| About us as a country? Perhaps not specifically. But as a western democracy who would likely not exist in current form but for France? Yeah, it's okay to be rattled. |
The American Ambassador, unlike you, understands that the issue/threat is NOT just about France, but is a directed toward/involves many countries. He's not some kind of unsophisticated simpleton who doesn't understand these things, and of course he is in frequent contact with the other foreign diplomats (French too!) in this city. He didn't just arrive at this conclusion on his own, and his opinion isn't unique in the international community. You would sound like a fool in front of all of those guys (French included) if you said what you have written here tonight. We stayed in all weekend due to a heightened terror threat, though, and we're not in America OR France, but even though you don't have direct experience of the way these things are linked, it shouldn't be that difficult to understand how these things are linked, and no democratic country is really an individual entity at this point. But I don't think you are really capable of understanding this, to be honest. |
I live in DC and I think I have a better chance of dying by getting run over in a crosswalk by a bad driver than I do of being gunned down by ISIS. |
You have utterly failed to comprehend, or even note, the deeper issues and implications of the Paris attack. |
The chances of those who died in Paris were slim to none. Just sayin. |
+1 This attack, and others, are an affront against all of humanity that is part of the civilized world. You'd better believe "it's about us." |
We get it. You really, really like the ambassador. |
You really, really missed the point (of the Paris attack implications). We get it. |
It is natural for those who are living the good life in their bubble to think that their bubble is impermeable. |
be No, I understand it quite well. Why do you think it's called TERRORism? And how do you think it works as a strategy? By inflicting TERROR. Do you not understand anything about terrorist tactics? Have you never read handbooks on terrorism and insurgency? I have. How do you make it not work? By not living your life in fear of them. By not letting your life be disrupted. And again, do you understand statistics? People living in DC have a better chance of being struck by lightning than they do of being gunned down by terrorists. YES, we need to surveil them, we need to monitor them, we need to disrupt them, we need to prevent them from making any further attacks, but we DO NOT need to give in to the wishes of ISIS to have us live our lives disrupted and paralyzed in fear or to have all of our freedoms curtailed. I think I understand far more than you do about the deeper issues and implications. If you want to cower in your suburban home with your safe room, your prepper gear and your AR-15, fine, go right ahead. I on the other hand intend to go on living my life. |
| ^ 19:25 again - I will also note that I grew up overseas in the midst of a great deal of terrorism, for example attacks just blocks from where I was and a bombing at an airport just an hour after I had left it - I've seen and lived through far more terrorism up close than any of you here in the US have ever seen. So for you to try and suggest I "don't get it" is absolutely laughable. Again, if you want to cower in fear that's your prerogative, but in doing so, know that you are letting them win. |
You sound like you're an insufferable twit. Save your condescension for the office. I happen to know FAR more than foreign policy than you could ever hope to. My comment was aimed at the empty Facebook gestures and people in flyover country fretting about how they think THEY'RE being victimized. As for Brussels, if you cowered all weekend, you're a goddamned fool. The people I know were out and about like normal. Granted, the subway wasn't running, but they made good use of bikes and walking. They had an excellent report about Brasserie Merode -- I might check it out next week during my stopover to Moscow. |
| What a useless thread. |
NP. Enough with the references to flyover country already. |
I can't agree with you on this one. Flyover folks know nothing about urban reality and urban dwellers don't understand the rural folks. It's a bridge too far these days. |