous
My son will do compacted math next year, but I probably won't send him to the local middle school for math each morning when he's in 5th grade.

Is rather have him do well in math in ms and HS than be pushed too hard and struggle.

I never took calculus--not even in college. It's not necessary.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My son will do compacted math next year, but I probably won't send him to the local middle school for math each morning when he's in 5th grade.

Is rather have him do well in math in ms and HS than be pushed too hard and struggle.

I never took calculus--not even in college. It's not necessary.


well, that all will depend on your major. For a lot of majors, it is necessary. I was a Business major a lowly rated state univ., and I had to take Calculus.

Also, from what I have heard, they are no longer sending *any* cm students to MS. All will be done in the home school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, I do not think it is a big deal.

Your DC can still finish with Calc in HS, and the SAT actually tests content covered upto Geometry and Algebra 2.

Take this golden opportunity of not being in compacted Math to get your child more Math practice (ALEKS and Beestar are good online resources).

Is there any other factor you are concerned about regarding compacted Math?


OP here, I guess what I'm concerned about is being locked in to a certain track so early on. Clearly this won't stop DC from attending college but if our cluster has a relatively high performing highschool will it hurt that she isn't on the fast track and a lot of other kids are? I'm not anticipating Ivy but I hear even University of Maryland is getting harder to get into especially if the school you attend for high school is full of high achieving students.


If you're really worried about how this affects your 3rd grader's chances of getting into college nine years from now (twice his or her life away), then you can always ask the teacher. If the teacher looks at you like you're crazy then you'll have your answer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, I do not think it is a big deal.

Your DC can still finish with Calc in HS, and the SAT actually tests content covered upto Geometry and Algebra 2.

Take this golden opportunity of not being in compacted Math to get your child more Math practice (ALEKS and Beestar are good online resources).

Is there any other factor you are concerned about regarding compacted Math?


OP here, I guess what I'm concerned about is being locked in to a certain track so early on. Clearly this won't stop DC from attending college but if our cluster has a relatively high performing highschool will it hurt that she isn't on the fast track and a lot of other kids are? I'm not anticipating Ivy but I hear even University of Maryland is getting harder to get into especially if the school you attend for high school is full of high achieving students.


If you're really worried about how this affects your 3rd grader's chances of getting into college nine years from now (twice his or her life away), then you can always ask the teacher. If the teacher looks at you like you're crazy then you'll have your answer.


3rd grade teachers are not college admissions officers so her reaction wouldn't mean much.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son will do compacted math next year, but I probably won't send him to the local middle school for math each morning when he's in 5th grade.

Is rather have him do well in math in ms and HS than be pushed too hard and struggle.

I never took calculus--not even in college. It's not necessary.


well, that all will depend on your major. For a lot of majors, it is necessary. I was a Business major a lowly rated state univ., and I had to take Calculus.

Also, from what I have heard, they are no longer sending *any* cm students to MS. All will be done in the home school.


I just talked to the principal at our school this morning, and she said the 5th grade will do math 5/6 before school at the middle school next year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"It will be fine" is a nice broad generic response but I guess the question is... if selective university X looks at kids from kids from high performing Highschool Y will they look at group A (higher track) and invite these students before group B (normal track) all things considered equal (grades, scores, etc.)?

Then the question becomes, "if my DC doesn't get into a selective university, is his life doomed"? "Do I want to pressure my kid to get into a selective university?"


That's a second question..

Will it impact a colleges descision? and Will my kid be doomed by not attending selective college?

We've already agree on the answer to the second question but that doesn't address the first.


If OP's answer to the first two questions is a "yes", then she can answer the 3rd, and then finally, it will determine whether she needs to panic.

1. "if my DC doesn't get into a selective university, is his life doomed"?
2. "Do I want to pressure my kid to get into a selective university?"
3. " if selective university X looks at kids from kids from high performing Highschool Y will they look at group A (higher track) and invite these students before group B (normal track) all things considered equal (grades, scores, etc.)?"


#2 is not an appropriate question really. I'll tell you that my parents had zero impact on the schools I wanted to go to and ultimately chose. Ever thought that the child may want as many options as they can?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son will do compacted math next year, but I probably won't send him to the local middle school for math each morning when he's in 5th grade.

Is rather have him do well in math in ms and HS than be pushed too hard and struggle.

I never took calculus--not even in college. It's not necessary.


well, that all will depend on your major. For a lot of majors, it is necessary. I was a Business major a lowly rated state univ., and I had to take Calculus.

Also, from what I have heard, they are no longer sending *any* cm students to MS. All will be done in the home school.


I just talked to the principal at our school this morning, and she said the 5th grade will do math 5/6 before school at the middle school next year.


Yep, that's what they do at our school as well.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not the OP, but how important is it to take Calc in HS?

OP I wouldn't worry for a second. The Common Core math curriculum moves way to fast and without enough practice for my taste. My kid also makes a lot of mistakes and it hasn't gotten better by grade 8. Why push kids so hard? If your DC can still stay on track why does it matter? I personally would not want my DC taking Calc junior year unless they can take college Calc senior year. This is what I did but I lived in a college town. Here that seems more complicated.


I was a statistics major in college. I had a lot of math in high school and even more in college. I took Calculus in HS. My school did not offer AP in the 1980s. So I had to take Calc 1 in college. It was GREAT having already learned that material the year before.

Even my friends who were history majors had to take Calculus. (Not the same calc that math and engineering majors took, but it was still calculus.)



Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My son will do compacted math next year, but I probably won't send him to the local middle school for math each morning when he's in 5th grade.

Is rather have him do well in math in ms and HS than be pushed too hard and struggle.

I never took calculus--not even in college. It's not necessary.



So what is he going to do for math in 5th grade?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"It will be fine" is a nice broad generic response but I guess the question is... if selective university X looks at kids from kids from high performing Highschool Y will they look at group A (higher track) and invite these students before group B (normal track) all things considered equal (grades, scores, etc.)?

Then the question becomes, "if my DC doesn't get into a selective university, is his life doomed"? "Do I want to pressure my kid to get into a selective university?"


That's a second question..

Will it impact a colleges descision? and Will my kid be doomed by not attending selective college?

We've already agree on the answer to the second question but that doesn't address the first.


If OP's answer to the first two questions is a "yes", then she can answer the 3rd, and then finally, it will determine whether she needs to panic.

1. "if my DC doesn't get into a selective university, is his life doomed"?
2. "Do I want to pressure my kid to get into a selective university?"
3. " if selective university X looks at kids from kids from high performing Highschool Y will they look at group A (higher track) and invite these students before group B (normal track) all things considered equal (grades, scores, etc.)?"


#2 is not an appropriate question really. I'll tell you that my parents had zero impact on the schools I wanted to go to and ultimately chose. Ever thought that the child may want as many options as they can?

Oh, please, you really think that's the reason a parent asks such a question.. because the kid might want to go to a selective university?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son will do compacted math next year, but I probably won't send him to the local middle school for math each morning when he's in 5th grade.

Is rather have him do well in math in ms and HS than be pushed too hard and struggle.

I never took calculus--not even in college. It's not necessary.


well, that all will depend on your major. For a lot of majors, it is necessary. I was a Business major a lowly rated state univ., and I had to take Calculus.

Also, from what I have heard, they are no longer sending *any* cm students to MS. All will be done in the home school.


I just talked to the principal at our school this morning, and she said the 5th grade will do math 5/6 before school at the middle school next year.

What? I thought they were stopping all busing for CM to MS starting from next year, or is it just applicable for 4th graders? I'm confused now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My son will do compacted math next year, but I probably won't send him to the local middle school for math each morning when he's in 5th grade.

Is rather have him do well in math in ms and HS than be pushed too hard and struggle.

I never took calculus--not even in college. It's not necessary.



Huh. All of the college students out there who have been told that they can't graduate without passing calculus must have been given erroneous information. It's going to be quite the endeavor changing all those course catalogs before more students are tricked into taking unnecessary courses.
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