Cardozo

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Anonymous wrote:You could talk to the guy who runs this: https://nwsadc.wordpress.com/ He seems very in the know about middle and high school issues.

Some Seaton, Cleveland, Garrison etc. parents have gotten a Google Group together but I don't know how to get on it.

Hello all. I'm "the guy", but I'm afraid I do not have any first-hand knowledge of Cardozo. My time is pretty well consumed by running our program (www.nwsadc.com) and participating in MacFarland/Ward 4 meetings. However, I am interested in finding out more about the school as well.

Christopher

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is way too much subsidized housing feeding to Cardozo to make it a realistic option for middle class parents. DC will not get a EOTP Wilson until it economically gerrymanders feeder patterns and creates a MS/HS pattern EOTP that is less than 30-40% FARMs. Starry eyed pre-K parents will quickly learn that no amount of optimism can overcome the realities of high poverty schools.

I am not starry eyed, but I don't think that high FARMs rates necessarily means a school is destined to fail. Look at Thomson, Tubman, Marie Reed, and Cleveland (all 99% FARMs) and SWWFS (49% FARMs). All of these schools are listed as Reward or Rising, and all of them feed to Cardozo. If these trends continue, I don't think it's impossible that Cardozo would be an acceptable option in 9-10 years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is way too much subsidized housing feeding to Cardozo to make it a realistic option for middle class parents. DC will not get a EOTP Wilson until it economically gerrymanders feeder patterns and creates a MS/HS pattern EOTP that is less than 30-40% FARMs. Starry eyed pre-K parents will quickly learn that no amount of optimism can overcome the realities of high poverty schools.

I am not starry eyed, but I don't think that high FARMs rates necessarily means a school is destined to fail. Look at Thomson, Tubman, Marie Reed, and Cleveland (all 99% FARMs) and SWWFS (49% FARMs). All of these schools are listed as Reward or Rising, and all of them feed to Cardozo. If these trends continue, I don't think it's impossible that Cardozo would be an acceptable option in 9-10 years.

I agree with you. One word of caution about that metric. That is based on 2012 data, so it is quite outdated.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is way too much subsidized housing feeding to Cardozo to make it a realistic option for middle class parents. DC will not get a EOTP Wilson until it economically gerrymanders feeder patterns and creates a MS/HS pattern EOTP that is less than 30-40% FARMs. Starry eyed pre-K parents will quickly learn that no amount of optimism can overcome the realities of high poverty schools.

I am not starry eyed, but I don't think that high FARMs rates necessarily means a school is destined to fail. Look at Thomson, Tubman, Marie Reed, and Cleveland (all 99% FARMs) and SWWFS (49% FARMs). All of these schools are listed as Reward or Rising, and all of them feed to Cardozo. If these trends continue, I don't think it's impossible that Cardozo would be an acceptable option in 9-10 years.

I agree with you. One word of caution about that metric. That is based on 2012 data, so it is quite outdated.

Do you mean that the FARMs rates may actually be lower? They do seem very high. I can't say I know anyone with kids at most of those schools, but imagine that not everyone is poor, giiven the changing neighborhoods.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is way too much subsidized housing feeding to Cardozo to make it a realistic option for middle class parents. DC will not get a EOTP Wilson until it economically gerrymanders feeder patterns and creates a MS/HS pattern EOTP that is less than 30-40% FARMs. Starry eyed pre-K parents will quickly learn that no amount of optimism can overcome the realities of high poverty schools.

I am not starry eyed, but I don't think that high FARMs rates necessarily means a school is destined to fail. Look at Thomson, Tubman, Marie Reed, and Cleveland (all 99% FARMs) and SWWFS (49% FARMs). All of these schools are listed as Reward or Rising, and all of them feed to Cardozo. If these trends continue, I don't think it's impossible that Cardozo would be an acceptable option in 9-10 years.

I agree with you. One word of caution about that metric. That is based on 2012 data, so it is quite outdated.

Do you mean that the FARMs rates may actually be lower? They do seem very high. I can't say I know anyone with kids at most of those schools, but imagine that not everyone is poor, giiven the changing neighborhoods.

If the FARMs rate is above a certain level (I think 40%) the school has the option of giving everyone free lunch without making them apply for it, and it gets listed at 99%. http://frac.org/federal-foodnutrition-programs/national-school-lunch-program/community-eligibility/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is way too much subsidized housing feeding to Cardozo to make it a realistic option for middle class parents. DC will not get a EOTP Wilson until it economically gerrymanders feeder patterns and creates a MS/HS pattern EOTP that is less than 30-40% FARMs. Starry eyed pre-K parents will quickly learn that no amount of optimism can overcome the realities of high poverty schools.

I am not starry eyed, but I don't think that high FARMs rates necessarily means a school is destined to fail. Look at Thomson, Tubman, Marie Reed, and Cleveland (all 99% FARMs) and SWWFS (49% FARMs). All of these schools are listed as Reward or Rising, and all of them feed to Cardozo. If these trends continue, I don't think it's impossible that Cardozo would be an acceptable option in 9-10 years.

I agree with you. One word of caution about that metric. That is based on 2012 data, so it is quite outdated.

Do you mean that the FARMs rates may actually be lower? They do seem very high. I can't say I know anyone with kids at most of those schools, but imagine that not everyone is poor, giiven the changing neighborhoods.

I was actually referring to the categories of Reward, Rising, Focus. If you look on the DCPS web-site, it says that the categories are based on data from 2012.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is way too much subsidized housing feeding to Cardozo to make it a realistic option for middle class parents. DC will not get a EOTP Wilson until it economically gerrymanders feeder patterns and creates a MS/HS pattern EOTP that is less than 30-40% FARMs. Starry eyed pre-K parents will quickly learn that no amount of optimism can overcome the realities of high poverty schools.

I am not starry eyed, but I don't think that high FARMs rates necessarily means a school is destined to fail. Look at Thomson, Tubman, Marie Reed, and Cleveland (all 99% FARMs) and SWWFS (49% FARMs). All of these schools are listed as Reward or Rising, and all of them feed to Cardozo. If these trends continue, I don't think it's impossible that Cardozo would be an acceptable option in 9-10 years.

I agree with you. One word of caution about that metric. That is based on 2012 data, so it is quite outdated.

Do you mean that the FARMs rates may actually be lower? They do seem very high. I can't say I know anyone with kids at most of those schools, but imagine that not everyone is poor, giiven the changing neighborhoods.

I was actually referring to the categories of Reward, Rising, Focus. If you look on the DCPS web-site, it says that the categories are based on data from 2012.

I just looked at the 2014 DC CAS results, and the overall proficiency scores were: Thomson (70), Cleveland (69), Seaton (64), Marie Reed (60), SWWFS (58), Tubman (52). Those scores are comparable with Inspired Teaching (at just under 67) and EL Haynes Kansas Ave (at about 63). It will be interesting to see the PARCC scores for these schools.

[Anonymous]

I think everyone is curious to see any parcc scores from anywhere in DC