Could I redo a 12x11 50's era kitchen

Anonymous
Yes. But a contactor will be cheaper than Lowes or HD, believe it or not.
Anonymous
Also, a lot of the wiring will be outdated in a 1950s kitchen. Even my 1998 house had wiring that needed updating to make it to code. Lots of my outlets didn't have a ground wire (the island outlets) and my double oven needed different wiring. The copper alone for the double oven wiring was like $400. Lots of codes have changed since the 1950s.
Anonymous
As someone else noted, Ikea skipped their usual summer sale this year because so much of the new kitchen stuff was backordered. They usually have a spring, summer and fall sale. I'm hoping they still have their fall sale this year, which is generally October November.

Also - little known fact about Ikea: If you get an Ikea Family Card and associate your kitchen purchase with it (i.e. when you pay for your kitchen, you plug in the family card number), there is a 90 day price match - which includes kitchen cabinets and even the outsourced countertops. I bought a kitchen a couple months ago and confirmed with customer service that this is not a rumor. So you buy your kitchen today, and assume that they get back on the 3-times-a-year two-month long annual sales, and you are virtually guaranteed to be able to get the "sale price" even if the sale is not ongoing.
Anonymous
OP here, I have grounded outlets etc but might move some electric boxes and the little water supply to the fridge. Hopefully it won't be a nightmare. If I want the fancy lazy susan inserts, to ma?ximize my space, will that add more than another 2 or 3K?

Also, has anyone here had an Ikea kitchen for more than 5 years? My book-cases are ok, but the chest of drawers did't last long
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here, I have grounded outlets etc but might move some electric boxes and the little water supply to the fridge. Hopefully it won't be a nightmare. If I want the fancy lazy susan inserts, to ma?ximize my space, will that add more than another 2 or 3K?

Also, has anyone here had an Ikea kitchen for more than 5 years? My book-cases are ok, but the chest of drawers did't last long


So long as you keep your reno simple, I don't see why you can't stay on budget. Moving a few electrical boxes will be much less than $1000. My bet is that your whole electrical bill could be less than $1000 - including that labor, labor to install lighting, replace the switches, and supplies/materials (like new overhead lights). My understanding is that the fridge water isn't "plumbing" so much as it's a flexible small copper pipe. I don't think it even needs to go behind drywall - so should not be expensive to do that.

We've had several ikea kitchens and they've always held up fine. I'll acknowledge that my mother's $80k cabinets probably have aged better than my $5000 ikea cabs (for a similar size space). But my ikea cabinets have aged considerably better than my several friends who were adamant to not use Ikea because they thought it was "cheap", and went to HD and bought the next price point up from ikea. Those HD cabinets have not aged well - paint chipping and peeling within a month, plywood doors that look like plywood.... The ikea cabinets are a whole different beast than Ikea's furniture line. Must better quality - I think Ikea has really vested a lot of R&D into making them exceptional quality for their price point. Just go to the store and check them out.

Also - the amazing beauty about ikea cabs is that all the inserts are included in the price. Lazy susans and everything. It is unbelievable what you get for the Ikea price point. For another point of comparison, we were doing a white high gloss kitchen and nervous whether ikea would be too cheap. We weren't going to do the $80k high end Italian kitchen, but we did look at midrange Porcelanosa. They quoted us $35k for HALF the cabinets that we got at ikea -- and inserts were another $9000 on top of that. Remember - our whole ikea bill, for twice as many cabinets and inserts was $5000. And porcelanosa white lacquer looked and felt identical to ikea, and had pretty identical hardware (ikea uses blum hardware - exact same pieces as the high end euro cabinets - my mom has literally the exact same hinges and drawer pulls as mine). The only difference was that Porcelanosa doors were wrapped in lacquer, while ikea wrapped onto the sides but not the back. The back has melamine. So porcelanosa is slightly better there, but not to justify $70k more. If I have any problems with my ikea door front getting water damage under the sink, i'll buy a new cabinet front for $150.



Anonymous
We did this. Bought new refrigerator, new stove, new microwave. Granite countertops from a wholesaler recommended by our contractor. Tile flooring. New cabinets. Rerouting a couple of plumbing things. Put in better lighting.

Total cost was around $15,000, including labor. Took about 2 weeks.
Anonymous
For a small kitchen, you might have trouble making the most efficient use of your space with off the shelf cabinets. Take a look at Barker Cabinets. We used them in our 40s kitchen and it turned out really well. You can customize everything you will just need to have them assembled prior to installation. We expanded our kitchen, added a pantry and island, and still spent less than 8,000 on cabinets so I am assuming you can do much better on price there.

HH Gregg and Sears have big sales on appliances this time of year, so you can get some really good deals there too. It is a lot of work, but so worth it! Good luck!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:For a small kitchen, you might have trouble making the most efficient use of your space with off the shelf cabinets. Take a look at Barker Cabinets. We used them in our 40s kitchen and it turned out really well. You can customize everything you will just need to have them assembled prior to installation. We expanded our kitchen, added a pantry and island, and still spent less than 8,000 on cabinets so I am assuming you can do much better on price there.

HH Gregg and Sears have big sales on appliances this time of year, so you can get some really good deals there too. It is a lot of work, but so worth it! Good luck!


I should also note that the $8,000 number included soft close doors and pull out drawers inside each lower cabinet and pantry. I think the cabinet cost alone without the pull outs was closer to $5,000.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:As someone else noted, Ikea skipped their usual summer sale this year because so much of the new kitchen stuff was backordered. They usually have a spring, summer and fall sale. I'm hoping they still have their fall sale this year, which is generally October November.

Also - little known fact about Ikea: If you get an Ikea Family Card and associate your kitchen purchase with it (i.e. when you pay for your kitchen, you plug in the family card number), there is a 90 day price match - which includes kitchen cabinets and even the outsourced countertops. I bought a kitchen a couple months ago and confirmed with customer service that this is not a rumor. So you buy your kitchen today, and assume that they get back on the 3-times-a-year two-month long annual sales, and you are virtually guaranteed to be able to get the "sale price" even if the sale is not ongoing.


IKEA has stated that there will be no kitchen sales this year. Your earliest hope is next spring. However, there are plenty of quality RTA cabinet manufacturers that actually cost less than ikea.
Anonymous
We are I the process of redoing our 1950s kitchen in a house we just bought. We did encounter asbestos floor tile under a wide variety of other flooring that had been placed over it over the years. There were asbestos tiles in under the appliances, but the original vinyl flooring in the rest of the kitchen was negative for asbestos.
We also discovered ungrounded outlets behind cabinets, a plug for the stove that was not sufficient for the current stove, a light fixture that was slowly burning up the wire and likely weeks away from causing a major house fire, and a heating duct that had simply been floored over and has apparently been heating/cooling the hardwood for years. It's been a string of surprises.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Nice ikea for that or less on their kitchen sale (with quartz counters). This assuming you are not moving a lot if plumbing and electric.

7k for counters and cabinets from ikea
4 k appliances
500 backsplash tile
1500 flooring
1k light fixtures, hardware, faucet.

The rest is labor


Just got an estimate for labor on a similar size ikea kitchen. about $7k.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nice ikea for that or less on their kitchen sale (with quartz counters). This assuming you are not moving a lot if plumbing and electric.

7k for counters and cabinets from ikea
4 k appliances
500 backsplash tile
1500 flooring
1k light fixtures, hardware, faucet.

The rest is labor


Just got an estimate for labor on a similar size ikea kitchen. about $7k.
OP here, is that an Ikea contractor?
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