Are special ed kids grouped into the same class?

[Anonymous]

Yes, grouping does occur in our school and can be a great service for all children since a second teacher is often in the classroom helping the designated students! That leaves more time for the general teacher to focus on the other students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP again. What is NT and LD?

NT = neuro-typical, meaning doesn't have a LD = learning disability

push in services just mean the speech therapist (ST), occupational therapist (OT), special ed teacher, reading specialist, etc. comes into the classroom to help a child learn vs. the kid going to OT, ST, or a one-on-one outside the class.

[Anonymous]

I'm a HS teacher and co-teach one class with a special ed. teacher. There is an ESOL teacher that comes into another one of my classes. In both of these classes the majority of students are "general ed" and do not have special needs. They all benefit from two teachers in the room. We both help everyone.

[Anonymous]

Yes, I've seen what PP described in our ES. It benefits everyone.

[Anonymous]

Hmm. My daughter has an IEP but is not LD. She was grouped with other special needs kids last year. I do not believe it benefited her. My guess is that other kids had more severe issues and/or behavioral issues which was a distraction for her.

[Anonymous]

Schools can actually get in a lot of trouble for grouping children with IEPs together in a class. It is a very bad sign of a backwards school system if this happens. It is not ok and it should not happen.

If you are bothered by your child being in the same class as children with disabilities, move to a private school. Federal laws say that my kid is equal to yours and deserves the same education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I've seen what PP described in our ES. It benefits everyone.

No, no it doesn't but it makes the nt parents happy. Do you think the kids with lds have cooties?. My dc with lds became friends with a girl in 2nd grade who mother was constantly sharing her concerns that my son and the other ld kid in the class hurt her child's progress. My ld kid was her dc's math teacher for all of 2nd grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Schools can actually get in a lot of trouble for grouping children with IEPs together in a class. It is a very bad sign of a backwards school system if this happens. It is not ok and it should not happen.

If you are bothered by your child being in the same class as children with disabilities, move to a private school. Federal laws say that my kid is equal to yours and deserves the same education.

Well our school has been doing it forever and nothing has happened yet. Might want to check your source.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Schools can actually get in a lot of trouble for grouping children with IEPs together in a class. It is a very bad sign of a backwards school system if this happens. It is not ok and it should not happen.

If you are bothered by your child being in the same class as children with disabilities, move to a private school. Federal laws say that my kid is equal to yours and deserves the same education.

Well our school has been doing it forever and nothing has happened yet. Might want to check your source.

They could be in violation of Least Restrictive Environment. It depends on the mix and how they go about it. It makes no sense to group children with unrelated special needs into the same class. Plus, just because nothing has happened yet, does not mean what they are doing is in compliance with the Law. I have had a child with an IEP for over ten years and every year there was at least one thing that was violating IDEA and FAPE. Filling a lawsuit takes quite a few resources -time money and energy- at a time where parents need to spend that time, talent and treasure on the needs of their children. Most parents try to get as much as they can and supplement the rest (or just live with it). Schools count on that.

[Anonymous]

Our school seems to put many of the kids with IEPs with the most experienced classroom teacher or the teacher with sped training, and then push in extra support. I thought it was a legitimate approach, since all the kids in that class benefit from an extra adult in the room, and kids with more needs get the teacher with the most experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I've seen what PP described in our ES. It benefits everyone.

Sometimes, but not always. Our school had one classroom with a full-time aid and they received a resource teacher. The kids in that class that needed enrichment (from the GT teacher) didn't receive it b/c the resource teacher was supposed to fill that role. That didn't happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Schools can actually get in a lot of trouble for grouping children with IEPs together in a class. It is a very bad sign of a backwards school system if this happens. It is not ok and it should not happen.

If you are bothered by your child being in the same class as children with disabilities, move to a private school. Federal laws say that my kid is equal to yours and deserves the same education.

Well our school has been doing it forever and nothing has happened yet. Might want to check your source.

They could be in violation of Least Restrictive Environment. It depends on the mix and how they go about it. It makes no sense to group children with unrelated special needs into the same class. Plus, just because nothing has happened yet, does not mean what they are doing is in compliance with the Law. I have had a child with an IEP for over ten years and every year there was at least one thing that was violating IDEA and FAPE. Filling a lawsuit takes quite a few resources -time money and energy- at a time where parents need to spend that time, talent and treasure on the needs of their children. Most parents try to get as much as they can and supplement the rest (or just live with it). Schools count on that.

You are right pp. Due process hearings are how people "sue" the school system and they are expensive and a painful process. There is another option. You can file complaints against the school system. It isn't hard to file a complaint and it can bring scrutiny to the school system and force them to create a corrective action plan that will apply to the whole school system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Schools can actually get in a lot of trouble for grouping children with IEPs together in a class. It is a very bad sign of a backwards school system if this happens. It is not ok and it should not happen.

If you are bothered by your child being in the same class as children with disabilities, move to a private school. Federal laws say that my kid is equal to yours and deserves the same education.

Well our school has been doing it forever and nothing has happened yet. Might want to check your source.

What county are you in? I'd love to know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our school seems to put many of the kids with IEPs with the most experienced classroom teacher or the teacher with sped training, and then push in extra support. I thought it was a legitimate approach, since all the kids in that class benefit from an extra adult in the room, and kids with more needs get the teacher with the most experience.

This is how it is in our class and it works great. The extra hands allow everyone's needs to be met from Gifted to kids with IEPs. Kids with more severe issues are in separate classrooms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our school seems to put many of the kids with IEPs with the most experienced classroom teacher or the teacher with sped training, and then push in extra support. I thought it was a legitimate approach, since all the kids in that class benefit from an extra adult in the room, and kids with more needs get the teacher with the most experience.

This is how it is in our class and it works great. The extra hands allow everyone's needs to be met from Gifted to kids with IEPs. Kids with more severe issues are in separate classrooms.

That is the case in our school as well (we're in FCPS). SPED teachers help everyone, they don't discriminate against NT kids.