Does AAP center accept ADHD kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DS (6th grade) has a 504 Plan and an IEP for ADHD (OHI) and he is doing well in the AAP Center school. We provided the psychologist's report (including WISC-IV testing) as parent supplemental information.

My DS did not have to sit through testing "for hours on end" (as described by PP 00:15) and his ADHD is "complicated" and requires accommodations.

I think each child is unique and a blanket "AAP and IEP don't mix" statement is erroneous.

You may wish to read about Twice Exceptional students. There is one article on the FCPS AAP website and I am sure an internet search would reveal more resources.

http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/column/columntwicelearners.shtml

I realize this is derailing the thread, but was your son earning poor grades prior to getting his IEP. My daughter is ADHD also, but the principal says that since she makes A's & B's she won't qualify for a 504 or IEP.

This is incorrect. Go to wrightslaw.com to bone up on the law. Excellent resource for how to request a 504 or IEP.

+1

See Is Child with Passing Grades Eligible for Special Ed Under IDEA?:
http://www.wrightslaw.com/blog/is-child-with-passing-grades-eligible-for-special-ed-under-idea/

[Anonymous]

my situation is little different, being an immigrant thought, ADHD give disqualifies.
I know my son has all symptoms, from school teachers complained about attention problems but no one told me that we should get diagnosed and it is not a problem.
yesterday we found out with psychologist after the WISC, that he has ADHD and he will be accommodated.
Now to diagnose there are so many appointments and procedure. Is there any way that we can put the info of ADHD problem in the appeal letter? They accept only final diagnosis of ADHD. We dont have time. Do base school also have accommodation for ADHD kids? He got 127.
thank you all for the info.
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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:my situation is little different, being an immigrant thought, ADHD give disqualifies.
I know my son has all symptoms, from school teachers complained about attention problems but no one told me that we should get diagnosed and it is not a problem.
yesterday we found out with psychologist after the WISC, that he has ADHD and he will be accommodated.
Now to diagnose there are so many appointments and procedure. Is there any way that we can put the info of ADHD problem in the appeal letter? They accept only final diagnosis of ADHD. We dont have time. Do base school also have accommodation for ADHD kids? He got 127.
thank you all for the info.

Yes. You will want to include the new WISC scores and report as part of your appeal. Also include a letter by you, detailing the new ADHD finding, explaining you are now setting up appointments re this new diagnosis. You may also want to reach out to the AART and the school counselor at your school so you can start the process for 504 accommodations.

Good luck!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on the severity. Dr. Horn, the FCPs AAP program coordinator, has stated that "AAP and IEP don't mix" in a session on twice exceptional children at a FCPS-organized conference on special needs. That should tell you something about the attitudes.

She will have to take a battery of tests, both IQ and academics. If she focuses enough to do well, and if she has good teacher recommendations, than she might make it in. I would not volunteer the information if I were you, during the screening process.

Problem is, the program is actually well designed to hold the interest of kids with ADHD, but the admission process typically screens them out. Few ADHD kids can sit through the test, with their focus unbroken, for hours on end. Those kids who make it, do so usually because of a teacher who saw through their fog and cared enough to recommend them. And their ADHD was not complicated enough to interfere with either testing, or to require accommodations.

Think this through -- you probably have a deadline to re-enroll at your school, but make sure she can get in first.

That's a discrimination law suit ready to happen. Disgusting attitude.

FCPS counts on individual parents not suing because of the cost and hassle involved.
Class action suit anyone? That may get some attention to the plight of 2E kids in FCPS AAP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on the severity. Dr. Horn, the FCPs AAP program coordinator, has stated that "AAP and IEP don't mix" in a session on twice exceptional children at a FCPS-organized conference on special needs. That should tell you something about the attitudes.

She will have to take a battery of tests, both IQ and academics. If she focuses enough to do well, and if she has good teacher recommendations, than she might make it in. I would not volunteer the information if I were you, during the screening process.

Problem is, the program is actually well designed to hold the interest of kids with ADHD, but the admission process typically screens them out. Few ADHD kids can sit through the test, with their focus unbroken, for hours on end. Those kids who make it, do so usually because of a teacher who saw through their fog and cared enough to recommend them. And their ADHD was not complicated enough to interfere with either testing, or to require accommodations.

Think this through -- you probably have a deadline to re-enroll at your school, but make sure she can get in first.

That's a discrimination law suit ready to happen. Disgusting attitude.

FCPS counts on individual parents not suing because of the cost and hassle involved.
Class action suit anyone? That may get some attention to the plight of 2E kids in FCPS AAP.

I didn't know that there was a "plight." My 2e kids are getting excellent supports at Centers. Better than the supports at the base school, probably because the Center administrators and teachers understand 2e. No issues getting 504s for ADHD/gifted, or in enforcing them. But this is FCPS, so YMMV.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:my situation is little different, being an immigrant thought, ADHD give disqualifies.
I know my son has all symptoms, from school teachers complained about attention problems but no one told me that we should get diagnosed and it is not a problem.
yesterday we found out with psychologist after the WISC, that he has ADHD and he will be accommodated.
Now to diagnose there are so many appointments and procedure. Is there any way that we can put the info of ADHD problem in the appeal letter? They accept only final diagnosis of ADHD. We dont have time. Do base school also have accommodation for ADHD kids? He got 127.
thank you all for the info.
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You can't get an ADHD diagnoses based off a WISC alone. I think you mean there is suspicion of ADHD and you will do further testing to see if it is ADHD. You do not have a diagnosis. You probably have a Dr. saying due to the breakdown of the scores (processing may be very low compared to FSIQ) they suspect ADHD and you need to do further testing. You can say that in a letter but I'm not sure how far it gets you. My DS was suspected of ADHD based on WISC. Further testing revealed he did not have ADHD. He did have perfectionism though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Depends on the severity. Dr. Horn, the FCPs AAP program coordinator, has stated that "AAP and IEP don't mix" in a session on twice exceptional children at a FCPS-organized conference on special needs. That should tell you something about the attitudes.

She will have to take a battery of tests, both IQ and academics. If she focuses enough to do well, and if she has good teacher recommendations, than she might make it in. I would not volunteer the information if I were you, during the screening process.

Problem is, the program is actually well designed to hold the interest of kids with ADHD, but the admission process typically screens them out. Few ADHD kids can sit through the test, with their focus unbroken, for hours on end. Those kids who make it, do so usually because of a teacher who saw through their fog and cared enough to recommend them. And their ADHD was not complicated enough to interfere with either testing, or to require accommodations.

Think this through -- you probably have a deadline to re-enroll at your school, but make sure she can get in first.

This has not been my experience. There are many kids in AAP that have ADHD. Dr. Horn can say whatever she wants to, but if a child scores high enough and is found eligible, by law, they are entitled to the services. The CogAT is given over a period of three days, so it's not impossible for an ADHD kid to sit through. Also, because the WISC is an individual test, that sometimes is helpful to kids who are easily distracted. OP, have your child do the WISC, and see what the results are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on the severity. Dr. Horn, the FCPs AAP program coordinator, has stated that "AAP and IEP don't mix" in a session on twice exceptional children at a FCPS-organized conference on special needs. That should tell you something about the attitudes.

She will have to take a battery of tests, both IQ and academics. If she focuses enough to do well, and if she has good teacher recommendations, than she might make it in. I would not volunteer the information if I were you, during the screening process.

Problem is, the program is actually well designed to hold the interest of kids with ADHD, but the admission process typically screens them out. Few ADHD kids can sit through the test, with their focus unbroken, for hours on end. Those kids who make it, do so usually because of a teacher who saw through their fog and cared enough to recommend them. And their ADHD was not complicated enough to interfere with either testing, or to require accommodations.

Think this through -- you probably have a deadline to re-enroll at your school, but make sure she can get in first.

This has not been my experience. There are many kids in AAP that have ADHD. Dr. Horn can say whatever she wants to, but if a child scores high enough and is found eligible, by law, they are entitled to the services. The CogAT is given over a period of three days, so it's not impossible for an ADHD kid to sit through. Also, because the WISC is an individual test, that sometimes is helpful to kids who are easily distracted. OP, have your child do the WISC, and see what the results are.

+1000

Great post!

(In addition, I seriously doubt Dr. Horn said what was posted by the PP.)