Picture day this week? Which package are you ordering?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Please. PP is purchasing a print. She's not reselling copies. It's no different from ordering the digital download. These are high volume, low quality assembly-line operations that charge $30 for a class photo.

No what PP is suggesting is illegal. The photographer will give release when they sell the CD (which is why it's always higher). Imagine if everyone cheated like you suggest and only ordered one 8x10 and made copies. I hope you don't teach your kid those morals.

NP here (and an IP lawyer and not a cheater): if everyone cheated maybe finally schools would go back and do like when I was younger, just one class photograph at a very reasonable price (something like $8-$10), taken with little disruption to the school day (and usually done at the end of the year when we were not doing much in class anyway). I find outrageous that private companies have access to public schools and disrupt the school day to take photographs of every single kid in each class in addition to the class photo, and then offer packages that start at tens of dollars. Parents who want personal photographs of their kids to give to relatives and friends can take them to a photographer.

So you are an attorney and you're advocating breaking the law? Wonder where attorneys get their reputation?
Fwiw when I was young there were packages for individual pics as well as class photo both in fall and again in spring. I even had yearbook in elementary using fall photos. I was born in 1981.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I order the image on cd, no prints.

Yup. I preview the package and if I like them, I order the CD, no prints.

The first year, we ordered prints and sent them out to the grandparents, aunts/uncles, etc. But some prefer to get the photos emailed, and I now make photo books at the end of each year for the grandparents of good photos from the year. They prefer to have the photos uploaded to their iPads (I do this every time we see them) and then have the books to take around to show off the grandkids. So we don't bother with prints anymore. I can do a lot more with the soft copy on CD than I can with just a few hardcopies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please. PP is purchasing a print. She's not reselling copies. It's no different from ordering the digital download. These are high volume, low quality assembly-line operations that charge $30 for a class photo.

No what PP is suggesting is illegal. The photographer will give release when they sell the CD (which is why it's always higher). Imagine if everyone cheated like you suggest and only ordered one 8x10 and made copies. I hope you don't teach your kid those morals.

So is it OK for 1 parent to buy the class picture and make copies for everyone in the class?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please. PP is purchasing a print. She's not reselling copies. It's no different from ordering the digital download. These are high volume, low quality assembly-line operations that charge $30 for a class photo.

No what PP is suggesting is illegal. The photographer will give release when they sell the CD (which is why it's always higher). Imagine if everyone cheated like you suggest and only ordered one 8x10 and made copies. I hope you don't teach your kid those morals.

So is it OK for 1 parent to buy the class picture and make copies for everyone in the class?

No! Not at all!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please. PP is purchasing a print. She's not reselling copies. It's no different from ordering the digital download. These are high volume, low quality assembly-line operations that charge $30 for a class photo.

No what PP is suggesting is illegal. The photographer will give release when they sell the CD (which is why it's always higher). Imagine if everyone cheated like you suggest and only ordered one 8x10 and made copies. I hope you don't teach your kid those morals.

NP here (and an IP lawyer and not a cheater): if everyone cheated maybe finally schools would go back and do like when I was younger, just one class photograph at a very reasonable price (something like $8-$10), taken with little disruption to the school day (and usually done at the end of the year when we were not doing much in class anyway). I find outrageous that private companies have access to public schools and disrupt the school day to take photographs of every single kid in each class in addition to the class photo, and then offer packages that start at tens of dollars. Parents who want personal photographs of their kids to give to relatives and friends can take them to a photographer.

So you are an attorney and you're advocating breaking the law? Wonder where attorneys get their reputation?
Fwiw when I was young there were packages for individual pics as well as class photo both in fall and again in spring. I even had yearbook in elementary using fall photos. I was born in 1981.

Simmer down Nellie. PP wasn't advocating for violating anyone's copyright, merely offering an observation. This seems to have struck a nerve. You're not a professional photog by any chance? If so, I hope you don't do cookie cutter headshots.

[Anonymous]

Picture day is usually about raising funds for your school. Keep that in mind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please. PP is purchasing a print. She's not reselling copies. It's no different from ordering the digital download. These are high volume, low quality assembly-line operations that charge $30 for a class photo.

No what PP is suggesting is illegal. The photographer will give release when they sell the CD (which is why it's always higher). Imagine if everyone cheated like you suggest and only ordered one 8x10 and made copies. I hope you don't teach your kid those morals.

NP here (and an IP lawyer and not a cheater): if everyone cheated maybe finally schools would go back and do like when I was younger, just one class photograph at a very reasonable price (something like $8-$10), taken with little disruption to the school day (and usually done at the end of the year when we were not doing much in class anyway). I find outrageous that private companies have access to public schools and disrupt the school day to take photographs of every single kid in each class in addition to the class photo, and then offer packages that start at tens of dollars. Parents who want personal photographs of their kids to give to relatives and friends can take them to a photographer.

So you are an attorney and you're advocating breaking the law? Wonder where attorneys get their reputation?
Fwiw when I was young there were packages for individual pics as well as class photo both in fall and again in spring. I even had yearbook in elementary using fall photos. I was born in 1981.

Simmer down Nellie. PP wasn't advocating for violating anyone's copyright, merely offering an observation. This seems to have struck a nerve. You're not a professional photog by any chance? If so, I hope you don't do cookie cutter headshots.

Nope. I am a parent that buys the cheaper packages as I'm not one that shares pics beyond grandparents. I am just shocked that parents would suggest cheating in this manner.

[Anonymous]

Why do they even do class pictures anymore? I get doing it decades ago but now everyone has a 1000 photos on their phones of their kids. Most school photos are horrible anyhow. calling it "immoral" is a bit of a stretch. Quite frankly these school photographers are probably going to be out of business in another 10 years anyhow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please. PP is purchasing a print. She's not reselling copies. It's no different from ordering the digital download. These are high volume, low quality assembly-line operations that charge $30 for a class photo.

No what PP is suggesting is illegal. The photographer will give release when they sell the CD (which is why it's always higher). Imagine if everyone cheated like you suggest and only ordered one 8x10 and made copies. I hope you don't teach your kid those morals.

So is it OK for 1 parent to buy the class picture and make copies for everyone in the class?

This is a great idea.

[Anonymous]

I don't understand what happened to the time-honored tradition of giving your friends the wallet-sized pictures. My kids bring the packet home, and those pictures just sit there. Back in my day, we got to cut them up and pass 'em out at school. However, the wallet-sized photos DO make excellent envelope stuffers for the obligatory "thank you" notes to great aunt Edna.