I expect to be offered a job in the next two weeks in a low cost of living area (at my DC salary)

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Take the job, get over your hang ups about religion and send your daughter to a private school.


I think you people are naive about just how religious Florida is, this is not a local Catholic school like HTS in DC. These folks take it to another level; my FB feed is filled with #blessed and all sorts of Praise the Lord posts, constantly, not to mention Trump supporters etc.

This won't just be a prayer at the start of school and a priest handing out diplomas, whole different level.

And home schooling? Are you competent to train AP level physics with lab requirement??


Again, Florida is a large state. Do you think of religion when you think of Miami?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Take the job, get over your hang ups about religion and send your daughter to a private school.


I think you people are naive about just how religious Florida is, this is not a local Catholic school like HTS in DC. These folks take it to another level; my FB feed is filled with #blessed and all sorts of Praise the Lord posts, constantly, not to mention Trump supporters etc.

This won't just be a prayer at the start of school and a priest handing out diplomas, whole different level.

And home schooling? Are you competent to train AP level physics with lab requirement??


Again, Florida is a large state. Do you think of religion when you think of Miami?


OP is not considering Miami, it's obvious. And in someways Miami is worst, b/c it is a tale of two cities. A mile from the coast is nice neighborhoods which cost as much or more than DC. And then there is everything else which gritty and barely getting by. Not a lower COL location, and most private schools will be strongly Catholic b/c of cuban influence.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I grew up in Florida, graduated from a Florida high school, and went the the University of Florida (now considered public Ivy). I got a terrific education, and graduated with little debt. I got a job right out of school, as did most of my friends, in the early 80s. My friends who have kids in college now or just through were able to put their kids through college with little to no debt because of the Florida prepaid tuition and the scholarships public school kids get in Florida. These kids are graduating as lawyers, engineers, doctors, accountants -- just like their parents 35 years ago.

I loved growing up in Florida. It's a wonderful, laid-back lifestyle. You can achieve without being the uber-type A you seem to need to be in the Northeast.



I am PP from Florida, and yes I agree it is a big state but it way way undervalues education across the board. Private is necessary if you want kids to leave the state.

But if you are happy with kids going native, they can work at Kennedy or McDill as engineers, entertainment lawyers or accounts at Disney, or find some niche in Miami in trade or tourism. But if their kid has aspirations for something more than finding a job and low cost of living in Florida, then they are definitely limiting their DD option. Check out 'sunshine tax'.

This is the first time I have ever hear UF as a public Ivy. I really don't see it comparing to Ann Arbor, UNC, or or Penn State. But Florida scholars can be great, though I heard it was oversubscribed?


http://www.infusionatinnovationsquare.com/uf-just-as-great-as-ivy-league.asp
Gainesville One of Four Schools "Just As Great as Ivy League Schools"
6, August 2013

Policymic, a site aimed at offering advice to millenials and engaging them in political issues, has included the University of Florida in its recent ranking of four schools that are "just as great as Ivy League schools." With a freshman retention rate of over 96%, Policymic stated that the University of Florida has an ideal internal support system for students. With about 50% of classes at the University having less than 20 students, professors and assistants are able to provide personal mentoring to individual students.


Other Notable UF Rankings and Awards:

No. 17 in U.S. News & World Report “Top Public Universities” (August 2012)
No. 3 in Kiplinger’s “Best Values in Public Colleges” (2013)
No. 3 in the Fiske Guide to Colleges list of Best Buys Among Publics (2014)
No. 15 on the Forbes list of best public universities (2013)
Job recruiters ranked UF ninth on the list of places where corporations prefer to recruit new employees.
No. 2 on SmartMoney magazine’s list of universities whose graduates get the highest salary return for their tuition dollars (2012)
21st in the National Universities category of the 2012 Washington Monthly magazine College Rankings
#1 University for transferring technology to the marketplace (Milkin Institute)

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I grew up in Florida, graduated from a Florida high school, and went the the University of Florida (now considered public Ivy). I got a terrific education, and graduated with little debt. I got a job right out of school, as did most of my friends, in the early 80s. My friends who have kids in college now or just through were able to put their kids through college with little to no debt because of the Florida prepaid tuition and the scholarships public school kids get in Florida. These kids are graduating as lawyers, engineers, doctors, accountants -- just like their parents 35 years ago.

I loved growing up in Florida. It's a wonderful, laid-back lifestyle. You can achieve without being the uber-type A you seem to need to be in the Northeast.



I am PP from Florida, and yes I agree it is a big state but it way way undervalues education across the board. Private is necessary if you want kids to leave the state.

But if you are happy with kids going native, they can work at Kennedy or McDill as engineers, entertainment lawyers or accounts at Disney, or find some niche in Miami in trade or tourism. But if their kid has aspirations for something more than finding a job and low cost of living in Florida, then they are definitely limiting their DD option. Check out 'sunshine tax'.

This is the first time I have ever hear UF as a public Ivy. I really don't see it comparing to Ann Arbor, UNC, or or Penn State. But Florida scholars can be great, though I heard it was oversubscribed?


http://www.infusionatinnovationsquare.com/uf-just-as-great-as-ivy-league.asp
Gainesville One of Four Schools "Just As Great as Ivy League Schools"
6, August 2013

Policymic, a site aimed at offering advice to millenials and engaging them in political issues, has included the University of Florida in its recent ranking of four schools that are "just as great as Ivy League schools." With a freshman retention rate of over 96%, Policymic stated that the University of Florida has an ideal internal support system for students. With about 50% of classes at the University having less than 20 students, professors and assistants are able to provide personal mentoring to individual students.


Other Notable UF Rankings and Awards:

No. 17 in U.S. News & World Report “Top Public Universities” (August 2012)
No. 3 in Kiplinger’s “Best Values in Public Colleges” (2013)
No. 3 in the Fiske Guide to Colleges list of Best Buys Among Publics (2014)
No. 15 on the Forbes list of best public universities (2013)
Job recruiters ranked UF ninth on the list of places where corporations prefer to recruit new employees.
No. 2 on SmartMoney magazine’s list of universities whose graduates get the highest salary return for their tuition dollars (2012)
21st in the National Universities category of the 2012 Washington Monthly magazine College Rankings
#1 University for transferring technology to the marketplace (Milkin Institute)



It is a fine regional public university; there are 8 Ivy League schools, so the public school Ivy list is at least 17?

But people who go to UF tend to stay in Florida, maybe go to Georgia, and OP should be aware of the trend that the state offers a lot less mobility to students than coming from major metropolitan area with good public schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I grew up in Florida, graduated from a Florida high school, and went the the University of Florida (now considered public Ivy). I got a terrific education, and graduated with little debt. I got a job right out of school, as did most of my friends, in the early 80s. My friends who have kids in college now or just through were able to put their kids through college with little to no debt because of the Florida prepaid tuition and the scholarships public school kids get in Florida. These kids are graduating as lawyers, engineers, doctors, accountants -- just like their parents 35 years ago.

I loved growing up in Florida. It's a wonderful, laid-back lifestyle. You can achieve without being the uber-type A you seem to need to be in the Northeast.



I am PP from Florida, and yes I agree it is a big state but it way way undervalues education across the board. Private is necessary if you want kids to leave the state.

But if you are happy with kids going native, they can work at Kennedy or McDill as engineers, entertainment lawyers or accounts at Disney, or find some niche in Miami in trade or tourism. But if their kid has aspirations for something more than finding a job and low cost of living in Florida, then they are definitely limiting their DD option. Check out 'sunshine tax'.

This is the first time I have ever hear UF as a public Ivy. I really don't see it comparing to Ann Arbor, UNC, or or Penn State. But Florida scholars can be great, though I heard it was oversubscribed?




http://www.infusionatinnovationsquare.com/uf-just-as-great-as-ivy-league.asp
Gainesville One of Four Schools "Just As Great as Ivy League Schools"
6, August 2013

Policymic, a site aimed at offering advice to millenials and engaging them in political issues, has included the University of Florida in its recent ranking of four schools that are "just as great as Ivy League schools." With a freshman retention rate of over 96%, Policymic stated that the University of Florida has an ideal internal support system for students. With about 50% of classes at the University having less than 20 students, professors and assistants are able to provide personal mentoring to individual students.


Other Notable UF Rankings and Awards:

No. 17 in U.S. News & World Report “Top Public Universities” (August 2012)
No. 3 in Kiplinger’s “Best Values in Public Colleges” (2013)
No. 3 in the Fiske Guide to Colleges list of Best Buys Among Publics (2014)
No. 15 on the Forbes list of best public universities (2013)
Job recruiters ranked UF ninth on the list of places where corporations prefer to recruit new employees.
No. 2 on SmartMoney magazine’s list of universities whose graduates get the highest salary return for their tuition dollars (2012)
21st in the National Universities category of the 2012 Washington Monthly magazine College Rankings
#1 University for transferring technology to the marketplace (Milkin Institute)



It is a fine regional public university; there are 8 Ivy League schools, so the public school Ivy list is at least 17?

But people who go to UF tend to stay in Florida, maybe go to Georgia, and OP should be aware of the trend that the state offers a lot less mobility to students than coming from major metropolitan area with good public schools.


Why is the Gold Standard the Northeast? Plenty of people live happy, fulfilling lives in the South and Midwest.

Not everyone wants into the ratrace of 2 hour commutes for a decent house, or being crammed in a tiny shitbox in the city.

The girl in the OP is a B student who isn't a fan of competition. She's not likely going to be a good fit for the Ivy League.



Anonymous
She is an A and B student. She gets As in everything except math. She will not be going to an Ivy. If we stay here, she would probably go to VA Tech
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Florida does have awful publics, but online home school is popular there. And you may have to bite the bullet and go with a religious private. What is more important to you: a purely secular but crappy education or a solid education that will include some religious instruction which your DD at 12/13 is old enough to ignore if your family is atheist or not of that faith?



Hahaha, a 12 or 13 year old choosing to follow her parents rather than all her friends? Do you have teens?


I've raised one to adulthood and I teach MS. The atheist kids don't become believers at age 12 because their friends are into religion.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A while ago, when things were going porely at my current job (not enough hours, etc.), An opertunity came from the blue..A SETA contract was being recompeted. My company was not bidding on the SETA program. The companies looking to unseat the incumbant wanted to use my resume; I allowed both to do so (with contingent offers); in addition, one company paid me to help on the proposal. The contract was originally awarded to in the incumbant, but the award was challenged. The challenge was upheald, and now the incumbant is disqualified.

Since there were three companies bidding, and only two remain (the two that used my resume), I expect to get an offer soon. Financially, it will be a huge boon for us -- we live in a tear town house we bought in the 90's, and have 500K of equity. Selling the house will allow me to pay off every debt, and have money put aside for my daughter's college. The work is right up my ally, should be interesting, and I know the customer quite well.

On the down side, the schools are nowhere near as good. And the state has a history of underfunding education. In addition, my unstable job is not stable. But, the thought of no more winters on my scar ridden body is intriguing.

My wife will not talk about it until the job is in hand; my daughter does not want to move.


Jesus, this was painful to read. I can only imagine what kind of company finds you desirable with a complete lack of understanding of basic grammar and spelling.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A while ago, when things were going porely at my current job (not enough hours, etc.), An opertunity came from the blue..A SETA contract was being recompeted. My company was not bidding on the SETA program. The companies looking to unseat the incumbant wanted to use my resume; I allowed both to do so (with contingent offers); in addition, one company paid me to help on the proposal. The contract was originally awarded to in the incumbant, but the award was challenged. The challenge was upheald, and now the incumbant is disqualified.

Since there were three companies bidding, and only two remain (the two that used my resume), I expect to get an offer soon. Financially, it will be a huge boon for us -- we live in a tear town house we bought in the 90's, and have 500K of equity. Selling the house will allow me to pay off every debt, and have money put aside for my daughter's college. The work is right up my ally, should be interesting, and I know the customer quite well.

On the down side, the schools are nowhere near as good. And the state has a history of underfunding education. In addition, my unstable job is not stable. But, the thought of no more winters on my scar ridden body is intriguing.

My wife will not talk about it until the job is in hand; my daughter does not want to move.


Jesus, this was painful to read. I can only imagine what kind of company finds you desirable with a complete lack of understanding of basic grammar and spelling.


If this wasn't an anonymous board and I had the ability to know who you and OP really are, I would hire OP in an instant over you. There was no need for this. If you're a decent person, you'll feel some shame and apologize.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A while ago, when things were going porely at my current job (not enough hours, etc.), An opertunity came from the blue..A SETA contract was being recompeted. My company was not bidding on the SETA program. The companies looking to unseat the incumbant wanted to use my resume; I allowed both to do so (with contingent offers); in addition, one company paid me to help on the proposal. The contract was originally awarded to in the incumbant, but the award was challenged. The challenge was upheald, and now the incumbant is disqualified.

Since there were three companies bidding, and only two remain (the two that used my resume), I expect to get an offer soon. Financially, it will be a huge boon for us -- we live in a tear town house we bought in the 90's, and have 500K of equity. Selling the house will allow me to pay off every debt, and have money put aside for my daughter's college. The work is right up my ally, should be interesting, and I know the customer quite well.

On the down side, the schools are nowhere near as good. And the state has a history of underfunding education. In addition, my unstable job is not stable. But, the thought of no more winters on my scar ridden body is intriguing.

My wife will not talk about it until the job is in hand; my daughter does not want to move.


Jesus, this was painful to read. I can only imagine what kind of company finds you desirable with a complete lack of understanding of basic grammar and spelling.


If this wasn't an anonymous board and I had the ability to know who you and OP really are, I would hire OP in an instant over you. There was no need for this. If you're a decent person, you'll feel some shame and apologize.

You missed "incumbent"
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I grew up in Florida, graduated from a Florida high school, and went the the University of Florida (now considered public Ivy). I got a terrific education, and graduated with little debt. I got a job right out of school, as did most of my friends, in the early 80s. My friends who have kids in college now or just through were able to put their kids through college with little to no debt because of the Florida prepaid tuition and the scholarships public school kids get in Florida. These kids are graduating as lawyers, engineers, doctors, accountants -- just like their parents 35 years ago.

I loved growing up in Florida. It's a wonderful, laid-back lifestyle. You can achieve without being the uber-type A you seem to need to be in the Northeast.



I am PP from Florida, and yes I agree it is a big state but it way way undervalues education across the board. Private is necessary if you want kids to leave the state.

But if you are happy with kids going native, they can work at Kennedy or McDill as engineers, entertainment lawyers or accounts at Disney, or find some niche in Miami in trade or tourism. But if their kid has aspirations for something more than finding a job and low cost of living in Florida, then they are definitely limiting their DD option. Check out 'sunshine tax'.

This is the first time I have ever hear UF as a public Ivy. I really don't see it comparing to Ann Arbor, UNC, or or Penn State. But Florida scholars can be great, though I heard it was oversubscribed?




http://www.infusionatinnovationsquare.com/uf-just-as-great-as-ivy-league.asp
Gainesville One of Four Schools "Just As Great as Ivy League Schools"
6, August 2013

Policymic, a site aimed at offering advice to millenials and engaging them in political issues, has included the University of Florida in its recent ranking of four schools that are "just as great as Ivy League schools." With a freshman retention rate of over 96%, Policymic stated that the University of Florida has an ideal internal support system for students. With about 50% of classes at the University having less than 20 students, professors and assistants are able to provide personal mentoring to individual students.


Other Notable UF Rankings and Awards:

No. 17 in U.S. News & World Report “Top Public Universities” (August 2012)
No. 3 in Kiplinger’s “Best Values in Public Colleges” (2013)
No. 3 in the Fiske Guide to Colleges list of Best Buys Among Publics (2014)
No. 15 on the Forbes list of best public universities (2013)
Job recruiters ranked UF ninth on the list of places where corporations prefer to recruit new employees.
No. 2 on SmartMoney magazine’s list of universities whose graduates get the highest salary return for their tuition dollars (2012)
21st in the National Universities category of the 2012 Washington Monthly magazine College Rankings
#1 University for transferring technology to the marketplace (Milkin Institute)



It is a fine regional public university; there are 8 Ivy League schools, so the public school Ivy list is at least 17?

But people who go to UF tend to stay in Florida, maybe go to Georgia, and OP should be aware of the trend that the state offers a lot less mobility to students than coming from major metropolitan area with good public schools.


Why is the Gold Standard the Northeast? Plenty of people live happy, fulfilling lives in the South and Midwest.

Not everyone wants into the ratrace of 2 hour commutes for a decent house, or being crammed in a tiny shitbox in the city.

The girl in the OP is a B student who isn't a fan of competition. She's not likely going to be a good fit for the Ivy League.





Hah, yes but income disparity is rising (see the thread about upper middle class parents trying to make sure their kids are on the rising boat). When automation and software eats another 50% of the labor market, these middling towns in South and Midwest will suffer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A while ago, when things were going porely at my current job (not enough hours, etc.), An opertunity came from the blue..A SETA contract was being recompeted. My company was not bidding on the SETA program. The companies looking to unseat the incumbant wanted to use my resume; I allowed both to do so (with contingent offers); in addition, one company paid me to help on the proposal. The contract was originally awarded to in the incumbant, but the award was challenged. The challenge was upheald, and now the incumbant is disqualified.

Since there were three companies bidding, and only two remain (the two that used my resume), I expect to get an offer soon. Financially, it will be a huge boon for us -- we live in a tear town house we bought in the 90's, and have 500K of equity. Selling the house will allow me to pay off every debt, and have money put aside for my daughter's college. The work is right up my ally, should be interesting, and I know the customer quite well.

On the down side, the schools are nowhere near as good. And the state has a history of underfunding education. In addition, my unstable job is not stable. But, the thought of no more winters on my scar ridden body is intriguing.
I'm
My wife will not talk about it until the job is in hand; my daughter does not want to move.


Jesus, this was painful to read. I can only imagine what kind of company finds you desirable with a complete lack of understanding of basic grammar and spelling.


If this wasn't an anonymous board and I had the ability to know who you and OP really are, I would hire OP in an instant over you. There was no need for this. If you're a decent person, you'll feel some shame and apologize.


op here. This is OT, but I am dyslexic. I could re-read this 100 times and miss the errors. I am also quite good at what I do, one of the top people in the world. Unlike many people, I know my weakness and make sure everything I write is proofread by someone when in a professional context. You can chose not to hire me; frankly, I would not want to work for someone with such a big stick up their rear.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A while ago, when things were going porely at my current job (not enough hours, etc.), An opertunity came from the blue..A SETA contract was being recompeted. My company was not bidding on the SETA program. The companies looking to unseat the incumbant wanted to use my resume; I allowed both to do so (with contingent offers); in addition, one company paid me to help on the proposal. The contract was originally awarded to in the incumbant, but the award was challenged. The challenge was upheald, and now the incumbant is disqualified.

Since there were three companies bidding, and only two remain (the two that used my resume), I expect to get an offer soon. Financially, it will be a huge boon for us -- we live in a tear town house we bought in the 90's, and have 500K of equity. Selling the house will allow me to pay off every debt, and have money put aside for my daughter's college. The work is right up my ally, should be interesting, and I know the customer quite well.

On the down side, the schools are nowhere near as good. And the state has a history of underfunding education. In addition, my unstable job is not stable. But, the thought of no more winters on my scar ridden body is intriguing.
I'm
My wife will not talk about it until the job is in hand; my daughter does not want to move.


Jesus, this was painful to read. I can only imagine what kind of company finds you desirable with a complete lack of understanding of basic grammar and spelling.


If this wasn't an anonymous board and I had the ability to know who you and OP really are, I would hire OP in an instant over you. There was no need for this. If you're a decent person, you'll feel some shame and apologize.


op here. This is OT, but I am dyslexic. I could re-read this 100 times and miss the errors. I am also quite good at what I do, one of the top people in the world. Unlike many people, I know my weakness and make sure everything I write is proofread by someone when in a professional context. You can chose not to hire me; frankly, I would not want to work for someone with such a big stick up their rear.


OP, ignore DCUM's spelling police. They are all incredibly miserable people whose only "talent" is the ability to spot misspelled words on an anonymous message board. I 'm sure you're doing fine professionally. I suspect your DD will also thrive, wherever you plant her. Perhaps even better away from DCUM's toxic soil --we grow the biggest bitches here.
Anonymous
OP-go for it.

As others have said, there are good schools and bad schools everywhere. If all of the public schools in an area are truly awful, I guarantee you there will be some privates that are not overly religious.
Anonymous
Is it Jax? If it's Jax, it's not worth it. I would never live there. Tell us where in Fla - makes a big diff.
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