Is it ever permissible to wish death on people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In the now locked PP thread, a poster wished another poster would quote unquote die in a fire.

Is that wish ever acceptable?

I don't think it is. I think that no matter how deeply disagreements run, telling another human they should die in a fire is unacceptable.

Thoughts?

Get over it.

[Anonymous]

I wish death on people who hurt kids or murder innocents.

I know it's wrong, but when people abuse animals I wish something bad- sometimes death- would happen to them.

I get very heated in debate, but remember that other people have a right to think differently.

Violent death is so terrible, wishing it on other humans is just really terrible.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Its fine to think it, but verbalizing it takes it to a different level.

Even thoughts have power/vibrations/whatever you want to call it. So I disagree.

I don't think it is ever okay, no matter what.

So you want thought control?

Yes. I think society would benefit if people controlled their own thoughts.

There are no magical words. Wishing someone would die indicates that you are not a very nice person (or you've been pushed beyond some limit). But that can't actually make the person die, unless you follow up with wish with a call to the local hit man.

Is it ever "permissible," though? Since there is no one to give permission about what you are thinking and saying, other than you, I would say yes. If you think it's ok. Which is another way of saying: whose permission are you looking for here?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Its fine to think it, but verbalizing it takes it to a different level.

Even thoughts have power/vibrations/whatever you want to call it. So I disagree.

I don't think it is ever okay, no matter what.

So you want thought control?

Yes. I think society would benefit if people controlled their own thoughts.

There are no magical words. Wishing someone would die indicates that you are not a very nice person (or you've been pushed beyond some limit). But that can't actually make the person die, unless you follow up with wish with a call to the local hit man.

Is it ever "permissible," though? Since there is no one to give permission about what you are thinking and saying, other than you, I would say yes. If you think it's ok. Which is another way of saying: whose permission are you looking for here?

I'd like to think I'm a nice person but right now, I am having evil wishful thinking that my ahole boss would kick the bucket. I think it falls into I've been pushed too far, because I normally don't think like that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Its fine to think it, but verbalizing it takes it to a different level.

Even thoughts have power/vibrations/whatever you want to call it. So I disagree.

I don't think it is ever okay, no matter what.

So you want thought control?

Yes. I think society would benefit if people controlled their own thoughts.

There are no magical words. Wishing someone would die indicates that you are not a very nice person (or you've been pushed beyond some limit). But that can't actually make the person die, unless you follow up with wish with a call to the local hit man.

Is it ever "permissible," though? Since there is no one to give permission about what you are thinking and saying, other than you, I would say yes. If you think it's ok. Which is another way of saying: whose permission are you looking for here?

That's a good point.

I would ask you if in the political realm, when debating any subject, are opinions and ideas worth more than the life of those with different opinions, and is saying you hope others die a bridge too far.

I am pretty conservative, and some of the nicest people I have met are hippies.

Whenever I classify people, I try to separate their political thoughts from their personhood.

I know politics doesn't equal an entire human.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Its fine to think it, but verbalizing it takes it to a different level.

Even thoughts have power/vibrations/whatever you want to call it. So I disagree.

I don't think it is ever okay, no matter what.

So you want thought control?

Yes. I think society would benefit if people controlled their own thoughts.

There are no magical words. Wishing someone would die indicates that you are not a very nice person (or you've been pushed beyond some limit). But that can't actually make the person die, unless you follow up with wish with a call to the local hit man.

Is it ever "permissible," though? Since there is no one to give permission about what you are thinking and saying, other than you, I would say yes. If you think it's ok. Which is another way of saying: whose permission are you looking for here?

I'd like to think I'm a nice person but right now, I am having evil wishful thinking that my ahole boss would kick the bucket. I think it falls into I've been pushed too far, because I normally don't think like that.

Bosses seem to be killable...you are excused.?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Its fine to think it, but verbalizing it takes it to a different level.

Even thoughts have power/vibrations/whatever you want to call it. So I disagree.

I don't think it is ever okay, no matter what.

So you want thought control?

Not PP, but I don't think hoping humans are decent is thought control.

But PP says it wrong to even *wishfully think* something bad happens. Not verbalized it. Just think "wow, I wish my a-hole boss would drop dead".

Yes, I am PP and I do think it's wrong to wish death maliciously on anyone. (I am not including those in permanent comas, nor those with late-stage cancer, etc.) Thoughts have power. It is not good to have violent thoughts about people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This reminds me of a bit from VEEP, where a reporter asks the Selina Meyers character what person she hates. She initially responds by giving some bullshit answer about how she tries not to hate anyone, because it's such a negative emotion and so draining of positive energy, blah, blah. The reporter then says "Most people just say Hitler." And she responds "Oh. Uh, can I change my answer to 'Hitler'?"

God bless DC, where a statement like this is seen as "bullshit."

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Anonymous wrote:Its fine to think it, but verbalizing it takes it to a different level.

Even thoughts have power/vibrations/whatever you want to call it. So I disagree.

I don't think it is ever okay, no matter what.

So you want thought control?

Yes. I think society would benefit if people controlled their own thoughts.

There are no magical words. Wishing someone would die indicates that you are not a very nice person (or you've been pushed beyond some limit). But that can't actually make the person die, unless you follow up with wish with a call to the local hit man.

Is it ever "permissible," though? Since there is no one to give permission about what you are thinking and saying, other than you, I would say yes. If you think it's ok. Which is another way of saying: whose permission are you looking for here?

It's not about whether you can make a person die with your thoughts: it's that you are harboring a hostile, violent thought. Replace the thought with a compassionate thought, or redirect your attention - nothing good comes from harboring ill will.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This reminds me of a bit from VEEP, where a reporter asks the Selina Meyers character what person she hates. She initially responds by giving some bullshit answer about how she tries not to hate anyone, because it's such a negative emotion and so draining of positive energy, blah, blah. The reporter then says "Most people just say Hitler." And she responds "Oh. Uh, can I change my answer to 'Hitler'?"

God bless DC, where a statement like this is seen as "bullshit."

It is bullshit. Most people don't go around trying to not hate asshats you encounter in life. They try not to act on that emotion, or more often, not show outward signs of your distaste for that individual. Very few people try to change such basic emotions. Most of those live in monasteries or convents and it's their vocation.

[Anonymous]

Mindfulness, control of our emotions and our selves, and self determination are what make us humans...

[Anonymous]

I do wish ISIS terrorists and child rapists and murderers dead.

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No. It is sick and unhealthy to harbor and cultivate that kind of malice and ill will and the person who stews in that kind of bitter juice wastes their life and will regret they didn't live to a higher better purpose than ill wishing their neighbor.

Also it suggests they would rather somebody die than even entertain the different opinion of that hated other, which is pretty brittle and fragile.

Since you asked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In the now locked PP thread, a poster wished another poster would quote unquote die in a fire.

Is that wish ever acceptable?

I don't think it is. I think that no matter how deeply disagreements run, telling another human they should die in a fire is unacceptable.

Thoughts?

No. Because it might come back on you or someone you love. It is, however, fine to say, "I wish (name) all the things you so richly deserve and may they come soon and on spades."

[Anonymous]

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I do wish ISIS terrorists and child rapists and murderers dead.

Agreed. I definitely wish death on these people. Now those who have different opinions, even political opinions that try to curb my rights? No. Of course not. I wish them clarity.