Which type of kids excel at TJ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Asians excel at TJ because they are smart and hard working.

Heard from a TJ mom that her kid is amazed at the quality of the Asian kids in his/her class - not in a good way. Having a reeeally hard time with math and science... The kid wonders how in the world they got in.

Outsider, non asian mom here.

That is kind of a funny statement when you look over the national merit semi finalist name.list from TJ...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Asians excel at TJ because they are smart and hard working.

Heard from a TJ mom that her kid is amazed at the quality of the Asian kids in his/her class - not in a good way. Having a reeeally hard time with math and science... The kid wonders how in the world they got in.

Heard that fcps had record number of nmsf this year. Also heard that about 90% of the nmsf were Asians. It appears fairfax county should appreciate that Asians are maintaining the reputation of fcps as one of the top school districts in the country despite the performance of non-Asian students and maintaining high property value.

[Anonymous]

Asian parents have their students practicing the exams to get in, A LOT. Multiple guess exams do not show mastery or creativity or even ability to grasp complex ideas. But our system is lynch pinned to test results. If you want to get in then practice taking exams, over and over again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Asian parents have their students practicing the exams to get in, A LOT. Multiple guess exams do not show mastery or creativity or even ability to grasp complex ideas. But our system is lynch pinned to test results. If you want to get in then practice taking exams, over and over again.

TJ admissions use secret sauce "holistic admissions" that they refuse to disclose to the public with heavy emphasis on SIS (shorter essays) and 1 longer essay for the final admissions decisions so the test results and grades are not as important compared to these factors. Some believe this is further attempt to limit Asians and increase URMs which fairfax county has been trying for many years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Asian parents have their students practicing the exams to get in, A LOT. Multiple guess exams do not show mastery or creativity or even ability to grasp complex ideas. But our system is lynch pinned to test results. If you want to get in then practice taking exams, over and over again.

TJ admissions use secret sauce "holistic admissions" that they refuse to disclose to the public with heavy emphasis on SIS (shorter essays) and 1 longer essay for the final admissions decisions so the test results and grades are not as important compared to these factors. Some believe this is further attempt to limit Asians and increase URMs which fairfax county has been trying for many years.

Yet TJ is still 70% Asian, so even with the "secret formula" the algorithm must weight test scores higher than anything else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Asians excel at TJ because they are smart and hard working.

Heard from a TJ mom that her kid is amazed at the quality of the Asian kids in his/her class - not in a good way. Having a reeeally hard time with math and science... The kid wonders how in the world they got in.

Outsider, non asian mom here.

That is kind of a funny statement when you look over the national merit semi finalist name.list from TJ...

There are no Asians of average intelligence, is that what you are saying?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Asian parents have their students practicing the exams to get in, A LOT. Multiple guess exams do not show mastery or creativity or even ability to grasp complex ideas. But our system is lynch pinned to test results. If you want to get in then practice taking exams, over and over again.

TJ admissions use secret sauce "holistic admissions" that they refuse to disclose to the public with heavy emphasis on SIS (shorter essays) and 1 longer essay for the final admissions decisions so the test results and grades are not as important compared to these factors. Some believe this is further attempt to limit Asians and increase URMs which fairfax county has been trying for many years.

Yet TJ is still 70% Asian, so even with the "secret formula" the algorithm must weight test scores higher than anything else.

Tell that to the many applicants with perfect GPA and almost perfect test scores with excellent STEM activities who are denied admission to TJ each year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Asians excel at TJ because they are smart and hard working.

Heard from a TJ mom that her kid is amazed at the quality of the Asian kids in his/her class - not in a good way. Having a reeeally hard time with math and science... The kid wonders how in the world they got in.

Outsider, non asian mom here.

That is kind of a funny statement when you look over the national merit semi finalist name.list from TJ...

There are no Asians of average intelligence, is that what you are saying?

That's what you are saying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Asian parents have their students practicing the exams to get in, A LOT. Multiple guess exams do not show mastery or creativity or even ability to grasp complex ideas. But our system is lynch pinned to test results. If you want to get in then practice taking exams, over and over again.

TJ admissions use secret sauce "holistic admissions" that they refuse to disclose to the public with heavy emphasis on SIS (shorter essays) and 1 longer essay for the final admissions decisions so the test results and grades are not as important compared to these factors. Some believe this is further attempt to limit Asians and increase URMs which fairfax county has been trying for many years.

Yet TJ is still 70% Asian, so even with the "secret formula" the algorithm must weight test scores higher than anything else.

Tell that to the many applicants with perfect GPA and almost perfect test scores with excellent STEM activities who are denied admission to TJ each year.

I'll bet these applicants did not get their essays written for them by a tutor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Asian parents have their students practicing the exams to get in, A LOT. Multiple guess exams do not show mastery or creativity or even ability to grasp complex ideas. But our system is lynch pinned to test results. If you want to get in then practice taking exams, over and over again.

TJ admissions use secret sauce "holistic admissions" that they refuse to disclose to the public with heavy emphasis on SIS (shorter essays) and 1 longer essay for the final admissions decisions so the test results and grades are not as important compared to these factors. Some believe this is further attempt to limit Asians and increase URMs which fairfax county has been trying for many years.

Yet TJ is still 70% Asian, so even with the "secret formula" the algorithm must weight test scores higher than anything else.

Tell that to the many applicants with perfect GPA and almost perfect test scores with excellent STEM activities who are denied admission to TJ each year.

I'll bet these applicants did not get their essays written for them by a tutor.

Now you are changing your tune so all of sudden the "essays" are also important and it's not just "test scores"?

By the way, "essay/SIS" have been written in a "controlled setting" for several years now (essay always) except for 1 year when the computers didn't work properly. You think all the Asians who were admitted had their essays written for them by a tutor? Maybe you can tell us how they managed that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: You think all the Asians who were admitted had their essays written for them by a tutor? Maybe you can tell us how they managed that?

Easy. Memorize the essay written by whoever and type it in the "controlled setting". Hell, you don't even need to know English to do that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: You think all the Asians who were admitted had their essays written for them by a tutor? Maybe you can tell us how they managed that?

Easy. Memorize the essay written by whoever and type it in the "controlled setting". Hell, you don't even need to know English to do that.

If they knew what the prompt(s) is prior to the essay/SIS since they change each year. I wonder how they would know that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: You think all the Asians who were admitted had their essays written for them by a tutor? Maybe you can tell us how they managed that?

Easy. Memorize the essay written by whoever and type it in the "controlled setting". Hell, you don't even need to know English to do that.

If they knew what the prompt(s) is prior to the essay/SIS since they change each year. I wonder how they would know that.

Well, the last few years they really haven't changed all that much. They may change the wording slightly, but the subject is similar enough that one could learn and practice writing essays ahead of time that would fit the questions with minor changes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: You think all the Asians who were admitted had their essays written for them by a tutor? Maybe you can tell us how they managed that?

Easy. Memorize the essay written by whoever and type it in the "controlled setting". Hell, you don't even need to know English to do that.

That's some first rate xenophobia. Most impressive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: You think all the Asians who were admitted had their essays written for them by a tutor? Maybe you can tell us how they managed that?

Easy. Memorize the essay written by whoever and type it in the "controlled setting". Hell, you don't even need to know English to do that.

If they knew what the prompt(s) is prior to the essay/SIS since they change each year. I wonder how they would know that.

Well, the last few years they really haven't changed all that much. They may change the wording slightly, but the subject is similar enough that one could learn and practice writing essays ahead of time that would fit the questions with minor changes.

But they do change the questions enough so that just memorizing particular answers to particular questions and regurgitating them without responding to the applicable questions will be immediately noticeable since the TJ admissions office staff and the admissions readers are not idiots.

Maybe that is what you tell your kids to do but that is not a way to gain admission to TJ.