Has anyone left an immersion school for a tradtional school?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:We have former MV, Stokes, and DCPS bilingual students at our non-language charter. We also have former students of ours that are now at those schools. It happens all the time, constant merry-go-round.


+1. It seems Yu Ying and Lamb are is the only schools students don't leave, even wotp elementary school students come to our charter. And we've lost students to the major players too. Round and round the merry go round.


Families do leave YY and Lamb, just not in the numbers you see at the other immersion charters. We switched from YY to a MoCo immersion program in Rockville, where we're happier. We know other families who switched to Sidwell for their strong Chinese program. We like being on track for very strong instruction in Chinese, as well as English, math etc., in MS and HS, all the way to small Higher Level International Baccalaureate 11th-12th grade Mandarin classes at Richard Montgomery HS or Bethesda Chevy Chase.





Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know of families who've left two different DCI feeders for Shepherd. They seem happy, and active in the school.


Why would you do that? I guess if you were REALLY unhappy at a school... Strikes me as a poor choice.


Deal/Wilson vs DCI (still unproven, in temporary space).



Meh. DCI has a permanent space under construction, an actual IB Diploma, and the ability to avoid the hooligans who ride the metro to Deal/Wilson.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know of families who've left two different DCI feeders for Shepherd. They seem happy, and active in the school.


Why would you do that? I guess if you were REALLY unhappy at a school... Strikes me as a poor choice.


Deal/Wilson vs DCI (still unproven, in temporary space).



Meh. DCI has a permanent space under construction, an actual IB Diploma, and the ability to avoid the hooligans who ride the metro to Deal/Wilson.


Do they have magical anti-hooligan force field?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have former MV, Stokes, and DCPS bilingual students at our non-language charter. We also have former students of ours that are now at those schools. It happens all the time, constant merry-go-round.


+1. It seems Yu Ying and Lamb are is the only schools students don't leave, even wotp elementary school students come to our charter. And we've lost students to the major players too. Round and round the merry go round.


Families do leave YY and Lamb, just not in the numbers you see at the other immersion charters. We switched from YY to a MoCo immersion program in Rockville, where we're happier. We know other families who switched to Sidwell for their strong Chinese program. We like being on track for very strong instruction in Chinese, as well as English, math etc., in MS and HS, all the way to small Higher Level International Baccalaureate 11th-12th grade Mandarin classes at Richard Montgomery HS or Bethesda Chevy Chase.

This is true. Very few families leave YY. The families I know either left for job relocation or their kid got into a big 3 private (with a full ride).

Don't know anyone who left for Rockville but as long you are happier....





Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know of families who've left two different DCI feeders for Shepherd. They seem happy, and active in the school.


Why would you do that? I guess if you were REALLY unhappy at a school... Strikes me as a poor choice.


Why do you think someone would be unhappy at Shepherd if they don't like their current school? Are you one of those language immersion fanatics?



NP, but if Shepherd were inherently desirable, it should have more IB students. It seems to be more of a haven for refugees like Hardy.


Not at all. Most of my Shepherd neighbors are at Big 3 privates or Lowell or private Jewish schools (some at language charters). Not an indictment of the quality of Shepherd. They would be at those schools no matter where they lived. Even if it is a haven (a la Hardy) what's wrong with that? Doesn't make it a bad school because people OOB desire the vacant spots left by private going families.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know of families who've left two different DCI feeders for Shepherd. They seem happy, and active in the school.


Why would you do that? I guess if you were REALLY unhappy at a school... Strikes me as a poor choice.


Deal/Wilson vs DCI (still unproven, in temporary space).



Meh. DCI has a permanent space under construction, an actual IB Diploma, and the ability to avoid the hooligans who ride the metro to Deal/Wilson.


1. "Meh"?? Are you 12?
2. I know a parent of a DCI student (last year) and she had first-hand experience with discipline problems among DCI students. It's no magical unicorn land of happiness and awesome behavior.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have former MV, Stokes, and DCPS bilingual students at our non-language charter. We also have former students of ours that are now at those schools. It happens all the time, constant merry-go-round.


+1. It seems Yu Ying and Lamb are is the only schools students don't leave, even wotp elementary school students come to our charter. And we've lost students to the major players too. Round and round the merry go round.


Families do leave YY and Lamb, just not in the numbers you see at the other immersion charters. We switched from YY to a MoCo immersion program in Rockville, where we're happier. We know other families who switched to Sidwell for their strong Chinese program. We like being on track for very strong instruction in Chinese, as well as English, math etc., in MS and HS, all the way to small Higher Level International Baccalaureate 11th-12th grade Mandarin classes at Richard Montgomery HS or Bethesda Chevy Chase.





Was it hard to get into College Gardens and how does it compare? We're at LAMB in the lower grades and will be moving to either Maryland or Virginia and hopefully to an immersion. LAMB is not the Shangrila people like to perpetrate on here. The program and teachers are amazing, however, the peer group leaves a lot to be desired. I can't experiment on my son and hope it works out, so away we go.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know of families who've left two different DCI feeders for Shepherd. They seem happy, and active in the school.


Why would you do that? I guess if you were REALLY unhappy at a school... Strikes me as a poor choice.


Deal/Wilson vs DCI (still unproven, in temporary space).



Meh. DCI has a permanent space under construction, an actual IB Diploma, and the ability to avoid the hooligans who ride the metro to Deal/Wilson.


DCI has it's share of hooligans. One attempted to bully my son at school. Until he realized that my son was willing and able to defend himself. Then he backed off like bullies tend to do.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have former MV, Stokes, and DCPS bilingual students at our non-language charter. We also have former students of ours that are now at those schools. It happens all the time, constant merry-go-round.


+1. It seems Yu Ying and Lamb are is the only schools students don't leave, even wotp elementary school students come to our charter. And we've lost students to the major players too. Round and round the merry go round.


Families do leave YY and Lamb, just not in the numbers you see at the other immersion charters. We switched from YY to a MoCo immersion program in Rockville, where we're happier. We know other families who switched to Sidwell for their strong Chinese program. We like being on track for very strong instruction in Chinese, as well as English, math etc., in MS and HS, all the way to small Higher Level International Baccalaureate 11th-12th grade Mandarin classes at Richard Montgomery HS or Bethesda Chevy Chase.





Was it hard to get into College Gardens and how does it compare? We're at LAMB in the lower grades and will be moving to either Maryland or Virginia and hopefully to an immersion. LAMB is not the Shangrila people like to perpetrate on here. The program and teachers are amazing, however, the peer group leaves a lot to be desired. I can't experiment on my son and hope it works out, so away we go.


I doubt this is a lamb parent only because their peer group would be the same one since PK4, right? This makes no sense to me. It reminds me of my friend who would bash mundo verse on here to increase the chances her kids would get in. Maybe if she persuaded one kid not to list MV she'd improve her kids' chances by a little bit.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know of families who've left two different DCI feeders for Shepherd. They seem happy, and active in the school.


Why would you do that? I guess if you were REALLY unhappy at a school... Strikes me as a poor choice.


Why do you think someone would be unhappy at Shepherd if they don't like their current school? Are you one of those language immersion fanatics?



NP, but if Shepherd were inherently desirable, it should have more IB students. It seems to be more of a haven for refugees like Hardy.


Not at all. Most of my Shepherd neighbors are at Big 3 privates or Lowell or private Jewish schools (some at language charters). Not an indictment of the quality of Shepherd. They would be at those schools no matter where they lived. Even if it is a haven (a la Hardy) what's wrong with that? Doesn't make it a bad school because people OOB desire the vacant spots left by private going families.



Yet, the Mann and Key catchment areas are at least as wealthy as Shepherd, and they attend their neighborhood ES. Why the difference?
Anonymous
Let's not look at objective data on school performance. Let's follow others like lemmings.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know of families who've left two different DCI feeders for Shepherd. They seem happy, and active in the school.


Why would you do that? I guess if you were REALLY unhappy at a school... Strikes me as a poor choice.


Deal/Wilson vs DCI (still unproven, in temporary space).



Meh. DCI has a permanent space under construction, an actual IB Diploma, and the ability to avoid the hooligans who ride the metro to Deal/Wilson.


1. "Meh"?? Are you 12?[b]
2. I know a parent of a DCI student (last year) and she had first-hand experience with discipline problems among DCI students. It's no magical unicorn land of happiness and awesome behavior.



No, get with it:

https://meh.com/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Let's not look at objective data on school performance. Let's follow others like lemmings.



? KIPP has objectively high school performance data. That doesn't mean it's right for everyone.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know of families who've left two different DCI feeders for Shepherd. They seem happy, and active in the school.


Why would you do that? I guess if you were REALLY unhappy at a school... Strikes me as a poor choice.


Why do you think someone would be unhappy at Shepherd if they don't like their current school? Are you one of those language immersion fanatics?



NP, but if Shepherd were inherently desirable, it should have more IB students. It seems to be more of a haven for refugees like Hardy.


Not at all. Most of my Shepherd neighbors are at Big 3 privates or Lowell or private Jewish schools (some at language charters). Not an indictment of the quality of Shepherd. They would be at those schools no matter where they lived. Even if it is a haven (a la Hardy) what's wrong with that? Doesn't make it a bad school because people OOB desire the vacant spots left by private going families.



Yet, the Mann and Key catchment areas are at least as wealthy as Shepherd, and they attend their neighborhood ES. Why the difference?


It's not about wealth so much as 1) Jewish population (Mann and Key do not have same %) and 2) historical wealthy black SP residents that have never trusted or had faith in DCPS and have always sent their kids to private. If you don't get it's that's fine but no need to continue the argument as SP has always been unique in this way. More and more families with young kids are moving into the neighborhood (only about 10-15 homes a year sell in the small neighborhood). That coupled with the new PK3 program, this is steadily changing. Again, it's not a worrisome thing for me or my neighbors as we welcome the devoted OOB families that come to Shepherd.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know of families who've left two different DCI feeders for Shepherd. They seem happy, and active in the school.


Why would you do that? I guess if you were REALLY unhappy at a school... Strikes me as a poor choice.


Why do you think someone would be unhappy at Shepherd if they don't like their current school? Are you one of those language immersion fanatics?



NP, but if Shepherd were inherently desirable, it should have more IB students. It seems to be more of a haven for refugees like Hardy.


Sigh. We've been over and over this but I'll explain again, slowly for you:

1. Many of the children who live in Sheperd Park are Jewish children whose Jewish parents chose that neighborhood so their families could walk to synagogue. They send their children to private Jewish schools like JPDS and they were never, ever going to choose a public school, Sheperd, YY, or otherwise.

2. A lot of homeownvers in SP are long-time, older owners who do not have small children. Census stats bear this out. When they don't have kids in the local school, that frees up more spots for OOB kids. Unlike, say, AU Park and CCDC, where most households have kids < age of 18
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